**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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The point is, nowadays, damage and utility are the two measures that value how good a champ is. Hood was always measured by his weaker damage and really great buff control. Every week or two there was an underrated champion thread on the forum and Hood always popped up, because so many players decided to rank him up for his utility in controlling buffs. They relied on him to control buffs, everything else he did was a bonus.
There's a reason not as many people are worried about the invisibility change. People in general arent opposed to abilities changing, his invisibility was not a core piece of why Hood is useful, it was an occasional nice to have. If this was the sole change nobody would mind too much, but taking away Hood's entire identity as a champion? He IS a buff control champ. There's a reason why people don't consider Juggernaut or Sasquatch a buff control champ, stagger is not reliable unless it stacks.
Thats why we can tell already that this change is not good. I do not need another damage dealer in my roster, I have CGR, Ghost, Professor X, Falcon and more at r3. What i do need, is more utility, i was hoping Hood could be that utility, but now he will be a pretty good damage dealer, and in general, that is less useful to people.
And even if Hood comes out of this update with really great damage and people start using him, a few people will be saying oh well why does it matter, his damage is really great now?
The reason it still matters is what about next time kabam decide to upgrade a champion that people are using for a purpose and remove their ability to deal with that purpose? What if they don't get the damage numbers right? They don't always hit the mark with buffs. If Hood gets a YJ sort of damage buff would people be saying at least he still has damage? No, kabam would have taken a really usable utility champion, removed a huge chunk of the utility that people rank him up for and said here you go have some mediocre damage.
Champions like Ronan, Hawkeye, Dr Voodoo, Hulk Ragnarok, Night Thrasher, Rogue etc come to mind. Not the top tier champions necessary, but definitely still ranked up today for specific uses, whether it's high buff, power control, immunities, passive degen, evade or whatever. These are champions similar in value to Hood, Angela and Massacre and I really hope when their time comes for an update that Kabam won't just throw damage on Glad Hulk, and nerf his face me because it's too powerful. People rank him for that ability, not his damage. They might not need damage, but they wanted the ability that Kabam decided to get rid of.
in such situations where you will need control of buffs regardless of Hood's fateseal, he will not be a priority for such situations. It's easier to look at the statistics of which of the mystics are more often raised to 5* - 5 and 6* 3 ranks.
Even in mystic variant 5, the hood is on the side.. I have not yet seen anyone who would take a hood in abyss instead of doctor doom or supreme...
Whether he will have fateseal or not as long as players have champions like doom, supreme, mojo and claire
it doesn't matter anymore, unless you have the champions listed above and the hood will become a more budgetary version... temporarily...
The hood before the update remained a budget mystic version
Come on dude, empathise, think outside your bubble
Also, while I have some of the previously mentioned champs that supposedly do what Hood can do, but “better” doesn’t make them play the same as he does - also none of them have invisibility.
He was my first rank 5 for a lot of reasons, but his play style was what I liked about him the most.
Also, is the reason his Fate Seal is being removed because Odin is being released next month as well? Would Hood have been a good counter, but removing the Fate seal, limit the champs that can handle him to a more niche set? I felt the last Cav EQ started to feel even more champ specific (and yes Hood was on my team for the mystic path).
Given your experience in that aspect I would’ve thought you’d understand why people are very unhappy about Hood having his core utility removed.
But no, you just love to argue with people that know better for the sake of it.
I am concerned that now, one of the future champion ‘buffs’ will be to one I’ve invested in for a specific reason, only for Kabam To suddenly decide they shouldnt have that use.
If Hoods buff control is too powerful with his new abilities, don't add those new abilities to him and take the buff control away, add new abilities that make him more usable and tone down those new abilities instead, leaving his kit alone.
I bet what happened was Kabam added these new abilities and tested him and he was awesome, perhaps he was overpowered that's not the question here. The question is why Kabam decided to tone down his existing abilities rather than the ones they added and should they have?
I can't answer the first, but the second is a resounding no.
Tone down the new abilities, that is not why people ranked up Hood. We won't miss the new abilities. We will miss his current kit. I know there's a huge chunk of Hood players who ranked up Hood specifically for his buff control, and they would prefer him to remain a buff control champ
*In case it's not obvious, I've replaced 'Hood' with 'Kingpin'
There's no doubt that Kingpin is objectively better all-round than he used to be. But as someone who was already making use of him, I can't just him as well against many of the match-ups I used to use him for. He used to shine against opponents or nodes who remotely inflict and then punish debuffs; mostly Science champs he's supposed to be strong against.
Electra, Void, Wasp, Luke Cage, Invisible Woman and Mr Fantastic all punish the opponent for carrying debuffs. Kingpin now carries more (rather than fewer) debuffs, as his Rage is a debuff rather than a Passive.
Nodes like Blood in the Water, While They're Down, and Insecurity all punish you for carrying debuffs.
Kingpin is no longer a good option against any of these opponents or nodes: He's a better champ all-round, but his place in my roster has changed. I guarantee more people will use him post-buff. But like DNA said, will that use all reflect new users? And will other people who used to use him, find that he's no longer as useful for the things they ranked him up for?
But I’d still be very annoyed if they reworked him entirely and it resulted in his power control being dropped because “oh he has a fancy phasing mechanic, power control would be too op to have as well”
So in this case, I think rank down tickets are warranted as you’re taking something away from the champion.