Is Thronebreaker a failure?

Since the initial thronebreaker progression post it has sparked a TON of debate as to whether it was the right move. Not only that but is in part at fault for the cyber weekend debacle. They hang on to this “it was meant to require so much more” idea but....it doesn’t....

My question is simple...has the implementation of TB been a failure thus far and if so what should they do in the future to make it smoother?

Comments

unknown

This content has been removed.

unknown

This content has been removed.

unknown

This content has been removed.

TheLegend27

They should have just gone ahead with the initial requirements. We would have had much less whining.

GoddessIlias

This poll is a failure

Jaded

It’s fine. Not everyone is going to be happy.

I’m thronebreaker, my wife is cavalier. She was pretty thrilled for her options and pulls. That’s after seeing what I got.

unknown

This content has been removed.

DrZola

I think we should all let the process work itself out and quit shotgunning forums posts and polls.

The offers are what they are and no amount of pleading should change that. There are some fixable issues with titles, and I would hope the players who get a chance to talk with Kabam mention that in their comments.

In the meantime, enjoy life, eat a good meal, walk the dog, read a book.

Dr. Zola

Buttehrs

If anything, cavalier is the failure now. Considering the deals and glory and sigil updates.

OGAvenger

If anything, cavalier is the failure now. Considering the deals and glory and sigil updates.

All because Thronebreaker was rushed out to have separate deals...

OGAvenger

Its only a failure to the people complaining about the rank 3 requirement

I have 4 r3’s and the capability to have 7. So just stop man

Masterpuff

I meant to say its been fine. Please stop with these threads.

OGAvenger

I thought the question was pretty clear but I guess not...

This is not a complaint about the rank 3 requirement. I have been TB since day 1 and it has been really obvious it’s been a failure thus far to me. This is rather a question about the implementation (the roll out) of TB

Worknprogress

I would guess how someone sees it is completely dependent on what they think the purpose of having the next progression title in game even is.

AATT

It’s fine. Not everyone is going to be happy.

I’m thronebreaker, my wife is cavalier. She was pretty thrilled for her options and pulls. That’s after seeing what I got.

Nice, my wife doesn't like the game

at least she plays 4* arena once in a while ~~when I'm cleaning dishes or doing random home stuffs~~

unknown

This content has been removed.

Masterpuff

I thought the question was pretty clear but I guess not...

This is not a complaint about the rank 3 requirement. I have been TB since day 1 and it has been really obvious it’s been a failure thus far to me. This is rather a question about the implementation (the roll out) of TB

I meant threads about the topic in general. Uc was like this, they slowly implement things over time.

DrZola

My observation: there aren’t too many progression checkpoints, there are two few.

We used to have 60 Summoner levels to distinguish players—why we stopped there is something I don’t know.

Now we have only a handful of titles with any progressional relevance to cover the entirety of the community.

There is a good bit of permanent content that can distinguish the experience of accounts below the rank of TB.

The team could be proactive and explore using titles based on that content to prepare for progression checkpoints in the post-TB era.

Dr. Zola

ccrider474

Not a failure per say but implementation was. The next upgrade had to happen but it shouldn't be tied to a rank up. Explore act 6 yeah, I can see that for sure. The failure was the decrease of cav. Deals and what not should not have decreased from say 4th of July but should have been at minimum the same but Thronebreaker should have had better deals than cav. It is the automatic nature that cav become useless and in fact rolled back years in terms of deals that was wrong.

Psychoakuma

It's definitely been fine so far. The goal was to create a tier with less players (mostly endgame + a few lucky players who got the champ they needed and the t5cc from Abyss/Act 6) and it seemed to have achieved its purpose.

I agree that cav deals were lackluster to say the least, but t5cc is expected to be rare for some time as Kabam (and hopefully most of the player base) wouldn't want majority of the players to be in the top tier that was only introduced 2 months ago, in a game that's nearly six years old

OGAvenger

It's definitely been fine so far. The goal was to create a tier with less players (mostly endgame + a few lucky players who got the champ they needed and the t5cc from Abyss/Act 6) and it seemed to have achieved its purpose.

I agree that cav deals were lackluster to say the least, but t5cc is expected to be rare for some time as Kabam (and hopefully most of the player base) wouldn't want majority of the players to be in the top tier that was only introduced 2 months ago, in a game that's nearly six years old

If they wanted to create a tier with less players they should’ve made the requirement multiple rank 3’s. There’s this weird line where many Cav players think they should be at this title even though they’re clearly not ready. Getting one t5cc and having a champ to use it on is one thing. And people can complain about RNG all day because of it. Making it multiple rank 3’s would’ve shut that down pretty quickly in my opinion

BitterSteel

How many of the people saying it’s a failure are those that are cavalier or lower?

OGAvenger

How many of the people saying it’s a failure are those that are cavalier or lower?

Would be nice to know lol

Like I said I’ve been TB though since release and still think it’s a failure. Released well before it was planned. Made it much easier to obtain that it was planned. Rolled it out with minimal features. Partially responsible for Cavs getting screwed on deals...

Just seems like they’re making it up day by day and it tends to backfire when that’s the case

naikavon

It's a title. Given time anyone can achieve this title. The key word is time. Some don't wanna wait. "I should have it when I want it" is the epitomy of entitlement. Well, rng is a fickle mistress. If a player does nothing to minimize its impact...well that is on them.

The requirements of only one r3 six star creates this illusion that makes people think they are much closer than they are. If you do not have a good candidate to r3, odds are pretty good you do not have a deep roster. Or, if you are struggling to obtain t5cc you're 'prolly not running map 7 or high tier war. Both are on players. Put yourself in the best position to succeed rather than rely upon rng. Don't tempt fate.

Every instance I have seen involves people with 18 six stars or some other absurd low amount. Or 3 6 stars in a given class type complaining that they have no good options to rank up. Well, duh, you didn't have a lot to choose from. Why would someone bother to try to tackle content to obtain resources they have NO ONE to use it on? They complain of rng, yet take no steps to minimize it. That is wholly on the player, full stop.

You should already have options to use the resource on prior to accumulating that rare resource. Let me spell that out for you, don't run abyss if you don't already possess someone to use the resources on. And if you do (which is fine) don't complain about rng. You went into it with your eyes wide open, rolled the dice and came up craps. It happens. Be a big boy/girl and accept it with grace. Over time, your roster depth will grow and you will have someone to r3. Plus, as with all resources, as the game moves on the scarcity changes, and we all chase the next rare resource. Such is the rat race.

The only failure I've seen involves impatient players wanting to keep up with the Jones' and whining incessantly about their own poor roster management.

Worknprogress

It's a title. Given time anyone can achieve this title. The key word is time. Some don't wanna wait. "I should have it when I want it" is the epitomy of entitlement. Well, rng is a fickle mistress. If a player does nothing to minimize its impact...well that is on them.

The requirements of only one r3 six star creates this illusion that makes people think they are much closer than they are. If you do not have a good candidate to r3, odds are pretty good you do not have a deep roster. Or, if you are struggling to obtain t5cc you're 'prolly not running map 7 or high tier war. Both are on players. Put yourself in the best position to succeed rather than rely upon rng. Don't tempt fate.

Every instance I have seen involves people with 18 six stars or some other absurd low amount. Or 3 6 stars in a given class type complaining that they have no good options to rank up. Well, duh, you didn't have a lot to choose from. Why would someone bother to try to tackle content to obtain resources they have NO ONE to use it on? They complain of rng, yet take no steps to minimize it. That is wholly on the player, full stop.

You should already have options to use the resource on prior to accumulating that rare resource. Let me spell that out for you, don't run abyss if you don't already possess someone to use the resources on. And if you do (which is fine) don't complain about rng. You went into it with your eyes wide open, rolled the dice and came up craps. It happens. Be a big boy/girl and accept it with grace. Over time, your roster depth will grow and you will have someone to r3. Plus, as with all resources, as the game moves on the scarcity changes, and we all chase the next rare resource. Such is the rat race.

The only failure I've seen involves impatient players wanting to keep up with the Jones' and whining incessantly about their own poor roster management.

This is 100% accurate and is gonna be a disagree magnet

Graydrox

There ain't no way that the people who have:
1. designed this game
2. have roads maps years in advance
3. and have studied mobile game consumer behavior

know a thing about what they are doing ! This whole getting peoples minds to be ready to move on from cavalier did not once cross any of their minds ! I'll tell you hwhat !

ccrider474

It's a title. Given time anyone can achieve this title. The key word is time. Some don't wanna wait. "I should have it when I want it" is the epitomy of entitlement. Well, rng is a fickle mistress. If a player does nothing to minimize its impact...well that is on them.

The requirements of only one r3 six star creates this illusion that makes people think they are much closer than they are. If you do not have a good candidate to r3, odds are pretty good you do not have a deep roster. Or, if you are struggling to obtain t5cc you're 'prolly not running map 7 or high tier war. Both are on players. Put yourself in the best position to succeed rather than rely upon rng. Don't tempt fate.

Every instance I have seen involves people with 18 six stars or some other absurd low amount. Or 3 6 stars in a given class type complaining that they have no good options to rank up. Well, duh, you didn't have a lot to choose from. Why would someone bother to try to tackle content to obtain resources they have NO ONE to use it on? They complain of rng, yet take no steps to minimize it. That is wholly on the player, full stop.

You should already have options to use the resource on prior to accumulating that rare resource. Let me spell that out for you, don't run abyss if you don't already possess someone to use the resources on. And if you do (which is fine) don't complain about rng. You went into it with your eyes wide open, rolled the dice and came up craps. It happens. Be a big boy/girl and accept it with grace. Over time, your roster depth will grow and you will have someone to r3. Plus, as with all resources, as the game moves on the scarcity changes, and we all chase the next rare resource. Such is the rat race.

The only failure I've seen involves impatient players wanting to keep up with the Jones' and whining incessantly about their own poor roster management.

You lost me on i don't know how to manage my roster better mate.

33 6* with 5 duped 1 is lvl 60 all natural.
8 are now r2 still got resources for 1 more

12 r5 and gems for 2 more (tech and skill meh I'll get around to it)

19 r4 tons of resources in overflow

I can see the no map 7 but will you let me in your allaince? Completion i score on avg 100k, arena about 50k but I have an 8 hr block that I can absolutely sit and grind the whole time but other than that window I'm gone. Kinda a flaw in the game that 8hrs a day isn't enough but so be it I'm happy with what I get.

Why should I have to r3 daredevil or Kingpin to get the offers that were already proven to be there. I have an option and multiple in every single class bar 1.

Tbf I don't want to keep up with the big boys just don't want my years of work to be rolled back to irrelevant in one move and cyber weekend for cavalier was just that.

naikavon

It's a title. Given time anyone can achieve this title. The key word is time. Some don't wanna wait. "I should have it when I want it" is the epitomy of entitlement. Well, rng is a fickle mistress. If a player does nothing to minimize its impact...well that is on them.

The requirements of only one r3 six star creates this illusion that makes people think they are much closer than they are. If you do not have a good candidate to r3, odds are pretty good you do not have a deep roster. Or, if you are struggling to obtain t5cc you're 'prolly not running map 7 or high tier war. Both are on players. Put yourself in the best position to succeed rather than rely upon rng. Don't tempt fate.

Every instance I have seen involves people with 18 six stars or some other absurd low amount. Or 3 6 stars in a given class type complaining that they have no good options to rank up. Well, duh, you didn't have a lot to choose from. Why would someone bother to try to tackle content to obtain resources they have NO ONE to use it on? They complain of rng, yet take no steps to minimize it. That is wholly on the player, full stop.

You should already have options to use the resource on prior to accumulating that rare resource. Let me spell that out for you, don't run abyss if you don't already possess someone to use the resources on. And if you do (which is fine) don't complain about rng. You went into it with your eyes wide open, rolled the dice and came up craps. It happens. Be a big boy/girl and accept it with grace. Over time, your roster depth will grow and you will have someone to r3. Plus, as with all resources, as the game moves on the scarcity changes, and we all chase the next rare resource. Such is the rat race.

The only failure I've seen involves impatient players wanting to keep up with the Jones' and whining incessantly about their own poor roster management.
You lost me on i don't know how to manage my roster better mate.

33 6* with 5 duped 1 is lvl 60 all natural.
8 are now r2 still got resources for 1 more

12 r5 and gems for 2 more (tech and skill meh I'll get around to it)

19 r4 tons of resources in overflow

I can see the no map 7 but will you let me in your allaince? Completion i score on avg 100k, arena about 50k but I have an 8 hr block that I can absolutely sit and grind the whole time but other than that window I'm gone. Kinda a flaw in the game that 8hrs a day isn't enough but so be it I'm happy with what I get.

Why should I have to r3 daredevil or Kingpin to get the offers that were already proven to be there. I have an option and multiple in every single class bar 1.

Tbf I don't want to keep up with the big boys just don't want my years of work to be rolled back to irrelevant in one move and cyber weekend for cavalier was just that.

I hear everything you are saying. Tbf, 33 six stars is not a deep roster. Now, that's just my opinion, but consider that all 33 of those six stars are not concentrated in one class type. Rather they are spread out between the six different classes. On average you would have ~5 per class to choose from. (ofc randomness could disproportionately lead to a greater or lesser concentration) Now you COULD get lucky and have choices to choose from but that's what it is...luck.

Roster management is more than having resources to rank up champs, it also involves having champs to rank up.

I know that sounds crazy to some. But it absolutely is a roster management issue to go after resources you can't use. ( because there exists no viable candidate to use said resources on) Time (and money) builds depth of a roster. The person who has 5 six stars for each class is far less likely to have a "viable" r3 candidate than someone with 15 per class. That seems common sense to me, yet here we are.

There is nothing wrong with pushing beyond one's roster capabilities and banking resources for future use, but that is a PLAYER CHOICE. When rng inevitably rears her ugly head, the player immediately recognizes the lack of choices they have to r3 and blame rng. What they often fail to recognize is what I discuss above.

The point is, if you are reliant upon rng, the player failed to account for an adequate amount of incoming resources (high tier alliance rewards) or depth of roster. (viability of choice-now this last could also be the player is very picky but that is another topic for another day).

unknown

This content has been removed.

Reference

It's a title. Given time anyone can achieve this title. The key word is time. Some don't wanna wait. "I should have it when I want it" is the epitomy of entitlement. Well, rng is a fickle mistress. If a player does nothing to minimize its impact...well that is on them.

The requirements of only one r3 six star creates this illusion that makes people think they are much closer than they are. If you do not have a good candidate to r3, odds are pretty good you do not have a deep roster. Or, if you are struggling to obtain t5cc you're 'prolly not running map 7 or high tier war. Both are on players. Put yourself in the best position to succeed rather than rely upon rng. Don't tempt fate.

Every instance I have seen involves people with 18 six stars or some other absurd low amount. Or 3 6 stars in a given class type complaining that they have no good options to rank up. Well, duh, you didn't have a lot to choose from. Why would someone bother to try to tackle content to obtain resources they have NO ONE to use it on? They complain of rng, yet take no steps to minimize it. That is wholly on the player, full stop.

You should already have options to use the resource on prior to accumulating that rare resource. Let me spell that out for you, don't run abyss if you don't already possess someone to use the resources on. And if you do (which is fine) don't complain about rng. You went into it with your eyes wide open, rolled the dice and came up craps. It happens. Be a big boy/girl and accept it with grace. Over time, your roster depth will grow and you will have someone to r3. Plus, as with all resources, as the game moves on the scarcity changes, and we all chase the next rare resource. Such is the rat race.

The only failure I've seen involves impatient players wanting to keep up with the Jones' and whining incessantly about their own poor roster management.
This is 100% accurate and is gonna be a disagree magnet

Naikavon's post only got agree and without disagree, only your reply did. Unfortunately.