Super indecisive, which to R3

Warlock, Ghost or Guilotine 2099 all un-duped.

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I'm talking about Spite. That Cosmic charge isn't a utility because it counters Spite. Cause it doesn't. As far as Colossus's passive fury goes, that's not a utility at all. All it does is increase attack rating which is used to counter absolutely nothing at all. I can't even think of a worse example to compare that to. Just imagine a fury buff that didn't count towards caustic temper/buffed up, etc and you've got a passive fury which literally has no use.

Masterpuff

This is still going on?

KDSuperFlash10

Saying Colossus’ passive fury is a piece of utility is like saying Groot’s unblockable sp2 is some massive utility.

There’s a lot of utility in this game, but Colossus’ passive fury ain’t it.

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Plinko

I can’t believe a conversation over the interpretation of the word utility has triggered this many long drawn out responses. Most containing contradictions lol

Plinko

Ah my mistake. I’m mixing up conversations.

Plinko

AND WHY AM I STILL HERE?!!

Kill_Grey

And a lot of other things too.

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Will3808

I looked through the comments to see if you had responded to this but you haven’t yet. I didn’t vote because it’s based on this, do you have an awakened 5* ghost, if you do, take warlock to rank 3. If not, take ghost to rank 3.

pseudosane

A question for rankup got to be a colossus bashing thread.....
@Etjama @CaptainGame whoever discussing colo, i suggest make another thread on colossus....

OP, my personal preference is g99, because my BG required an r3. I enjoy g99 a lot, and she crushes r3 apoc bosses for lunch. The added stats from r3 help her stay alive vs r3 apoc bosses (i cant dodge the specials).

Warlock would also be a great pick, he benefits a ton from the added stats.
I personally find ghosts awakened ability critical to playing her. Unduped i find her really painful to play.
In the end, talk to your alliance, examine the content you need to do, and see who you prefer playing more before making your choice. There is no wrong answer here.

Etjama

I'm facepalming all over, this is just all wrong. First of all, yes you can use Claire for Mix Master/Freezer Burn. Just throw 2 LLLML combos on a parry and you're in your incinerate phase. And of course not every champ can deal with a stunnable evade champ on freezer burn because not every champ ignores freezer burn. That's like saying, "Colossus can't counter stunnable evade champs cause what if you combine Mix Master with a poison node!" Your logic is way off.

The_Sentry06

There are also a ton of champs who loose out on a lot against stunnable evade counters. Colossus isn't one of them so it's a form of utility as in it allows him to go against them.

The_Sentry06

As for OP's question, Ghost is undoubetdly the best of those 3 champs and so, it comes down to who you think needs it the most and who you prefer it. Objectively, Warlock will benefit the most from it however, I would choose Ghost because having her at r3 is a whole new power-level and it's would be fun to see what kind of crazy things she would be able to pull off.

Etjama

How is it a utility if literally every champ in the game can do it? That's like saying that being able to throw a heavy attack is a utility just because some champs have stronger ones. It makes no sense.

Etjama

This is wrong on pretty much every level. Claire does work against Freezer Burn/Mix Master. Just parry, LLLML twice and you're in your incinerate phase. Also, that argument is so completely invalid. Of course not every champ can deal with Freezer Burn/Mix Master cause not every champ can deal with Freezer Burn, it has nothing to do with Mix Master since every champ can deal with it. I can use the exact same argument and say, "Colossus can't work against stunnable evade champs cause he won't work against Mix Master with a Poison node!" Check your logic, dude.

Crcrcrc

Any reason why not just LLLL with claire?
Otherwise I agree

Plinko

You are starting to sound like somebody else on here who ignores arguments and continues to use the prior provenly incorrect statements and questions to prove his point. Everybody keeps telling you that not every champ in the game can do that. So the question you are asking is based on a false assumption that every champ can throw a heavy without it being evaded.

Etjama

They can't evade in the stun but the last hit still registers. So if you throw the same hit out of a stun that you previously just threw in one, they'll evade. Only 3 hits can land in a stun.

Dr. Crab

That settles it...I guess I'm ranking up Colos..sus?

Crcrcrc

Actually, a heavy on a parry will connect every time, because opponents cannot evade while stunned.

Etjama

Every single champion on this game can parry the opponent, and either throw a 3 combo or a heavy attack. Every. Single.
One. You can go ahead and say otherwise, but you'd be wrong. There is no debate here, we're dealing with rock hard fact.

pseudosane

ignore the noise. People forget this is a game and nobody is forcing you to use a certain champ.

Masterpuff

OP’s thread

Plinko

So nick fury, thing, domino, sym supreme, ghulk, nightcrawler,aegon, AA, cable, caiw, blade, carnage, Corvus (without proxima synergy), etc all hit every hit of their attack on heavies while the defender is stunned even with limber as long as used before the timer runs out? You can say I’m wrong all you want but you can’t say yes to that question and continue to hold credibility.

CaptainGame

So even you know that’s not true when guys like nick fury can be evaded on the third hit of your heavy after the parry stun timer runs out. And I think you know that you’re wrong at this point but you simply don’t want to lose a debate so you are relying on simply lying and saying checkmate afterwards

Crcrcrc

3 hit combos are quick. 3 hit heavies are slow. You can only do usually a 2 hit or less heavy off a parry in mix master unless it’s really fast

CaptainGame

That’s not what he said though. Nor what we were comparing. He said ever single champ can throw a heavy on the parry stun and land it and that’s not correct. The comparison is that colossus can land his two hit heavy and have a passive fury to boost the attack on it.

Etjama

3 hit combos exist, that's why I mentioned them. I think maybe you just have no idea what you're talking about. So yeah, checkmate.