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Falcon - 6* sig 20 or 5* sig 200 - Who you got?

PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
edited April 2021 in Strategy and Tips
Sig 200 gets massive crit rate but 6*’s will benefit off the book 2 global so it’s a bit of a difficult decision

Falcon - 6* sig 20 or 5* sig 200 - Who you got? 86 votes

5* sig 200
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6* sig 20
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  • Dart1981Dart1981 Posts: 222 ★★★
    5* sig 200
    GagoH said:

    Sig 200 gets massive crit rate but 6*’s will benefit off the book 2 global so it’s a bit of a difficult decision

    I've got a 5* 5/65 sig 120 falcon, would love the 6* but that crit on evade fail does give awesome extra damage
  • pseudosanepseudosane Posts: 3,799 Guardian
    6* sig 20
    i see barely any difference in my r5 sig200 on main and r5 sig20 on alt.
  • DrenlinDrenlin Posts: 787 ★★★
    6* sig 20
    5*s are the present but 6*s are the future it’s a pretty easy decision really
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Posts: 7,170 ★★★★★
    My 6s is unawakened so I took my 5 star to max rank.
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Posts: 4,139 ★★★★★
    6* sig 20
    His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    Sarvanga1_ said:

    His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

    ^
  • PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
    Sarvanga1_ said:

    His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

    You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though
  • magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    6* sig 20
    At sig 20 he has 50.7% crit chance. At sig 200 he has 61.5% crit chance. You're only losing out on roughly 1 crit every 10 hits if you rank up the 6*
  • PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
    magnus_xix said:

    At sig 20 he has 50.7% crit chance. At sig 200 he has 61.5% crit chance. You're only losing out on roughly 1 crit every 10 hits if you rank up the 6*

    Where are you getting those numbers from? On Auntmai, The graph of the sig looks linear with a slope of 6 meaning higher sig should make a noticable difference
  • SungjSungj Posts: 2,111 ★★★★★
    GagoH said:



    Where are you getting those numbers from? On Auntmai, The graph of the sig looks linear with a slope of 6 meaning higher sig should make a noticable difference

    Diminishing returns. Even though the graph on auntmai shows a steep curve it's not actually representative of the in game effect. I haven't seen the calculations but people have roughly figured out how crit rate numbers translate to crit percentage with diminishing returns and those numbers seem pretty believable to me.
  • Mother_FlerkenMother_Flerken Posts: 508 ★★★
    6* sig 20
    Calculator: https://champions.azurewebsites.net/stats

    Let's assume Falcon is a 6* R2 against a challenger rating on 120.

    Mastery setup let's assume 1 in lesser precision and 5 in precision for 450 crit rate boost.

    Falcon has a base crit rate of 817 (28%)

    Sig 20 adds 755.02 crit rate.

    So 817 + 450 + 755.02 = 2,022.2 (49.1%)

    Sig 200 adds 1861.69 crit rate

    So 817 + 450 + 1861.69 = 3,128.69 (59.8%)


    Difference of 10.7% crit rate between sig 20 and 200 Falcon at r2.
  • PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
    Mattyy said:

    Calculator: https://champions.azurewebsites.net/stats

    Let's assume Falcon is a 6* R2 against a challenger rating on 120.

    Mastery setup let's assume 1 in lesser precision and 5 in precision for 450 crit rate boost.

    Falcon has a base crit rate of 817 (28%)

    Sig 20 adds 755.02 crit rate.

    So 817 + 450 + 755.02 = 2,022.2 (49.1%)

    Sig 200 adds 1861.69 crit rate

    So 817 + 450 + 1861.69 = 3,128.69 (59.8%)


    Difference of 10.7% crit rate between sig 20 and 200 Falcon at r2.

    Oh wow so he doesn’t even really benefit that much at high sig
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Posts: 4,139 ★★★★★
    6* sig 20
    GagoH said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

    You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though
    No
  • PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
    @magnus_xix @Mattyy



    My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

    What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

  • MrInsanityMrInsanity Posts: 1,539 ★★★★
    6* sig 20
    GagoH said:

    Sarvanga1_ said:

    His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

    You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though
    No.
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Posts: 1,660 ★★★★
    GagoH said:

    @magnus_xix @Mattyy



    My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

    What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

    For the 5* you can get half the crit benefit just by taking him to 47 sig level. That’s what I did - half the benefit for less than a quarter the investment is a no brainer.
  • magnus_xixmagnus_xix Posts: 2,020 ★★★★★
    6* sig 20
    GagoH said:

    @ magnus_xix @ Mattyy



    My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

    What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

    Yes his sig scales up pretty much the same for the 5* and 6*.
  • PolygonPolygon Posts: 3,827 ★★★★★
    Cool, thanks lads.

    Sucks my 6* is unduped, got a skill t5cc ready for either him or fury once I dupe one of them
  • Fiesty_ForeskinFiesty_Foreskin Posts: 57 ★


    I've played him at all sig levels, the 5 and 6 star but mostly the 6 in the last half year. The numbers work out to say 10%, but man I'm telling ya it's very noticeable imo. Ever since taking him to 200, AW fights are over in a snap, and damn near everything crits. It wasn't like this when he was sig 90 at all.
  • Fiesty_ForeskinFiesty_Foreskin Posts: 57 ★
    If you have the stones and hes a go to for you, I say it's worth it 100% to pump him full. If you don't use him in AW pretty much every war like I do, maybe stop at like 60
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