**WINTER OF WOE - BONUS OBJECTIVE POINT**
As previously announced, the team will be distributing an additional point toward milestones to anyone who completed the Absorbing Man fight in the first step of the Winter of Woe.
This point will be distributed at a later time as it requires the team to pull and analyze data.
The timeline has not been set, but work has started.
As previously announced, the team will be distributing an additional point toward milestones to anyone who completed the Absorbing Man fight in the first step of the Winter of Woe.
This point will be distributed at a later time as it requires the team to pull and analyze data.
The timeline has not been set, but work has started.
There is currently an issue where some Alliances are are unable to find a match in Alliance Wars, or are receiving Byes without getting the benefits of the Win. We will be adjusting the Season Points of the Alliances that are affected within the coming weeks, and will be working to compensate them for their missed Per War rewards as well.
Additionally, we are working to address an issue where new Members of an Alliance are unable to place Defenders for the next War after joining. We are working to address this, but it will require a future update.
Additionally, we are working to address an issue where new Members of an Alliance are unable to place Defenders for the next War after joining. We are working to address this, but it will require a future update.
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Killmonger can tank hits, SP3’s, counter the opponent, true strike, massive bleed (Useful for Do You Bleed and Thing/Invisible woman) as well as being stupidly tanky, which with attack values these days is a lifesaver.
I think you’re also underestimating a mad sig Killmonger’s attack, it’s pretty big. Admittedly, not as large as Night Thrashers but then it doesn’t require as much ramp up.
Blade I can maybe see him being better than in today’s meta. I know I certainly used Killmonger way more than Blade in 100% Act 6. I have a 6* NT but he’s unduped. So I don’t have the most experience with them admittedly, but from what I’ve seen, I would rank skill
1.AEgon
2.Fury
3. Stealthy
4. Killmonger
5. Night Thrasher
6. Blade
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great champion, but I just don’t think he’s as good as those other champs
Maxing out my dr strange. Eventually he will hit sig 200. He was ranked up for flow defence diversity for old aw map. A great map 4 counter to silver surfer. He is also fantastic at map 7... oh wait... no he's not.
I agree that Killmonger needs the set up but once he is I believe he is far and away the better counter as you can play the fight however you want from there.
Secondly, you mentioned that some specials can’t be countered normally. Well it’s a good thing that almost all evaders and autoblockers specials can be, and if you’re struggling, that’s why his counterpunch charges exist. So no, I don’t think it’s ridiculous to say he is the superior counter at all. And on a side note, Winter Soldier actually isn’t a wasted spot, I surprisingly enough ended up using him a ton in Act 6 if I brought him with Killmonger.
Next, you mentioned that his true strike is dependent on AI behaviour yet you say that his taunt is a substitute for the indestructible, despite being much more AI dependent than Killmonger’s true strike. I’d much rather have the indestructible than the taunt because the indestructible is reliant on you and not on the randomness of the AI
As for ‘underwhelming damage’ I disagree. Killmonger at a high sig throws down, even when you don’t take into account the SP3 bleed. His damage isn’t as good as NT, I won’t dispute that, but don’t underestimate it.
To me it’s fine if you prefer Night Thrasher but it’s ludicrous to me to suggest Night Thrasher is better. Understandable, but ludicrous none the less
Probably the most powered howard out there
And actually, counter strike charges will get you that true strike against 95% of champs. Trust me, I’ve tested it extensively
And I fundamentally disagree with your argument his damage is underwhelming. Is it Ghost? God no. Is it NT’s. Again, God no. But it’s not underwhelming, it’s above average. And the downtime is hardly that long. Having to take a blocked hit as well is less of an issue for KM than night thrasher as he has those charges to utilise and his innate armour and frankly ridiculous healthpool means he is taking very little damage on block.
And please, go ahead, prove that Night Thrasher could kill it quicker. No videos on YouTube, and personally I wouldn’t want to lug around a guillotine and moon knight to do something that KM can just do very effectively at his base.
As for your summary, again, I have conceded the damage. That’s fair, but I don’t think Killmonger’s is bad. You say he has unconditional true accuracy but it’s only on skateboard attacks. I call that a damn condition. One I believe is impractical, but hey, you’re the experienced one on Night Thrasher. All I can say is that it seems impractical to me and overly fiddly compared to just true strike and forget. And come on, it’s 50% DAAR. Not exactly reliable. It’s something, but against opponents like thing surely it just makes it more difficult to control his rock stacks. Immunity I’ll give you. Incinerate immunity is nice.
Again, I’m not saying NT is bad, he’s a great champ, undoubtedly, you’ve shown that in great depth because you obviously have a wealth of experience.
What I can tell you is that as someone with a 3/45 6* Killmonger, I’ll probably never rank my Night Thrasher, even if I dupe him. Because he doesn’t provide me with anything that KM can’t deal with. I believe the inverse of your statement. I believe Night Thrasher is
an excellent pull if you can awaken him. Until you pull a Killmonger
I think the bottom line is this, because otherwise we’re going to round in circles here ad infinitum. I have a lot of experience with Killmonger, I used him incredibly effectively in a lot of the fights you’ve described. I love Killmonger, He’s one of my favourite champions. I’ve never duped a Night Thrasher, so I’ve never used him all that much. Maybe if one day I do, I might end up coming back to this thread and admitting I was wrong.
You love your Night Thrasher, that much is obvious, and it doesn’t sound like you’ve had a lot of experience with Killmonger. A lot of content out there slams Killmonger. It’s only really once you actually use him do you begin to see just how versatile and valuable he is. He wouldn’t have been my first 5/65 or 2/35, as he actually was, if I didn’t believe he was considering I had other options like Corvus and Blade.
I think they both fulfil a similar role in this game, and maybe one is better than the other in specific situations. I believe Killmonger is objectively better, that’s what I’ve attempted to outline here. You obviously don’t, and I understand that. Killmonger is not a perfect champion, but neither is Night Thrasher. In the end, maybe it’s just personal preference.
And you’ve repeatedly said that it has dumbfounded you that someone would suggest Killmonger is the superior champion. Well let me tell you, I’m blown away someone would suggest Night Thrasher is better. Probably to a higher degree than you might expect.
Can’t wait for the next inevitable thread on most overrated champions...
Thanks for the debate! Been a while since I’ve had a good one on here.
Drax's so called "bleed" is honestly pathetic. Even my 3* Nick Fury with Deep wounds could do better than drax
Civil Warrior has a good kit, but is honestly so trash in terms of damage no one will use him.
Agent Venom's "BLEED" chance is horrible, 50% really? And also the stats are horrible for the bleed and incinerate. "Tenacity" sounds good on paper, but rarely triggers for your benefit any way
Iron Patriot sucks like a **** so I'm not even going to bother mentioning him in any way or form