**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Kabam sells gold crystals for 20 units for 1. I can buy 55 gold crystals with $40.
Yes we know you can spend units on gold crystals. But it is very rare that people will drop 40 bucks and go for gold crystals and you know that. You know they’re different situations and it’s so obviously not applicable to both.
People will however, go for those t5cc crystals in much much and that’s why drop rates should be shown for them.
Either way, it seriously irritates when they follow the letter of the law rather than the spirit.
I think in general all items should have exact drop rates. I think it’s wrong that gold crystals don’t have exact drop rates, but it has a much lower impact in the game than an end game item like t5cc. Especially when it’s a range of 5-25%. That’s a difference in value of buying the offer 20 times for 800 dollars, or buying it 4 for 160.
However, this is not an Apple rule or a TOS. This is an Apple guideline for developers in their developer program. In other words, this is part of an agreement between the developer and Apple. You'd have no standing to sue, because Apple does not give *you* a guarantee that all lootboxes in their Apple Store have published odds. Apple asks their developers to publish those odds, and if they don't the only party with any standing to take action would be Apple. Kabam has no obligation to you to show odds. It has an obligation to Apple to show odds, and Apple has the first, last, and only say on whether they are in compliance with that guideline or not.
But...I’d list the drop rates for all those other cash-based crystals as well, regardless of whether it was specifically, legally required.
Maybe a step towards further marginalizing said conspiracy believing nut jobs (who are going to exist regardless) would be to actually just list the rates?
It’s perhaps an additional few dozen characters in the description (at most) and I’m confident the team knows them. And then there wouldn’t be any need for anyone to defend hiding cash offer drop rates as a general practice.
Dr. Zola
Dr. Zola
How does that even make sense? The Spirit of Kabam’s TOS? It’s pretty clear in both letter and spirit that those things are against it. Same with spirit of the law. I’m guessing you don’t actually understand what spirit of the law means, it means that you take into consideration of what the intention behind the law is as well as the literal words.
If you are a licensed and practicing engineer of some kind, your professional life is governed by professional codes: building codes, safety codes, operational codes. When you say "code" to an engineer, you evoke the mental image of a giant book of rules.
It isn't literally true, but it is true enough that you can probably trace every rule in that big book of rules to a pile of corpses. People die, and then after the fact people demand action, and then someone makes a specific rule to prevent that specific thing from happening again. We have food safety laws in the United States only after too many people died to unscrupulous people lacing candy with arsenic. We have drug safety laws in the United States because too many people were dying to lunatic concoctions we would today describe as rat poison. In the modern era, we add the additional step of tort. First people die, then people sue, *then* we get a new rule partially to prevent more people dying, and partially to indemnify corporations from getting sued again. That's why my lawnmower has specific rules stuck to it to not adjust cutting blades while it is running, and not to refuel indoors.
In the United States, if you can't point to a giant pile of bodies or a check with a large number of zeros, it is unlikely there's a rule governing that thing. Because rules are expensive, and they are always written in blood.
If there’s any justification beyond concealing how disadvantageous the odds really are, I’m happy to listen with an open-mind.
Dr. Zola
Of course, I’m open to other explanations.
It is possible that the issue with giving odds is not specifically to conceal how low they are, especially because people already believe the odds to be disadvantageous already, but rather to take away any ability to measure the value objectively at all, and force players to judge the value of things subjectively. You don't want people to decide whether to buy Doritos on the basis of calorie count, you want them to decide whether to buy Doritos on the basis of cheesy goodness.
It is worth noting that now with the Apple rules, Kabam does disclose odds, and because of the offers covered by the rule it is often the offers that contain the most "disadvantageous" odds that they are disclosing. In other words, even though Kabam is disclosing the odds you'd expect them to want to conceal already if the objective was to hide really tiny odds, they still hide the odds of things they aren't required to disclose where the odds are relatively moderate anyway.
So it might all be about selling more product in the end, but it might not be a simple case of "if we give out this number it will hurt our sales." It could be a lot more strategic: if we don't give out this number we can't be compared to our competitors on the basis of that number, and in fact it may cause consumers to stop caring about that number at all, since they can't use it to evaluate us. And that lets us shift the playing field to one where we have a much better advantage.
Back in 2018 I brought up the same issue in a thread that drop rates were not shown for Crystal shard crystals, in the same thread I made this comment that gold crystals not having drop rates were ridiculous too.
I’d say I’m being pretty consistent.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/57450/drop-rates-not-shown#latest