New Arena Structure Feedback

Broken · May 2021

GoodBye Kabam you guys give us reason to quit

OliverJW · May 2021

Completely disappointed with these milestones in the arena, I hope you will hear us and improve as these new milestones became extremely abusive.
As a player who doesn't have that much time to play and I set aside time when I'm away from work I'm always doing the 4 * basic and 4 * featured arenas.
Rewards:
4 * basic - 135units per 1.5M
4 * featured - 135units per 4M.
So I reconciled some hours of the day and made 270 units per arena before this change.
Now it was completely impossible to do that, I would only be able to make the crystal arena by earning half of what I had before.
Please decrease the milestones of the basic 6 * arena to at least 6M considering that we will be able to use the 6 *.

pete8388 · May 2021

I used to put up 6 million in 5* featured with my 6 stars, 4 million in 4* featured with my 5 stars, and 1.5 million in 4* basic with my 4 stars for roughly 350 units. Now all of that effort combined won’t even make the 16.5 million new milestone of the new arenas.

I am not sure I would be able to work out the same balance in the new arenas. Especially with the units increasing with the higher milestones.

Kavya30 · May 2021

Now the only thing keeping me in the game is 7.2 next week, for which the rewards are still meh. Why guys why

pseudosane · May 2021

@Kabam Miike anyone with a calculator/graduated middle school and can count will tell you that the effort between the old arenas and new are quite different.
I am giving this a shot, i will give my full feedback after 3 days.

Okbutwhy · May 2021

having a newer account with a very limited amount of ranked up 5* and only a couple 6*, and only a handful of ranked 4*, I am getting extremely hard suicide matches around the 5-10 streak rounds. When I bring 2 rank 1 6* and a 4* rank 1, and i'm pitted against 3 6* rank 3, thats a bit much.

Also, this might be the reason I no longer pay for the sigil, as I would get a lot of PHC shards and use them in the black market iso store weekly to try to get better crystals, unless the sigil store will start including the grandmaster shards.

Kavya30 · May 2021

Guys come on, why the merge man?

The_Sentry06 · May 2021

I never used to grind arena before and this has killed any hope and anticipation I had.

I personally would just lower the milestones across the board to something way lower or at the very least, increase the unit payout at lower milestones significantly.

Julio_Vega1 · May 2021

Nope... Points are still the same

No increase

Stagedear85 · May 2021

I usually don't grind for champs just milestones for units and battle chips , and this is just wrong I'm sorry but i don't see how this is fair to players who are free to play and just want to grind milestones and not for champs. Arena was a way for me to grind for units to help clear content but i really don't think this was the right way to go about it, please lower the milestone rewards for units/Battlechips to maybe 10.5 to 12 million per arena.

Julio_Vega1 · May 2021

And the cooldown stays the same

Masterpuff · May 2021

I used to so the 4* basic, 4* featured, 5* featured, and the 3* featured all milestones. Now, i will be doing one 6* arena and maybe summoner trials. No one wants to put up 33 million collective across two arenas with 456*s.

Kavya30 · May 2021

Julio_Vega1 said:

Nope... Points are still the same

No increase

Let’s cry together 🥲

ArcticWolf2 · May 2021

To increase rewards : set/round I think it'd be best to lower the milestones for the 6 star ones(5 mil points for highest milestones) to adjust with the rarity of higher 5/6*s and put a 3 star at 500k and 4 star at 1mil to reduce stress if ppl want to get a new champ to try out and let the competitive ppl do grind out for a 5/6* if they want

Snags78 · May 2021

You had one job enjoyable gameplay way to drop the ball with this garbage as if the lag and game stabilities werent bad enough you give us this trash alternative to arenas thanks kabam for making the game worse instead of improving it

MrInsanity · May 2021

Masterpuff said:
I used to so the 4* basic, 4* featured, 5* featured, and the 3* featured all milestones. Now, i will be doing one 6* arena and maybe summoner trials. No one wants to put up 33 million collective across two arenas with 456*s.

Yeah that's the thing I don't get. Only like .1% of the playerbase can even benefit from doing both of the 6* arenas.

Levvyzz_OP · May 2021

pseudosane said:
@Kabam Miike anyone with a calculator/graduated middle school and can count will tell you that the effort between the old arenas and new are quite different.
I am giving this a shot, i will give my full feedback after 3 days.

I'm giving it a shot too, but with abacus and kindergarden degree I can still tell you this is ridiculous hahaha. Don't expect much. Hoping for emergency maintenance rollback and reset.

Pulyaman · May 2021

This does not even factor in the catalyst arena running every 3 days. 1 step forward and 2 steps back as usual Kabam.

Ajaxifer · May 2021

I want to share an idea

What if the new arena points were like Doubloons Arena? It would be great for players that don't have wide 6* rosters cause all of champs gets the same X amount of points and there was no infinite streak.

I don't know maybe it's asking too much and it might make the rank rewards to go high but for a milestone grabber it would be amazing to have the same mechanism as Doubloons Arena in this arenas as well
And it will give more choice for those who want to grab the 6* and 5* versions of champion to go with which champion they want to focus and play all of their roster on that arena which makes it kinda unfair for those who doesn't have wider rosters but it will be more fair for those who just want to grab milestones that in this case are a lot of playerbase kinda. it would give those with wider roster advantages that they have already but it will give adventage to those who doesn't have wide roster as well so it will be more sufficent.

Btw I'm not saying that every round should give us 45000 points like Doubloons Arena cause it would take 366 round but if 167 round of using only 6* Champs is the requirment to get all the milestones maybe if 30000 point per champ and 90000 per round will make it 167 round but still it's a lot of time

Owzitgarn · May 2021

Absolutely hate it

With old arena I could use my 2*s to max out one arena
My 3*s to max out another arena
My 4*s to max out a third arena
My 5*s to hit millstones in a 4th arena
As each star rating went on cool down I could move to the next

You could do multiple milestones in multiple arenas in between cooldowns

I don't want to grind just 1 arena, it makes it an actual grind

There was more a sense of accomplishment hitting multiple millstones in multiple arenas

Now it's just a big slog to try and hit higher milestones for less rewards in one arena

2 and 3*s are virtually useless now, using them will make it even more of a grind with less chance of hitting milestones

It was the same grind in the old arenas but you were hiring milestones all the time...it felt more worth it

Death matches are going to make trying the other 2 arenas pointless for anyone who doesn't have a large number of high ranked 5*s

So less achievable milestones, more time to hit them, less rewards, and much more boring....totally hate it

KnightZero · May 2021

Pulyaman said:
This does not even factor in the catalyst arena running every 3 days. 1 step forward and 2 steps back as usual Kabam.

More like 1 step forward and 5 steps back

Kitten07 · May 2021

GUYS DID U NOTICE WHAT KABAM IS DOING ....WRITE THOSE LONG POSTS SO THAT PEOPLE CANT SEE ALL BAD COMMENTS...what a strategy

Agent_X_zzz · May 2021

The changes are meh lol, how is this a qol change? but thank you kabam now I have no incentive to do arena

Chayan22 · May 2021

If kabam had launched these arena before may. I would have sold my 90% 3* and 2* champs. These changes are bad. They are saying if you don't have huge 6* roster you have no chance to get all the arena points. And also kabam is implying don't grind for for units we won't give u enough.
It would be far better if old arena have 20 milestones. And they just launch new arena for 6*. And add rework champ as middle rank rework. And featured champ as top rank reward.

Levvyzz_OP · May 2021

Awawag said:

Kabam Miike said:

Kavya30 said:
16.5M for one is too much and I am a milestone grinder. I will not be able to grind for 33M. Just can’t. As an FTP, guess my hopes for July 4th are in the trash
I'm Curious: Prior to these Changes, how many Milestones across all of the Arenas did you used to complete? If you don't remember that, do you remember how many Units approx you'd earn from Milestones per Arena run?

Our goal is to keep the effort roughly the same, but of course, with reducing the number of Arenas, that's going to be difficult. With the change of the rarities allowed in each Arena, the points are definitely going to be different, but we want to keep the effort roughly the same.

If that's not the case, we want to know! We won't know that on the first day or possibly even the first run, but please keep the feedback coming.
Everyone is talking about the new 6* arenas, which is great, but I want to speak up for the little guys as well. I personally have not yet made it to uncollected. I play arena to collect units and shards to improve my roster, but this change has made it harder to do so. There are no 5* shards in summoner trials, AT ALL! Not in the milestones, not in the rank rewards. How does this assist us in becoming uncollected faster?

You wanted actual numbers for comparison? Well here you go, I specifically made an excel file to keep track of my arena rewards from prior to the change, knock yourself out.

Old Arena System
4* Feature Arena: Up to the 650k milestone
4* Basic Arena: All milestones
3* Arena: up to the 320k milestone
Summoner Trials: 90k milestone
Grand Total: 232 units, 26600 shards, 25850 battle chips
Total points: 650k+1.5mm+320k+90k = 2.56mm points

New Arena System
Summoner Trials: All milestones
Grand Total: 140 units, 14000 Shards, 15750 battle chips
Total points: 2.15mm points

This is roughly half of the total milestone rewards from before for almost same amount of arena points. How does this make sense to you.

It's great that you are looking for feedback, but the fact that Kabam thought this was a change for the better shows just how disconnected you guys are from the player base.

That is great, but wait till you figure out you need to spend MORE time for LESS rewards.. hahaha. More is less sometimes I guess... More happy 1% top tier players, way way less actual player base.

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