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5.3 bug
Googleplexian
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The 50% weakness debuff placed on champions that aren't the specified class in 5.3 does not cause will power to heal us however when the spectre node is on (reverses healing) it degenerates the will power gains we don't get lol.
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That's what I also noticed
Hope they give us some clarification
- Discouraging the use of the wrong champions because if you could permanently heal through willpower by bringing the wrong champion, what's the point?
- To prevent the wrong champions from potentially shrugging off the effect. Agent Venom and Kingpin does this, but only to detrimental effects. So by making it a passive effect, you will definitely be punished by bringing the wrong champion, so Kingpin and AV will not be favoured.
As for spectre, I don't think it's a passive effect, but more of a detrimental effect. It's something like Mordo's power gain: It switches on and off, but it isn't a passive ability because it isn't an ability that is always active. Same thing for Spectre: Because it switches on and off, it isn't an ability that is always active, and hence isn't a passive ability, but a detrimental effect.
This is why willpower is highly discouraged when the Spectre node is on.
As I mentioned before, Spectre is a detrimental effect and not a passive effect because it is not an effect that is always active. Because Spectre is a detrimental effect, it will therefore trigger Willpower, and since willpower heals you but Spectre reverses that heal, you will degenerate from your Willpower.
Thus, it isn't a bug. To counter it, just don't bring regen champs and take off your Willpower for the duration of the path. Spectre isn't a global node, and it only appears on 1 path on each quest of 5.3.5 and 5.3.6, so you justhave to take it off once, wipe out those paths, and place it back on.
5.3 weakness is not a debuff. The node clearly says "reduce champions attack by 50%", not "gives you a weakness debuff that reduces your attack by 50%".
The weakness icon appears just to let you know that your attack is reduced
Spectre is a debuff. It is the same debuff that is applied by Guillotine's L2. Because it is a debuff, willpower is triggered by it, but because the debuff reverses healing, you will get damaged. The weakness passive has nothing to do with how Spectre works, because as you said, it is a PASSIVE ability.
So spectre IS working as intended, and should WORK as how it is now because it makes sense. As mentioned before, it is easy to counter this node: Just take off willpower when you need to do paths with Spectre as the node, and obviously don't bring any regen champs.
In 5.3.6, I haven't looked what spectre is with.
Oh it is? I didn't actually see what node it was accompanied with, I just went straight ahead and talked about Spectre only.
Yep that is correct, the power lock 1 node inflicts a power lock when u are at 1 bar of power, and that power lock is a detrimental effect and will thus trigger willpower. I used it to my advantage back in 5.3.3 and 5.3.4, very useful for healing.
If that is the case, and Spectre is paired up with power lock, then I think it is definitely very needed to remove willpower for that path, as well as the other path in 5.3.6.
Oh and, 5.3.6's spectre is paired up with "Special attacks drain up to 100% of your power" node, so it isn't as bad as the one in 5.3.5
For what? It was already answered
Weaknees is a passive charge, not a debuff. Spectre is a debuff.
The nodes itself says which of them are or not debuffs.
It's pretty obvious just by testing and reading