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Is Kabam now extremely conservative with all new and buffed champions.
Fabwizi
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I feel kabam has become too Conservative with all new and buffed champions , Some new champions have great animations but are not played at all by majority of player base, except CGR,Ibomb,I hulk etc. But they are very few are far in between and not meta breaking.
I do not know if this is a god thing or bad, but one of the major reason I feel I have been playing this game for so long is shifting meta in terms of both attack and defense.
But now, for very long the upper tier of champions have been quite static and most of the new champions would not even stand a chance even in blade meta.
Do you guys feel as well that kabam is becoming more and more Conservative day by day?
I do not know if this is a god thing or bad, but one of the major reason I feel I have been playing this game for so long is shifting meta in terms of both attack and defense.
But now, for very long the upper tier of champions have been quite static and most of the new champions would not even stand a chance even in blade meta.
Do you guys feel as well that kabam is becoming more and more Conservative day by day?
Is Kabam now extremely conservative with all new and buffed champions. 176 votes
Yes Kabam is now extremely Conservative.
49%
87 votes
No Kabam is not Conservative.
20%
36 votes
Yes Kabam is more Conservative but I am fine with that.
30%
53 votes
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If "better" champions are released, the "meta" would shift towards the higher end, meaning that there would be a greater difference in usability between the duds like Joe Fixit and characters like Quake. Not to mention that topping the utility of Quake is extremely hard to do without being (even more) game-breaking. However, Kabam has recognized that Quake is a dominating force in the game since she is able to clear a variety of different content to an extent that is arguably unrivaled by other champions and is thus changing how content and champions are made.
What I'm trying to say is although Quake and Ghost are dominating the "meta" right now, there isn't a need for champions to be even MORE proficient in terms of higher damage numbers or being able to clear more content. However, a better change to limit the difference between the usability of characters would be to make the top characters less effective in content overall and to make the bottom champions more useful, both of which they are doing.
Add in Hypo, CapIW, Stealth Spidey, Aegon, Torch and others...if you are simply using Quake and Ghost for everything you are depriving yourself of a lot of fun.
Dr. Zola
It has many benefits ..
1) doesn't upset balance of the game ..
2) gives time for people to get used to animations/ etc of new champs before they become "meta"
3) gives chance for everyone to see how they play (if at all) and how where exactly to buff them.
4) reduced issues of "OMG you nerfed my champ, I want compensation" outcries ...
I don't blame them .. it's a better business model than releasing OP champs and then having to take the nerf bat to them later.
As for the buffed champions, I very much disagree. I think people are being way too harsh on Kabam for the buffs. Literally every champion that has been buffed in this new buff system has become a better champion. Yes, not every champion will be top tier, but they are all improvements of their previous forms. And some of the recent buffs have been awesome, like Mole Man, Kingpin, and Angela, to name a few.
New champions have been underwhelming but Kabam always starts the year of not too well. The only exception is 2019 I think although that still had Diablo or Annihilus, not sure.
Buffs have also been great but nothing "Mags" level and I'm fine with that. I don't think anyone can deny that previously, the buffs had much more "impact" for example Magneto, Colossus, HB, Venom. So, in a sense, the buffs have been more Conservative. But that's not to say they have been bad, the recent buffs have been absolutely banging from the start of this program and hence, I'm fine with it.
To conclude - Champions don't excite me as much as they did before. It could be because of no new useful content to use them on. So, once variant 7 and act 7.2 comes, we may get a little more excitement.
All of the buffs recently have made the champions better, and most of the buffs have resulted in those champions being used a whole lot more.
It doesn't matter to me if you like her too, it's a niche utility that may be used somewhere in the future content. If I wanted to avoid a debuff , I would simply take a immune champ. I don't suddenly see a bunch of videos using Angela in so many situations. If you like her so much, show us your 5/65 or at least a 2/35 Angela.
That's not to say kabam should stop making god-tier champs. But I think with champs like Odin who interact with a lot of other champs, kabam was afraid players would find a cheat code of sorts that broke the game. It doesn't look like we've done that (and kabam took away stacking Odin's prefight) so it's safe for them to buff Odin in the near future to make his base kit a lot stronger
It's not niche in the slightest, that's like saying Colossus' immunities are niche, leaving him with no utility. Immunities/resistances are not niche. My 5 star Angela would be r5 sig 182 if I could awaken her.
I would not max my Namor without max sig. Namor also has prestige to consider. Do you see Namor being used anywhere now? That is why he has been pushed to a prestige rank up. Namor as a champion is a niche rank up to tackle damage reflect fights and I don't see people using him anywhere else.
I never said resistances and immunities are niche. Omega red is one of my favorite champs. He has bleed resistance out of the box. Colossus has bleed immunity out of the box. Take Rogue, she gains 70% reduced duration to all debuffs out of the box.Angela needs to gain 3 buffs at max sig before she can get that 100% reduction you talk about. At any rate, resistances/immunities are better than reduced duration any day. That is why people don't get suture.
You can talk her up anyway you want, but Angela is just as useful as she was in most rosters before the buff as she is after the buff.
No one's ever gassing up Angela at low sig. Do you not get it? I'm talking about a high sig Angela, not a low one. There's a reason you don't see many r3 Cap IW's, as his prestige is meh and he needs max sig. It doesn't make him less of a champion.
As for your final point, that's simply not true at all. Before the buff, Angela had nearly no utility. Now, she has amazing utility. Arguably the strongest utility in the entire cosmic class. Full resistance to all debuffs, can parry projectiles, full autoblock counter, and full nullify counter. Amazing utility. You need to take another look at her.
I am asking you the same thing as I did before, show me some gameplay where you or anyone else uses her after the buff. Even Brian Grant took her up against Sinister and he struggled with IMIW in that path. You know why? She lost her 3 buffs and could not prevent autoblock. I am not talking without playing her or having seen gameplay.
You have your views and I have mine mate. We can agree to disagree. She was a good addition to the game, but a very conservative one that is not wowing anyone soon.
idk what you have against angela but math says that 100%>70%
To my point, I was not going to use her for caltrops before, and not going to use her now either. Why would I when I can just as well take an immune champ?
To be very clear, I am not dismissing her usefulness having played with her before and after the buff. I am not convinced that she has become the utility monster that people are hyping her up to be.