**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
6* AG is unfair.
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Its about working and earning those AGs.. there were so many given this year alone.
I also made the point that well if you are a collector of silver stars and want them all dup thats the way you like playing the game.
There NEVER WAS A GOLD SALE EITHER, but a lot of people didnt complain about it... A few did same as now.
If we are only going to play a game based on precedents there wouldnt be anything new...
It is narcisistic to think hey its unfair cause i cant get it.. so what would have been a fair price? I remind you that the base price of an 6* AG is finishing the abyss or a paywall of 15k+ units.. so what is a fair price? 4.. 3 generic AGs?... Maybe the exact ammount that you have to be able to get it?
Wanna talk about skill? I dont think there is any skill in slapping an awakening gem on every piece of 5*.... Specially when the game is taking the direction of giving you 5* as iso banks.
Just by finishing act 3 u get a 5* for free on this anniversary calendar... And end game players are complaining cause they spent every AG? 🤣
Also they did imply that they were going to try and have an updated roadmap sometime this month but usually those road maps are featured posts on the forums, so on that front we're just stuck waiting for an answer.
Skill was mentioned earlier regarding how this "cost" (5 generic 5* AG) isn't relievable, earnable (can't be grinded for, like gold or units). It comes down to who hoarded AGs- whether due to being a big spender (who rarely/never relied on AGs), or accounts who only using 1 or 2 AGs in one's 4+ year playing this game.
This makes it remarkably different than the gold tradein event.
No one is arguing here for or against, "always follow the precedent." Regarding new content.
Any new concepts/ideas should be met with scrutiny, as players have been showing here. You ask, "what is a fair price?" Yet try to dismiss people's complaint that the price this time is too high this time, because AGs weren't marketed as a currency to be hoarded.
Funny how you mention the 6* AG "paywall" aspect from abyss, but you forget abyss is permanent content. Moreover, you fail to account that as time progresses, items devalue, so why shouldn't players not want their opinions dismissed, especially if it's a majority. How much an item devalues is debatable, but is worth discussing.
1) AGs are finite compared to gold/units. Players can't earn more AGs currently before tradein event ends. They can grind other currencies.
2) Players feelings of frustration are valid here, and people dismissing them as narcissistic and their opinions invalid haven't shown how it is such, but rather the contrary.
3) there are many players who hoarded AGs, yet used 1 or 2 generic AGs, and are still barred from this tradein 5* AGs for 1 6* AG crystal. Your weird statement of end game players complaining unfair because they uses most of their 5* AG doesn't apply to many here who have voiced their complaints.
4) AGs were never marketed as a tradein item/currency, so why should players be punished for not treating it as a currency?
5) there are some players saying, they should hoard everything, because what other future items they currently have can become a currency? That's a valid concern for non-big spenders.
I meant the Gold sale they had where u could get a bunch of stuff for 6 million gold...they didnt announce it.. a lot of people missed out..
YOUR POINTS
1- Never talked about gold trade... The point of the GOLD SALE was to compare it to the fact that both events were never announced prior or never happened before.
2- Frustration, anger is valid, sucks to be left out. Fairness on the other hand?..just because they can't get it its not fair? So what would a fair price be?.. the one that they can afford?...
3- I dont understand why "Endgame" players would be using AGs on absolutely everything...I'll give u a few examples from this post only... People used AGs on Sigil SW...its their own choice and i respect it.. Dont call an event unfair cause u used your resouces as u wished and now you can't afford the other. Its the way life works..
4- AG were never marketed as trade.. TRUE, there is a first time for everything!... Nexus 6* crystals were never sold for gold... Did people complain about this?.. yes only the ones that didnt get a warning to pre farm gold... Did they announce such thing?. No
This was announced a few days ago, announcing it didnt help cause its not something that u could have farmed. So what would have been a fair timeframe to announce a first time event?..
5- Hoarding.. do you really think that when Kabam talks about the issue of hoarding, they are talking about an item that stacks in 5?... A rare item that u were able to get 1 per month maybe?...
The only aspect of this whole post that i would agree to would be the fact that u should be able to trade 3 of any class for 1 Generic... Everything else i believe is fair
1) You quoted me talking about capacity limits, I wasn’t trying to reference just 5* ag even tho I poorly communicated that. I corrected it and meant any items that have capacity limits people tend to make attempts to keep the items from going into overflow especially low tier items like a 3* ag. Better to use it then let it expire away on item use goals.
2) kabam has made a ton of comments about hoarding being bad. The reasons have varied throughout the years. It started with the old 5* feature crystal, they specifically said hoarding was an unintended situation that was happening and trying to correct it. Since then many many comments from mods and developers have echoed the same.
3) yea you are toxic, you enter with a snarky comment. You continue to try to get a raise out of people using words like “crying”, “whining”, “emotional” and so on. I don’t see anyone in this thread being emotional but rather stating and voicing their concern on how they were playing the game to how they might have to change.
4) People saying they will hoard better isn’t a threat. As you have mentioned countless times “empty threats”. If people weren’t able to take advantage of this trade in store then it’s completely normal of people to want to change their ways to better their game. Only problem here is it doesn’t align with the way you play the game so they are wrong or using threats.
5) I really think you need to reassess your time on the forums. People can be wrong, people can voice their problems or concerns without it being “whiny”. It’s you that reads it that way. Text it easy to misinterpret, and if you are always on the negative side of what people are saying then it’s you that has a problem. Let people be wrong or emotional, how does it effect you?
"Well dang, didn't see this coming.. missed a 6 star AG. Who knew there would be such punishing consequences for using my outdated rank up gems? Ok, apparently there's no real way to tell what will be valuable in future events. And I guess that means the only safe thing to do is assume *all* resources could be subject to this in the future."
1- U can farm it... Solo crystals give AGs from 2-4 u can trade up to 5*... Read a lot of people sold those for gold...🤣
2- of course u would call 3 a fair price is what u can afford.. the u would have people with 2 making the same argument 🤣
3- we might agree on this
4- AGs can't be farmed continuously correct, the trade up allows u to "try" to fill in the gaps if u r close.. yes it is RNG based... That sucks ..but people as i said before... 2-3-4 star AGs were sold for gold...bad move...
5- Once again.. an item that stacks at max 5 is not really hoarding...Doubt Kabam thinks AG is an item that can be Hoarded since it is a pretty big item that should be used with a lot of thought, and not slapped on any champ u pull...
Even if I had 1000 4* AGs I could still only trade them in for 5 chances at the 5* AG I needed.
There aren't many places to get generic gems in the game. For 6* gems it's even more of a rare occurrence.
You don't hear anyone having issues about having to work for them. I really don't see how that is hard for you to understand.
Farming solo shards will do nothing if you hit your limit.
1) There's a limit of acquiring 5* AGs (even trading 4* AG to 5* AG crystal, there is a limit). No one is arguing about 4* AGs.
2) I never used the word fair to describe it. But of course anything cheaper than the current 5 5* generic AGs is better for the average player.
3) Ok we agree here.
4) Nothing wrong with selling 2 and 3* AG for gold. Plus it's easy to acquire these from solo crystals, which can be traded up for a 4* AG.
5) Ok I agree. It's nice you recognize that Kabam already has built-in mechanisms to prevent hoarding certain items (item storage limit). Don't see how your point was against my 5th point.
And about a lot of people willing to work for it..there is a lot of people that in the last months didnt even wanna bother with EQ, SQ, objectives and so on.. does this mean that they would have the resources to trade if they did?.. hard to tell its based on RNG.. but there was a lot of generic AGs in the last couple of months.
They have communicated about summer of pain so we held out resources to rank the best champs.
They have communicated about the 2 month side event( which was the worst BTW) so we did the event so next month we could get better rewards.
They told us about the new 1v1 challenge so people are getting prepared for that.
Kabam even prevented us selling champs to get us prepared to use our entire roster , so it wasn't a SOL situation.
How can u compare an event that you have to fight and get rewards to a trade store ..
How did u rank the best champs when they didn't announce the fights and nodes?...
How do u prepare for 1v1?....All u did is see a format on the showdown...u still dont know how its gonna work...
The weeks leading up to SOP was worth 1 gold only and the fights were tough.
Let's say you decided to skip all 11 weeks, because it's a waste of time.
Now imagine the day the big event drops you find you aren't eligible for the rewards because you skipped the other weeks.
Everyone knew that they had to continue or else they would miss out on rewards.
And u still failed to explain to me HOW you ranked up your best champions when EVERY FIGHT was announced on release date except for the last one that had all the fights combined?..
I didn't say anyone was ranking , I said people were getting prepared. There are multiple people that are starting to think about the 1v1 . Also, Kabam said they would look similar to the showdown.
18 3* class ag for 9 generic 3*( had 3 generic already)
12 generic 3* for 4 4* class crystals
8 4* class ag for 4 generic 4*( had 2 already)
6 4* generic for 2 5* class crystals
After spinning
2 cosmic
3 tech
2 skill
3 science
2 mystic
And 2 generic 5*
So
18 3* class
3 3* generic
4 4* class
2 4* generic
10 5* class
2 5* generic
And 9 3-4 I can’t trade
The 48 gems I started with Don’t equal 1 6* class crystal
I can make 4 5* generic and have 3 classes that are 1 away from trading for a 5th generic 5*!
There’s no way to get more, but I find it pretty stupid that 12 5* class and 2 generic can’t get the 6* crystal.
As for all the people that are trolling and saying that people who’ve beaten all the content of the game should have enough to trade in. It’s obvious you’re not at that level or you’d know how RNG functions and the odds of having the right combinations of gems AND LUCK!!!
@Kabam Miike was this truly intended to be this unlikely???
If Kabam was smart they’d drop some limit 3 awakening gem offers for 3* 4* and 5* class gems. Or drop some selector offers.
They said they stopped announcing the Featured because they didn't want to PROMOTE hoarding. Not that they wanted to stop people from doing it. That's not a thing.