Map 4 AQ silver surfer ideas?

TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,683 ★★★★★
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So I’m AQ I’ve been able to take out minibosses before, I’ve been doing map 2/3 for ages and have recently joined an alliance in which I do map 4. I’ve previously been able to solo 2 Corvus minis so I know that it’s not a situation of I’m not good enough for map 4.

However this silver surfer miniboss has been wrecking me over the past 2 days. I’ve gone for the nullify everything BWCV approach and I’ve today gone for the if you can’t beat em join em approach and ran Silver Surfer to try and out-buff him sort of. Neither have worked.

I’m not asking for a nerf or change, it’s doable and I’m fine with it. But does anyone have any suggestions? I’m thinking Dr Doom, anyone else?

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  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 596 ★★★
    Power control champs work well for him. Magik, Doom, Voodoo. Sym Supreme would do work on him I imagine. I also use BWCV and just stay on poison curse. Chain special 2’s to keep his power reasonable, and then switch to hellfire to finish him. AA works pretty well for me as well.
  • FeroX_the_fat_heringFeroX_the_fat_hering Member Posts: 311 ★★
    He took me by surprise too, I’m using void now and that goes really well

    I think you want energy resistant champs if nullifying doesn’t work for you, cap iw would be perfect. I don’t have any experience with doom, but since he is a mystic, he would probably be good

    Maybe duel silver surfer a couple of times, see what champion handles him the best for you
  • NR174NR174 Member Posts: 7 ★
    Sym supreme play sensibly to get to sp3 and then it’s game over. You may have to tank surfers sp3 but sym does that with everything up after sp3.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,985 ★★★★★
    Remove/prevent buffs -
    Dr Voodoo
    Dr Strange
    Mephisto
    Symbiote Supreme
    Dr Doom
    BWCV

    Punish buffs -
    Ronan (Awakened)

    Out-buff (to get the Power from Rich get Richer) -
    Venom (also, spam SP1 to remove his buffs)

    Power Control - various

    Of those above, I don't have most, but find Ronan effective. If I don't get to him first, then most times I see people using BWCV against him.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,674 ★★★★★
    I use voodoo with 3/4 points in MD. Bait specials until you get to SP1 and the fight usually goes smoothly from there
  • SPIDER_MANSPIDER_MAN Member Posts: 136 ★
    Venom works easy and have you read this about his strengths & weakness

    https://www.dunres.sk/mcoc/champions/silver-surfer/

  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Magrailothos said:

    Remove/prevent buffs -
    Dr Voodoo
    Dr Strange
    Mephisto
    Symbiote Supreme
    Dr Doom
    BWCV

    Punish buffs -
    Ronan (Awakened)

    Out-buff (to get the Power from Rich get Richer) -
    Venom (also, spam SP1 to remove his buffs)

    Power Control - various

    Of those above, I don't have most, but find Ronan effective. If I don't get to him first, then most times I see people using BWCV against him.

    Angela can "outbuff" as well. I've used her to solo him on a few occasions.
  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★
    I just tried doom this morning, it was a flop. The AI was so passive that I couldn't play doom right. He just sat there holding block until he was at SP3. Maybe I was unlucky. Maybe I just suck at the game. Theoretically, he should work though
  • MikeyBoi69MikeyBoi69 Member Posts: 139 ★
    I generally solo him with venom. Venom om noms his buffs and gains power because he has more buffs than the surfer so easy fight
  • SPIDER_MANSPIDER_MAN Member Posts: 136 ★
    lowlevelplayer said:

    I just tried doom this morning, it was a flop. The AI was so passive that I couldn't play doom right. He just sat there holding block until he was at SP3. Maybe I was unlucky. Maybe I just suck at the game. Theoretically, he should work though

    I think doom would help silver surfer actually increase his damage output as shock will give 0 damage and give him an ability buff

  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★
    SPIDER_MAN said:

    lowlevelplayer said:

    I just tried doom this morning, it was a flop. The AI was so passive that I couldn't play doom right. He just sat there holding block until he was at SP3. Maybe I was unlucky. Maybe I just suck at the game. Theoretically, he should work though

    I think doom would help silver surfer actually increase his damage output as shock will give 0 damage and give him an ability buff

    is that why? I'm pretty sure the incinerates would also help him then
  • SPIDER_MANSPIDER_MAN Member Posts: 136 ★
    edited June 2020
    lowlevelplayer said:

    SPIDER_MAN said:

    lowlevelplayer said:

    I just tried doom this morning, it was a flop. The AI was so passive that I couldn't play doom right. He just sat there holding block until he was at SP3. Maybe I was unlucky. Maybe I just suck at the game. Theoretically, he should work though

    I think doom would help silver surfer actually increase his damage output as shock will give 0 damage and give him an ability buff

    is that why? I'm pretty sure the incinerates would also help him then
    Yes they would
    Well I think they would but I’ve never used doom against him
    https://www.dunres.sk/mcoc/champions/silver-surfer/
  • zuffyzuffy Member Posts: 2,248 ★★★★★
    I find AA the easiest to beat him. Once neurotoxin kicks in, he goes down quick.
  • WatThaPhoWatThaPho Member Posts: 1
    Since we talking about silver surfer. We been doing level 4 map for quest. Every time we fight silver surfer and when he uses special 3, we get booted out of game. Get back in game and he’s back to full health and we lost half health. Happens every time. Does anyone have this same problem? I have reported to kabam, it’s still not fixed.
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    You should have had no problem with the BWCV approach, just use her on poison mode to maintain control over silver surfer's power.
  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★
    WatThaPho said:

    Since we talking about silver surfer. We been doing level 4 map for quest. Every time we fight silver surfer and when he uses special 3, we get booted out of game. Get back in game and he’s back to full health and we lost half health. Happens every time. Does anyone have this same problem? I have reported to kabam, it’s still not fixed.

    that doesn't happen to me. Maybe its your device
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  • EdeuinkEdeuink Member Posts: 1,263 ★★★★
    I’ve used symbiote supreme. At the start of the fight, dex and wait so that rich get richer gives you power. Drop an sp3, then do 2 sp2s, and the fight is over.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    I think you also have to balance your aggressiveness and baiting specials. If you use a power controller like magik or voodoo and need to get sp2, you have to attack to get sp2 but also bait specials. You really have to manage it really well, or else you get boomed
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,683 ★★★★★
    Championcritic said:

    You should have had no problem with the BWCV approach, just use her on poison mode to maintain control over silver surfer's power.

    He just wouldn’t throw specials and I didn’t manage to get to L2 before he got to L3 and wrecked me
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 596 ★★★
    TP33 said:

    Championcritic said:

    You should have had no problem with the BWCV approach, just use her on poison mode to maintain control over silver surfer's power.

    He just wouldn’t throw specials and I didn’t manage to get to L2 before he got to L3 and wrecked me
    Do you not run mystic dispersion?
  • TP33TP33 Member Posts: 1,683 ★★★★★
    Matty_Ice said:

    TP33 said:

    Championcritic said:

    You should have had no problem with the BWCV approach, just use her on poison mode to maintain control over silver surfer's power.

    He just wouldn’t throw specials and I didn’t manage to get to L2 before he got to L3 and wrecked me
    Do you not run mystic dispersion?
    Yeah but only 1/2 points
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 596 ★★★
    Gotcha. Running more will make her a lot better overall. Sometimes I mess up and gain too much power and push myself to L3 on accident.
  • StrStr Member Posts: 547 ★★
    He is the worst one by far. I went down to a map 4 alliance in off season from rubbing map 6/7 so i could do some act 6. I was amazed by how tough that would be for most people with limited rosters. I used my dr strange but all the other counters above are much better than him.
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  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,131 ★★★★★
    Symbiote Supreme. Get to Sp3, drop it, watch the melt.

    Dr. Zola
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