DDHK is the most undervalued champ in the entire game

Pancake_Face · March 2021

IMO he is underrated.

Masterpuff · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”

Yeah, Elsa was too high up 😏

Terra · March 2021

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬

I love my 6* r2 Masacre. He's going to r3 when I get a skill cat

Texas_11 · March 2021

Masterpuff said:

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”
Yeah, Elsa was too high up 😏

Of course you don’t mean that.

KDSuperFlash10 · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”

Yeah Elsa's a bit too high I agree

Masterpuff · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Masterpuff said:

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”
Yeah, Elsa was too high up 😏
Of course you don’t mean that.

I would keep that list mostly.

Falcon and Molegod above stealth, Kingpin equal to NT. Elsa≈Ronin.

Hector_1475 · March 2021

As far as I know. I'm perhaps the only owner of an R5 Sig 200 DDHK.

Now that we got that out of the way, even at max sig, DDHK is an occasionally useful champion. That's all. And I do run him with She-Hulk (who he benefits a lot) and Psylocke most of the times. Nothing more beyond that. Comparisons with top Skill champions are totally out of place. Always in my opinion.

MavRCK_ · March 2021

He’s bad.

Terrible design.

Difficult to use.

Poor utility.

Low damage.

Unio77 · March 2021

magnus_xix said:
With synergies, because of sheer amount of nodes and abilities DDHK counters, he is a top 2 skill champ imo. Without synergies he's top 5 and with suicides he's bottom 1.

I want what you are on mate.

J0eySn0w · March 2021

magnus_xix said:
With synergies, because of sheer amount of nodes and abilities DDHK counters, he is a top 2 skill champ imo. Without synergies he's top 5 and with suicides he's bottom 1.

I just wanna ask: What version/rank of DDHK do you have?

Lvernon15 · March 2021

magnus_xix said:

Terra said:

magnus_xix said:
With synergies, because of sheer amount of nodes and abilities DDHK counters, he is a top 2 skill champ imo. Without synergies he's top 5 and with suicides he's bottom 1.
As someone who personally enjoys DDHK (have a r5) putting him at top 2 skill is a extreme stretch. I'd argue he's top 12-15
That's understandable but with synergies he is aegon at 500 hits minus the damaging debuff shrug off, and falcon with 100% uptime on lock on.

And minus about 80% of the damage

Mauled · March 2021

At best I would argue that he is a champion.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 · March 2021

Yo I want what you're smoking

Rookiie · March 2021

Honestly @magnus_xix if you had some gameplay vids to back up your claims that would be really helpful

magnus_xix · March 2021

Y'all really didn't like that one eh? 😅 It's understandable. If I make another write up I'll be sure to make it better than this one. Thanks for feedback folks! 👍

Rookiie · March 2021

magnus_xix said:
Y'all really didn't like that one eh? 😅 It's understandable. If I make another write up I'll be sure to make it better than this one. Thanks for feedback folks! 👍

I did. I just need to see it to believe it.

Superchampion_ · March 2021

magnus_xix said:
Y'all really didn't like that one eh? 😅 It's understandable. If I make another write up I'll be sure to make it better than this one. Thanks for feedback folks! 👍

I did enjoy and thank you for taking the time to write this novel. I’m glad to see other people enjoy DDHK too and I did learn some things. The reason people are complaining is that you said he was a top 2 skill champ. If you didn’t say that, the response would have been more positive.

Edit: also, some gameplay would be nice

Etjama · March 2021

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”

I mean it's not in order but it's kinda close... probably Falcon above Stealthy, Mole God above NT, Elsa above Gwenpool, Kingpin above Ronin and it'd be in order for me.

Etjama · March 2021

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬

He's fun, I'd rank him up for that. But nothing else. He is extremely lacking in utility. All he has is 50% AAR and it's not enough.

Kill_Grey · March 2021

Etjama said:

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”
I mean it's not in order but it's kinda close... probably Falcon above Stealthy, Mole God above NT, Elsa above Gwenpool, Kingpin above Ronin and it'd be in order for me.

I feel NT is better than Molegod actually. Except with suicides.

Etjama · March 2021

Kill_Grey said:

Etjama said:

Texas_11 said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You forgot to add “ in no particular order”
I mean it's not in order but it's kinda close... probably Falcon above Stealthy, Mole God above NT, Elsa above Gwenpool, Kingpin above Ronin and it'd be in order for me.
I feel NT is better than Molegod actually. Except with suicides.

It's just a lot more impractical to use his utility when compared to Mole God. Plus he has the unstoppable on block which allows him to deal with intercept nodes and create easy openings against stun immune.

Annihilator13_ · March 2021

He is still useless

Etjama · March 2021

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬
He's fun, I'd rank him up for that. But nothing else. He is extremely lacking in utility. All he has is 50% AAR and it's not enough.
Then you haven’t read his utilities properly. Trust me. It’s there

Lol, no it's not. I've read through all of his abilities. 50% AAR is the only meaningful utility he has. It's not near enough to make him at all relevant anywhere in Endgame content.

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬
He's fun, I'd rank him up for that. But nothing else. He is extremely lacking in utility. All he has is 50% AAR and it's not enough.
Then you haven’t read his utilities properly. Trust me. It’s there

What have you done.

The_Sentry06 · March 2021

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬
He's fun, I'd rank him up for that. But nothing else. He is extremely lacking in utility. All he has is 50% AAR and it's not enough.
Then you haven’t read his utilities properly. Trust me. It’s there
Lol, no it's not. I've read through all of his abilities. 50% AAR is the only utility he has. It's not near enough to make him at all relevant anywhere.

He can also parry non-contact projectiles which I guess is useful

Crcrcrc · March 2021

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Monke said:

Etjama said:

Terra said:

KDSuperFlash10 said:
DDHK doesn't even scratch top 20 skill champs have some shame
Come now, DDHK is not THAT bad.
He's around spot 15 at worst.
Yeah, I'd put him at a firm 15 behind Nick, Ægon, Stealthy, Falcon, KM, NT, Mole God, Hit Monkey, Ronin, Gwenpool, Elsa, BWDO, Kingpin, and Blade.
You’re majorly underrating Masacre. Insane block prof (higher than dooms), Can get insane damage in different ways, skill Cav eq God. Solid aar when used properly, and also very easy to use with his buff. The damage is off the charts and I think he’s arguably a top 10 skill ahead of Ronin 😬
He's fun, I'd rank him up for that. But nothing else. He is extremely lacking in utility. All he has is 50% AAR and it's not enough.
Then you haven’t read his utilities properly. Trust me. It’s there
Lol, no it's not. I've read through all of his abilities. 50% AAR is the only utility he has. It's not near enough to make him at all relevant anywhere.
It’s not just the aar mate. It’s the fact he can deal damage in different ways. He can prevent healing with the despair mastery. He can counter autoblock effects really Well. He pretty much never crits if you’re literally just HITTING INTO THE BLOCK. He has better block prof then doom and double of the forums Sacred Treasure Mole Man. He has access to incinerate debuffs which Makes him useful for the diss track, Skill Cav eq, healing preventing as I stated above, plus bleed debuffs which are small, but have long uptime to counter champs like Torch. He also has long animations which make it easier to intercept, but I guess you can call that “Fun to play”

He also has the ability when play correctly to (kinda) gain passive power. This can help with some nodes that require specials to be thrown (that one in 6.1.2? Can’t remember). The amount of power he releases when fighting opponent is dramatically low, he can gain more power than his opponent with his power gain while reducing their combat power rate by a lot

And god forbid you put BWDO in there with probably the least impressing kit in the game, and I’m a fan of her, but she’s a mile behind most skills cuz her utility is lacking worse

I'm not sure you're playing DDHK. He has no incinerates, no passive power gain, hitting into the opponent's block is basically worthless for a combo-based champ, and he can barely reduce healing
edit: lol I just realized you switched to masacre not ddhk

DDHK is the most undervalued champ in the entire game

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