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Angela Buff Criticism

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  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Didnt punisher get some new synergies? She is an old champ with no unique synergies on her. So we can expect some new ones or a modification of old one to unique synergies.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    MrChonks said:

    Pulyaman said:

    You know who else could use a value update? Mordo. He was released before Angela. I am patient kabam. He has a good kit. Just give him some solid damage increase and he is good to go. 😉

    Tbh he’s pretty good in incursions with buff cornucopia, but If they tuned his damage to like falcon level that’d be sick
    Ah, no. If you run sector 8, opponents are pretty beefy and I don't know if I can finish the fight with good health.
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.
  • PinkysegunPinkysegun Posts: 53
    ItsDamien said:

    Cam97 said:

    I still think it's strange the asgardians arent poison immune or thor rag completely shock immune ( or even better shocks ramp him up) and loki could be frost bite/cold snap immune.
    Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well

    I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)

    Wanna know why Thor Rags isn't completely shock immune?



    Because he can still get shocked, even in the Thor Ragnarok movie.


    My will... has expired.
    What makes you think that's electricity?
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    Kabam mike should have just not used the word “update” he should have said next tune up is ... Angela
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
  • GiuliameijGiuliameij Posts: 1,399 ★★★★
    I love the fact she is getting a buff. I really like her as a champion but I find myself often using other champs over her. A little extra umpf could change that. And make me choose her, even if she is still a little less effective as other champs. But purely from an enjoyment side.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Posts: 7,569 ★★★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
    Well, it’s not that I didn’t understand , it’s that I was going off of the original terms used.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
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  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Posts: 7,569 ★★★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
    Well, it’s not that I didn’t understand , it’s that I was going off of the original terms used.

    Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.

    Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
    Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
    ^So you didn’t read any of these Kabam Miike posts?
    It was clarified what kind of buff it was multiple times
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★
    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
    Well, it’s not that I didn’t understand , it’s that I was going off of the original terms used.

    Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.

    Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
    Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
    ^So you didn’t read any of these Kabam Miike posts?
    It was clarified what kind of buff it was multiple times
    I actually missed two of those. Regardless, the word “update” was confusing for me because that was not the verbiage used in the original forum post. Mike clarified going forward what that means.

    I was confused on the wording , and if he had to explain what that wording met , I do believe he understood my confusion. Semantics of “update”, was important. We would not be having this conversation if he didn’t have update in the wording.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Well, to be fair admin comments must be pinned or should be available separately in some way. Its way too much to expect to wade through so many comments to see what the admins have written. I know they are highlighted, but for side event announcements the pages add up so quickly that it becomes tedious to see any additional information we might be looking for. Something for the admins to look into.
  • KDSuperFlash10KDSuperFlash10 Posts: 5,869 ★★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    Well, to be fair admin comments must be pinned or should be available separately in some way. Its way too much to expect to wade through so many comments to see what the admins have written. I know they are highlighted, but for side event announcements the pages add up so quickly that it becomes tedious to see any additional information we might be looking for. Something for the admins to look into.

    It's also expected from us to gather all the information we can get before commenting. Why comment something that's already been answered if you're too lazy to read? Don't be lazy and just skim through 4 simple pages of text for orange text, which would indicate a Kabam mod response. If they've answered your question, bounce. If they haven't, feel free to ask the question.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★

    Pulyaman said:

    Well, to be fair admin comments must be pinned or should be available separately in some way. Its way too much to expect to wade through so many comments to see what the admins have written. I know they are highlighted, but for side event announcements the pages add up so quickly that it becomes tedious to see any additional information we might be looking for. Something for the admins to look into.

    It's also expected from us to gather all the information we can get before commenting. Why comment something that's already been answered if you're too lazy to read? Don't be lazy and just skim through 4 simple pages of text for orange text, which would indicate a Kabam mod response. If they've answered your question, bounce. If they haven't, feel free to ask the question.
    I feel like you did not read my comment fully.
    I specifically said side events. Have you seen the number of pages last month? And with the complicated side events, it is very tedious to go through all the text. Not everyone can have the time to do that. It's not laziness, it's just common sense to have the important comments pinned at the start of the thread so that people don't have to wade through all the bs to get information.
  • KRoNX1KRoNX1 Posts: 1,089 ★★★★

    Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.

    Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
    Is killmonger there in that list? Just asking 🙄
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,501 ★★★★★

    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
    Well, it’s not that I didn’t understand , it’s that I was going off of the original terms used.

    Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.

    Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
    Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
    ^So you didn’t read any of these Kabam Miike posts?
    It was clarified what kind of buff it was multiple times
    I actually missed two of those.
    Not Kabam's fault you missed two of Miike's comments. Don't miss them next time.
    No, it’s not. Its not my fault it’s not Mikes fault, there doesn’t need to be a fault. My concern was that their verbiage was different than the original dev diary no matter what was clarified . Your issue is , you are upset that people missed Mikes comments then saying they don’t read. Mike has even clarified my specific question, which means it must have been a little more confusing than he had originally planned.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Texas_11 said:

    It shocks me how many people can't read on here.

    Tune up = Value update = numbers change (no ability changes) (Punisher 2099, Mole Man, Terrax, Angela)
    Update = Numbers tweak + a few new abilities (Falcon, Gambit, Kingpin, YJ)
    Overhaul = Complete redesign of kit (Colossus, Both Magnetos, Hulkbuster)

    I don't see how people are complaining about a buff to Angela. Kabam are buffing 4 champs a month for 2/3 of the months in 2020 (The other 1/3 is 2 champ overhaul months). 40 champs are to be buffed in 2021, why do y'all care if Angela gets buffed now or in December? So many people have sig 60 6 star Angelas rotting away, this tune up is very much appreciated. Y'all complain when you get a 6 star Angela sig 40 but then complain when she's announced to be getting a buff, make up your minds.

    You cannot change the wording to show a contrast between the two “tweak” the words they used was “Value only , Update”, it’s fair to assume people confused update with YJ and Kingpin. Mike should have said next tune up. This is their legend below and how they should describe it going forward.

    Balanced – Champions that are “Good Enough for Now”, or better.
    Tune-Up – No ability changes just tuning up numbers (Torch or Sentry)
    Update – Numbers and Minor Ability Changes but largely the same kit (a la Red Hulk, or Carnage)
    Overhaul – Whole new kit time. (Think Hulkbuster or Colossus)
    The commonly used are "Value only Update", "Moderate Update", and "Overhaul". These are all forms of Updates.
    Thank you Mike. Going forward I can use this information to better understand where a champ lies on the spectrum of update. Mainly between “value only” and “moderate”
    4th time’s the charm for the mods repeating themselves.
    Well, it’s not that I didn’t understand , it’s that I was going off of the original terms used.

    Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.

    Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.

    I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.

    So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
    Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
    ^So you didn’t read any of these Kabam Miike posts?
    It was clarified what kind of buff it was multiple times
    I actually missed two of those.
    Not Kabam's fault you missed two of Miike's comments. Don't miss them next time.
    No, it’s not. Its not my fault it’s not Mikes fault, there doesn’t need to be a fault. My concern was that their verbiage was different than the original dev diary no matter what was clarified . Your issue is , you are upset that people missed Mikes comments then saying they don’t read. Mike has even clarified my specific question, which means it must have been a little more confusing than he had originally planned.
    Yes, nobody is to be blamed because we have so many comments everyday, it is easy to miss some important ones. Admins and mods can try pinning important comments to the top of the thread so that we don't miss these. ( if that option is available that is)
  • LovekLovek Posts: 216 ★★★
    Happy and waiting this angela buff !!! She need it ! Thank kabam 😁😁😁
  • CosagornCosagorn Posts: 83
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  • MrBanksMrBanks Posts: 950 ★★★
    This thread did not age well

    my Angela is now 4/55

    thanks Kabam lol
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