Does Dexterity Count as Two Buffs?

Hoitado · June 2021

So when I was Fighting Mister Sinister I de es back because of Reflexes and got Dexterity Precision Buff and it added 1 Charge to the E.M.P Mod but when I hit the opponent while I still had the buff it added another Charge.

You can see this also in Incursions with Buff Cornucopia.

Why is is like this and does it count as two buffs when it is just one?

Crcrcrc · June 2021

It’s a frozen buff when you gain it, and becomes a normal buff when you hit. The same interaction happens with buffet, where you can trigger it with dexterity both by gaining it, and hitting while it’s frozen

DawsMan · June 2021

Yes, this has been a mechanic for a long time. The thing is it's an indefinite buff that only affects your champion when contact is made. So there is the initial triggering, the buff being added to your character. Then when you make contact, the buffs attributes are used, the buff is 'triggered' and that's why there is a 'double' trigger or effect.

Here before DNA makes a page and a half long extensive post that will put my description to shame.

Hoitado · June 2021

Well that’s kind of dumb considering almost no other buffs work that way but it is what it is

DawsMan · June 2021

Hoitado said:
Well that’s kind of dumb considering almost no other buffs work that way but it is what it is

Well, I think it's because it's on a timer. Most indefinite buffs trigger, then disappear. Dexterity triggers then acts like a normal buff that has a timer. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than that and even as I explain it I can feel that I'm missing smt but that's to the best of my knowledge.

Will3808 · June 2021

It’s really weird. Dex is one buff but it triggers as two for multiple nodes; once when you dash back and get the buff and again when you hit the opponent and the timer starts till when the buff falls off. I didn’t know emp modification acted like that, but things like buffet that trigger when you get a buff can trigger and then retrigger if you wait until the timer resets to hit the opponent. Don’t know why this is the case but that’s how dex works for some reason.

BitterSteel · June 2021

It’s because this was the way they chose to fix the mystic dispersion problem years back. Before retriggering dex fueled Md like anything

Kill_Grey · June 2021

BitterSteel said:
It’s because this was the way they chose to fix the mystic dispersion problem years back. Before retriggering dex fueled Md like anything

Ah yes... good ol' Dormammu bosses on the old war map.

BitterSteel · June 2021

Kill_Grey said:

BitterSteel said:
It’s because this was the way they chose to fix the mystic dispersion problem years back. Before retriggering dex fueled Md like anything
Ah yes... good ol' Dormammu bosses on the old war map.

The horror of accidentally properly dexing instead of shallow dexing, then watching your opponents power bar go from 1 to 3.5, and your health tick down.

Kill_Grey · June 2021

Zan0 said:

Kill_Grey said:

BitterSteel said:
It’s because this was the way they chose to fix the mystic dispersion problem years back. Before retriggering dex fueled Md like anything
Ah yes... good ol' Dormammu bosses on the old war map.
And all the magik mini bosses oh god

BitterSteel said:

Kill_Grey said:

BitterSteel said:
It’s because this was the way they chose to fix the mystic dispersion problem years back. Before retriggering dex fueled Md like anything
Ah yes... good ol' Dormammu bosses on the old war map.
The horror of accidentally properly dexing instead of shallow dexing, then watching your opponents power bar go from 1 to 3.5, and your health tick down.

Good thing I was doing war at like the lowest tier back then

. People would rarely place with MD, or have a way to awaken Magik and dorm since it was so hard to do so back in the day.

Does Dexterity Count as Two Buffs?

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