Let’s settle the Domino Debate.

It seems this has became a very heated topic for the last few months, so why not settle this now? Consider ALL Synergies that could benefit here and the situations to use her in.

Comments

Masterpuff

Emma is good but i just really dont like her lol.

Rockypantherx

I’ve got a 6* R2 Domino who never gets used, and a 5/65 Emma that comes with me every war, AQ if she isn’t in war, and was used a ton in Act 7. Domino hasn’t touched any of that content for me

Epistriatus

If possible, deleted from the game would be the prefered choice.

Crcrcrc

I’ll ask the question everyone’s thinking

Where’s the “last place” option?

FiiNCH

OP mentioned all situations so I voted with defence in mind too. Okay fair enough, just wanted to understand your thinking. I don’t disagree with any of it - just from my own experience I’ve used domino to clear a lot more content than Emma and pound for pound I find domino a much more enjoyable champ.

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Sungj

I used my rank 4 Emma more in exploring act 6 than I did my rank 5 Domino. The simple fact is Domino without the trinity is undeniably not a top ten mutant and even with synergies there's not that many situations in end game content where she is needed or even a top option.

Emma on the other hand even though she was at a lower rank was more useful to me and would be more useful to a lot of players because the utility she does have is unique and she's a solid champion all around. You underestimate the value of immunities and emma has more relevant immunities than any other champion in the entire game. The stun immunity in diamod form is especially useful against certain nodes and criminally underrated. She's also a solid evade counter, counters reverse controls and has taunts that can bypass all or nothing.

She literally has maybe 5 times the utility that Domino does if not more and her damage output is nothing to scoff at either. If you're a skilled player and could only use emma frost or domino to try completing/exploring as much of act 6 as possible you'd have a significantly better time doing it with Emma frost

Rouger4

Clicked this option by mistake she’s top somewhere between 15 and 20 IMO

MaxGaming

Domino is a He?!

Etjama

Tiger360

She’s above Emma Frost easily. Id argue Namor too.

Etjama

Emma's got far more utility and hits hard reliably. Namor is better for passive damage than any other champ in the game and hits extremely hard with his Imperious Rex cycle. Domino hits insanely hard... sometimes. And she doesn't have reliable utility.

naikavon

Let me fix these whack lists:

Colossus
OR
Magneto

Archangel
Apoc
Prof X
......
The rest are interchangeable parts and picked for situational use. (Note not including weapon x)

Jockeying for position from here down depends on content being done, node combos and such.

Those above, have a pretty good and wide range of content they shine in. If you' had to go in blind to a quest the top 3 a summoner could feel confident bringing. To a lesser degree, Apoc and Prof X as well. Not so much Archangel but he's so good at what he does he gets into the top 6. Beyond those though, ain't nobody bringing the situationals in blind.

SpideyFunko

Colossus over Magneto and Omega? What are you on mate?

naikavon

I would ask you the same. Mags is great.... against metal. OR is great with suicides. He's just good without them. Colossus shines with our without. In my mind, that makes him better than both. I have them all, Colossus is used almost everywhere all the time. The others, not so much. That's value.

Etjama

What he said. And also, good thing which champs you'd bring in blind has nothing to do with it. A champ should be rated on how much they can do in this game effectively, and how effectively they work in those areas.

Rockypantherx

I’ve got them all at 5/65. Mags and Omega get used literally everywhere. Colossus sits on defence. Omega is still the best mutant without suicides. Pre nerf Act 6 100% taught me that. Mags might only counter metal champs but the metal tag covers most of the annoying champs in the game. You don’t need to counter a champ like iron fist

Rouger4

To me colossus is a generic mutant with simple mechanics: sustainability, immunities and damage. He takes these things to the extreme which makes him one of the best mutant in a normal scenario.

However, magneto can decimate metal fights so easily and quickly, while negating all the nodes and abilities that he’s superior to colossus. A lot of abyss fights, act6 bosses and tough defenders are metal and he destroys them so efficiently and that’s what makes him so good.

naikavon

Interesting. I used Colossus everywhere in act 6. ( OR was there as well but primarily just as a synergy partner) And pretty liberally in book 2. Mags was used more than OR by a fair margin as well. I don't participate in war anymore so OR loses value from that for me.

Anyway, I ain't trying to change anyone's mind. To each their own. Just seeing a lot of folks sleeping on Colossus. He's without question top 3, you can quibble about position within that but that's preference and experience using champs.

This is more for people who think he's not top 3. They whack

Etjama

"He needs suicides" is not an argument. First of all, no he doesn't. Second of all, I could just as easily say "Colossus needs synergies, therefore he's not as good as the other Mutants."

naikavon

Well maybe you hear it cause it's true. I didn't say he needed suicides. I simply spoke the truth... he's far better with them and NOT AS GOOD without them. Them's facts.

Etjama

That is true, but it doesn't make him any worse of a champ. It should have no effect on where he stands in the Mutant class. If it did, Colossus shouldn't be nearly as high as you have him either due to his reliance on synergies.

naikavon

To say it should have no effect is a bit much. I mean I factor in Colossus needing synergies so...

They aren't the same. You can't argue OR is better and then say having to bring him is a detriment lol.

Anyway, none of it matters. We judge based on our own experiences and since Colossus wrecked pre-nerf act 6 for me and continues to in book 2 and pretty much everywhere is why I hold him so high obviously your experiences are different. And that is OK. But those who rank him lower than 3... They're just wrong. Experience be dammed lol

AceLuffySabo

People saying she isnt top 10 need to start playing MCOC instead of whatever else it is they're playing with Domino in it

Rockypantherx

I’m not convinced he’s top 3. He has literally been sidelined for me since the moment I ranked him up. I was told he was this incredible champ, he seemed pretty good, so I took him to 5/65, and he just sits there. He did nothing in act 6 for me, or book 2, war, variants. The only time I ever use him is map 5 AQ. He’s got great damage, but he just does nothing utility wise I don’t have Brett more specialist options for

If you think he’s top 3 fine, but I’m on here a lot and I’ve still yet to hear a convincing argument. Certainly not in my experience

Etjama

Ditto here. Not even bothering to R2 my 6*. He's got immunities, but he doesn't do anything special or unique, he just kinda excels at the average things that any champ can do which just isn't enough for me. I'd take OR, Mags, or AA over him any day.

Etjama

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naikavon

Nothing unique or special? Ok, so now I know it's one of two things:

either you are trolling or you legitimately forgot about his ability to completely take away the opponents ability to crit.

Last I checked, not a whole lot of champs have that in their kit. Pretty unique.

Let me just add that my profile pick isn't just for looks. I love using Doom (interestingly another crit resistance guy...a pattern I sense) and suicides ain't exactly his friend ya know, so OR ain't as impressive as the comrade.

Again, I ain't trying to convince anyone. I only correct wrong statements.

Masterpuff

As an owner of all 3 as 5/65s, i use Omega and Mags wayyyy more. Colossus honestly rarely gets used. Mags is good against metal, true. That is also 1/3 of the game. And people overlook the fact that he is good for non-metal matchups too. And Omega doesnt need suicides. He shines with or without them. Easily one of the best champs in alliance war, and he has such amazing utility. Honestly, i want some of what youre on.

Etjama

Am I missing how crit resistance is supposed to be a valuable ability? And what the heck does Doom and suicides suddenly have to do with it? How am I the one that's supposed to be trolling here?