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6* AG is unfair.

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  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
  • VedisukeVedisuke Posts: 166 ★★
    :'(
  • BocksaroxBocksarox Posts: 329 ★★★
    I personally think it would be cool if the five 5* generic AGs for one 6* class AG trade was made permanent with a one time purchase limit. Then, it would be cool if Kabam released extra 5* generic AGs over the next few months for players to either collect their generic gems for the trade or replenish the gems that they just spent.

    How hard would it be to remove the timer and move that trade over to the Featured tab in the store?
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
  • Le_GentlemanLe_Gentleman Posts: 34 ★
    Le_Gentleman said:

    I personally have 12 5* awakening gems, 4 generic and 8 spread around other classes, how is it fair that i cannot form a single 6* awakening crystal while i see countless people form one easily?

    To further prove your point, what you said is very close to my own situation, i could easily open another 4 ag crystals and still not be able to form the last generic i need (which realistically i can't) right now i'm exploring a variant just to get one extra shot.
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    PUDENGU said:

    The fact that this type of “problem” is still occurring 7 years in just shows the lack of progress as a company on Kabam’s part.
    Why complicate things by having to trade 3 of the same class? 3 of any class would be a better trading cost.

    Its a high priced item, it should have its complications.
    Its like saying.. well its been 7 years i dont understand why units are still worth 99 dollars for 3100...
    Its been 7 years why should i run abyss to get a 6* AG....
    I still think it should have been gated to TB, probably 40% of the responses on this thread wouldn't exist if it was gated
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    pseudosane said:

    Coppin said:

    PUDENGU said:

    The fact that this type of “problem” is still occurring 7 years in just shows the lack of progress as a company on Kabam’s part.
    Why complicate things by having to trade 3 of the same class? 3 of any class would be a better trading cost.

    Its a high priced item, it should have its complications.
    Its like saying.. well its been 7 years i dont understand why units are still worth 99 dollars for 3100...
    Its been 7 years why should i run abyss to get a 6* AG....
    I still think it should have been gated to TB, probably 40% of the responses on this thread wouldn't exist if it was gated
    My man. Most, if not all, are TB players who has been posting these negative reviews. Please go ahead and post your profile and let the responders judge you to your aggression.
    There was a Lvl 45 asking why he couldnt see the item 🤣
    And i dont know what agression u r talking about.. if i had been aggresive im pretty sure my posts would have been deleted.
    Yeah i know im in Jail but its for another thing 🤣
  • King_SternyKing_Sterny Posts: 58 ★
    edited December 2021
    It would have been nice if you you could mix and match class AGs.
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    I ended it with him yesterday
  • DawsManDawsMan Posts: 2,139 ★★★★★
    edited December 2021
    Texas_11 said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    I ended it with him yesterday
    His point still stands. Even though it's over it doesn't mean the interaction didn't happen and what anyone said was appropriate...
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
  • Texas_11Texas_11 Posts: 2,638 ★★★★★
    DawsMan said:

    Texas_11 said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    I ended it with him yesterday
    His point still stands. Even though it's over it doesn't mean the interaction didn't happen and what you said was appropriate...
    I didn't say anything to him, just know that he is not being friendly.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    thepiggy said:

    @Kabam Miike

    Many traded in a 6* class gem but got the same class back. Why wasn't that class excluded from the RNG like the T4C trade in crystal in the Special tab?

    If this happened to anyone, can you remove it from their accounts and send us another 6* AG crystal with that class withdrawn? I'm sure can be done.

    Send anyone who got a duplicate gem a token with the option to switch. If they accept the token Kabam removes their gem and gives them another AG crystal. This would go a long way.

    What? Why? If your request is to include an exclusive crystal next time, it makes sense. But crystal that excludes one class even for catalysts, require two of that item. Why would any one trade 2 6* class gems for 1?

    It was never advertised as a different class gem so why should they send you another just because you didnt get the class you wanted?
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
    If you care that much for 5* generics, you may not have been the target audience for the 6* gem. Are you TB?
    Yes i am with 14 r3s...
    Why would i have so many 5* AGs otherwise?.. cause i dont use them...
    Bottom line of the Argument?...
    People are complaining about not being able to get it THEIR WAY, while i am argueing about getting it the right way...
    People ask to "change" or "bend" the rules of the event.. and call it FAIR
  • JadedJaded Posts: 5,476 ★★★★★
    Coppin said:

    pseudosane said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
    If you care that much for 5* generics, you may not have been the target audience for the 6* gem. Are you TB?
    Yes i am with 14 r3s...
    Why would i have so many 5* AGs otherwise?.. cause i dont use them...
    Bottom line of the Argument?...
    People are complaining about not being able to get it THEIR WAY, while i am argueing about getting it the right way...
    People ask to "change" or "bend" the rules of the event.. and call it FAIR
    “Rules” in a mobile game are arbitrary, kabam can do what they want when they want. All we can do is adjust with it. That’s as fair as it gets.
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
    Well you used the words “selfish” and “self cantered”. Your posts have been very aggressive out of everyone that is posting you seem the most emotional in the discussion. This is the forums, and having discussion are part of it but they can end as well. You don’t have to have the last word, that won’t make your points invalid if someone else continues speaking. There are definitely a ton of different views on the topic. Suggestions being made could impact others on how they approached the trade in originally compared to how they would have after (if there are changes). That doesn’t mean people asking for a change don’t have valid points as well as those that don’t want change. Petty arguments back and forth is all that is happening.

    Time to move on and see if kabam does anything or not.
    I am not trying to have the last word, I am just expressing my opinion.
    Yes they have called me selfish and self centered.. greedy as well... By people asking to bend the rules...which is hilarious and hypocritical...
    The person who plays and abides by the rules is selfish but the ones asking for the rules to be changed for their own gain are samaritans?..
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    thepiggy said:

    AverageDesi said:

    thepiggy said:

    @Kabam Miike

    Many traded in a 6* class gem but got the same class back. Why wasn't that class excluded from the RNG like the T4C trade in crystal in the Special tab?

    If this happened to anyone, can you remove it from their accounts and send us another 6* AG crystal with that class withdrawn? I'm sure can be done.

    Send anyone who got a duplicate gem a token with the option to switch. If they accept the token Kabam removes their gem and gives them another AG crystal. This would go a long way.

    What? Why? If your request is to include an exclusive crystal next time, it makes sense. But crystal that excludes one class even for catalysts, require two of that item. Why would any one trade 2 6* class gems for 1?

    It was never advertised as a different class gem so why should they send you another just because you didnt get the class you wanted?
    It's a 1-1 trade in. 1 6* class for 1 random crystal. It just makes sense not include the same class you traded in.
    Actually it does not. You're spending something and getting something of greater value through zero effort.
  • CoppinCoppin Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    pseudosane said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
    If you care that much for 5* generics, you may not have been the target audience for the 6* gem. Are you TB?
    Yes i am with 14 r3s...
    Why would i have so many 5* AGs otherwise?.. cause i dont use them...
    Bottom line of the Argument?...
    People are complaining about not being able to get it THEIR WAY, while i am argueing about getting it the right way...
    People ask to "change" or "bend" the rules of the event.. and call it FAIR
    “Rules” in a mobile game are arbitrary, kabam can do what they want when they want. All we can do is adjust with it. That’s as fair as it gets.
    Well 17 pages of complaining about not being able to get an item.. or change the ways to get the item is not really "adjusting" is it?...
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,234 ★★★★★
    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    pseudosane said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    Jaded said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:

    cookiedealer said:

    Coppin said:



    cookiedealer said:

    Thank you Kabam for even providing the trade in store. Although not everyone can get lucky this time around, please consider bringing back something similar in the future.

    It's understandable why there's a limited number of chances for a 6* AG reroll. (The store wasn't intended to allow unlimited limit, which would give way to 100% of players with 6* AG to turn it to whatever class they'd like).

    This thread has been pointing out how the pricing of 5 5* generic AGs for 1 6* AG crystal, probably is too pricy for most players, especially with the limit on trading 4* generic AGs for 5* AG crystal.

    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal.

    Its mathemarically impossible to have 15+ AG of different classes and not be able to trade for a generic...
    Regarding "mathematically impossible":

    3 generics AGs
    2 AG of every class = 12 class AGs
    That's 15.
    Even if you throw in, say
    3 AGs of a single class, ie. cosmic = 3 cosmic class AGs, you end up with

    18 AGs total and still not enough to trade in.

    Oh wait there's more.
    What if a long time player used 2 generic AGs, and only has 2 generic AGs left?

    They still can't trade for the 6* AG crystal with 15+ AGs..

    He said 15+ AG who are MISSING 1 GEN AG

    So u need 1...
    6 classes worst case scenario 2 per.. = 12
    What are the remaining 3+
    I also pointed out
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to have 15+ ag of DIFFERENT CLASSES and not be able to trade for 1...
    Generic is not a class is it?
    "It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    I don't see the word "class" here..

    Nor does it say, 1 5* generic AG away "before making trades", with their 15+ 5* AGs.

    As usual, you misrepresent what other people say/argue about.
    Dude.. seriously?
    It's pricy to the point that there are players who are sitting on 15+ 5* AG who are 1 5* generic AG away from trading for a 6* AG crystal."

    WHO ARE 1 GENERIC AWAY...
    Now use your brain why would u be counting the 4 Generics u have along the 15+ others when u r missing one?
    He should have said people who have 4 Generics and sitting on X value...
    And worse case scenario I SAID IF U HAVE 15+ CLASS ones.. I SAID IT... Then U magically converted my 15+ CLASS ONES into 3 or 4 Generics... So who is really misrepresenting to make it suitable to his own argument?
    You’re getting a bit too worked up over this. He didn’t say class, you over spoke and misread what he said. Your point has been made, you don’t agree with people. Okay, move along, the arguing isn’t going to do anything.
    Are a mod?... Why are u telling me to move on?..My argument is simple and goes with the title of this thread.. the 6* AG trade is Fair
    I'm not getting worked up.. why would I . I traded up 5 of my Generics.. not thru RNG not thru anything else than saving them ..
    You need a mod to explain to you that you’re being aggressive and abusive in your text? How else would you like to say you don’t agree people? No? Nothing new to add? Then you’re just here to argue with people with the same context as the last post. It’s pointless and redundant, so from one person to another person just give up. You won’t change their minds and they won’t change yours. That’s completely acceptable.
    Its a discussion Forum, i have been called names, I didnt respond back the same way...yes u r right i am argueing... I am argueing because people are asking to bend rules that have been set. Whether kabam has to learn from this and change it the next time thats a different story.
    Now peoole want to exchange any class 3 AGs for 1 Generic?.. well guess what.. i would have use that trade and saved myself some generics wouldn't I?...
    So how is it fair for other people to exchange 1 of each class when i had to use my generics and sit on class ones i won't use.. on class ones that are less versatile?..
    Suddenly what seems fair for others is unfair for me who has met the requirements to complete the trade... And I am the selfish aggresive self centered person?... Seems funny...
    If you care that much for 5* generics, you may not have been the target audience for the 6* gem. Are you TB?
    Yes i am with 14 r3s...
    Why would i have so many 5* AGs otherwise?.. cause i dont use them...
    Bottom line of the Argument?...
    People are complaining about not being able to get it THEIR WAY, while i am argueing about getting it the right way...
    People ask to "change" or "bend" the rules of the event.. and call it FAIR
    “Rules” in a mobile game are arbitrary, kabam can do what they want when they want. All we can do is adjust with it. That’s as fair as it gets.
    Rules aren't arbitrary. They're used to ensure what's fair, as well as what's most protective for the design of The Contest. They're not just blindly made to the tastes of the Devs. The health of the game, the homeostasis and balance, the overall fairness towards the Players and the Event in question, all of these things go into making them. While there are times they can bend things to meet the expectations of Players, those situations still hinge on a number of other factors. I find it somewhat limited to consider they can just do whatever they want. There's more to it than that.
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