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Human torch
Princenayarw
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Can Human torch reverse healing?
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Actually he’s very confused
Warlock: heal block
Human Torch DOES NOT reverse heal like the poster asked and not in the same vane as Warlock like i mentioned. He only reduces their regeneration rate based on his incinerates. So the opponent still heals .. just at a reduced clip. Can it be negative? Sure but the fact remains the opponent is still healing.
Now Warlock on the other hand (if awakened) does more than just heal block. He actually does reverse the process which means .. .instead of going up as healing does it then reverses and goes backward instead. He changes the function of the heal. (Torch does not).
With Warlock, the opponent no longer heals because each time they do, that process is REVERSED and they instead degen. He does this by way of his virus coupled with his signature ability. It amplifies his heal block and actually turns it into a heal reverse.
All it takes is a bit of dialog guys before you disagree or condemn someone's attempt to help which is all I was trying to do. I don't just answer questions for giggles.
warlocks virus blocks healing. I think we can all agree on that.
so when the opponent heals, they are power drained. when they are power drained, his sig degens the opponent. this is far from a heal reversal.
they are two totally different things. first, he heal blocks. Then, he deals degen damage if they attempt to heal based on his abilities and sig. that is not heal reversal
here, we see that torch reduces healing by 20% per incinerate. according to the devs, dev notes are not supposed to be gospel and may not be totally confirmed abilities or something like that, so it's best to take them with a grain of salt, but this dev note is pretty cut and dry. His incinerates reduce the healing and can make it negative, aka reverse heal.
here, we see g2099 who has a similar ability with her sp2
dancing around it doesn't make it any less a reversal of a mechanic lol. when you attempt to heal, you degenerate instead.
but hey .. no worries man ... i think the OP has his answer. if you're looking for Torch to negatively impact the healing process .. yes he does that. and so does Warlock
How did you manage to type all that and not realize you’re so wrong
WL does not heal reverse
His sig specifically says he deals damage when the opponent is power trained. So even if a node says the defender is power drain or burn immune his sig won’t work
Correlation does not equal causation genius
That’s like saying voids debuffs do damage
BUT ... lol just kidding. no further comment. we can continue in DM (if so desired) so that this thread doesn't lose its intent or become a pointless back a forth banter.
again, appreciate the real dialog dude.
The way mechanics work, function and interact is Important to clarify
Obviously he doesn’t get it and rather just spam nonsense and disagree
I applaud your patience
When players say “reverse heal” they mean reduce the opponent’s regeneration rate into the negatives. The default regeneration rate is 100%. To start to reverse healing, you need to reduce regeneration rate below 0%. So, if you apply something reduces regeneration rate by 101%, and the opponent is regenerating 100 health per tick(200 health per sec), they will take 1 damage per tick(2 damage per sec). This is what torch does, he uses incinerates to make regeneration go lower than 0%, causing the opponent to take damage from negative regeneration. Because of this human torch’s “heal reversal” damage is tied to how much the opponent is regenerating. His “heal reversal” damage will do much more damage to an opponent regenerating 1000 health per tick(2000 health per sec), than to an opponent regenerating 100 health per tick(200 health per sec).
Hopefully everyone reading this comment understood that. Let’s continue.
Warlock does not “reverse healing,” if you go by the definition that reverse healing is making regeneration rate dip below 0%. Instead, his infection passively heal blocks the opponent, preventing all healing. To describe heal block in terms I’ve been using so far, I’d say that it “locks” regeneration rate at 0%. So, regeneration effects cannot increase the opponent’s health, nor can it decrease their health. You’re probably thinking of warlock’s awakened ability as heal reversal, as it will degen the opponent when you drain their power(by having them try to heal while infected). However, this is not heal reversal for 1 reason, which is that the amount of damage done is not tied to the amount of health gained. If the opponent is trying to regenerate 1 health per tick(2 health per second), a 5/65 sig 200 warlock’s degeneration will do 862 damage over 2 seconds. If the opponent is trying to regenerate 1000 health per tick(2000 health per second), the degeneration will still do 862 damage over 2 seconds.
Summary/ TLDR
Human torch reverses healing. The amount of damage the opponent takes from having their healing reversed is tied to the amount of health that they regenerate. Warlock heal blocks the opponent, and punishes them with damage whenever they try to heal. This damage is the same no matter how much the opponent is trying to regenerate.
Hope this helps! Cheers!
Ummm, what? Dude, I’m curious as to what you think heal reversal is? Do you mind explaining to me what you think heal reversal is? Also, if ht reduces their healing by 120%, do you think that’s considered reversed healing? Just curious
2) if enemy healing is reduced by 120%, which means they are healing negatively , do you think that’s reverse healing?
That’s all
Not man enough to admit to this shame.
He now flees this thread a sham
Filled with shame