All about money..

AVIHEREAVIHERE Member Posts: 12
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How to get 4* new champ from every 150 unit crystal.. i know one player who spend more than 50k rupees in enery month.. he hv worst skill and need to buy unit every day.. bt he hv all new 4* character.. today he opend 3 crystal and got 3 new 4* champ.. 90% time he got 4* frm phc... so i think its all about your monthly money expenditure.. spend u lot.. and kabam gives u more chances to get 4* from phc and featured hero crystal...

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  • NEUROPLEXUSNEUROPLEXUS Member Posts: 92 ★
    i noticed a similar outcome. not as direct as getting all 3 phc's to yield 4* champs, but when the crystal shard offers came around i was very close to getting a new 4* so i decided to buy some credits and get the shard offers. i spent a good 20$, and keep in mind this is the first perchase ive made in game since i started about 6 months ago when i purchased 3* deadpool. anyway, most of what i got was premium shards, but when i popped the crystals tht came from all those shards i got 3 4* champs withing 7 phc. this is also the only time ive pulled 4* charactors from phc since around the time i started. so while i think it could just be a huge coincidence and im just looking into it too much, the odds are very much against me getting 4* from phc around the same time i spend real money in game
  • NEUROPLEXUSNEUROPLEXUS Member Posts: 92 ★
    tutyimutyi wrote: »
    The parrots are coming soon and they will say the same things,as usual and we will believe those words:nonspenders and spenders are having the same drop and this is just rng....

    yeah i agree, it is a bit conspiracy ish, ive just personally experienced a similar phenomena. we all have our little weird rituals and superstitions about the crystals. do you spin or pop? should you wait for the crystal to spin out or touch the screen? should you open crystals in bulk or one at a time as you get them? it most likely is just rng at its weirdest. but it is fun to speculate
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    For me,the opening rituals are useless,doesnt matter how i do.whenever i was paid in this game,i had a good drops,4* heroes from phc,good 4* and 5* heroes from the 4* and 5* crystals.time to time i stop to purchase things,because i get totally frustrated of the bugs and unfair things,than the bad drops are coming back.i do not mind whoever says what,it is the experience,totally obvious.if it is just me,i would say bad luck,but is not a bad luck,because everyone has the same around me,friends,alliance members.at least 90% of the nonspenders are having junk heroes,exept the crazy arena grinders.the random generator is way much different buds....
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    Btw,most of us doesnt mind to pay i guess,if the game is enjoyable and if we get a value for the money.that doesnt happen here
  • OnlyOneAboveAllOnlyOneAboveAll Member Posts: 389 ★★
    More you spend, better your odds. Doesn't mean much. You are increasing your odds on your own. It's nothing that Kabam is doing. You open more crystals the better the chance. Doesn't matter how you get the crystals. Pay real money or earn in game units. Same outcome.
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    We just wish that,but unfortunately not true
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    We all have the same drop rates, doesn't matter if you spend or not.
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    When you spend,even the phc drpos 4* as well.nonspender arena grinders are opening the same amount of phc,sometimes even more and they do not get 4* from them.very weird isnt it?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    What are you basing that on? Us spenders roll just as many 2*s. Trust me, it's not any better. I've been rolling Crystals for years.
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    I am in this game from the beginning too,i have rolked enough and i saw enough people rolling and as i said before,the drop rates is one of the main topics everywhere,on forums and on alliance chats as well.there is no proof for the same drops at all,no official announcment,no one shown the algorythm,which controls the rolling system here.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    They've said numerous times that the drop rates are not altered by spending. So have other Players who spend. I've spent a large enough amount, well into 4 figures. I average a 4* from PHC every couple months or so. Sometimes my luck is better. People have better luck. That's because it's random. RNG is random. There's no conspiracy.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    Hundreds alone on Featured Crystals. I've landed 2 Featured 4*s in the entire time playing. That's just how they roll. We all get unfavorable drops.
  • Nexus_UY_ScutiNexus_UY_Scuti Member Posts: 480 ★★
    tutyimutyi wrote: »
    How come the drop rates are not public?is there anything to hide?how come some people opens 4* heroes from every 30-40 phc and how come others do not open 4* from even 4-500 phc?there is a proof against the words of them.anyway,there is no point to talk more about this.this tricky sytem is a fact.i can say numerous times,whatever i want......

    That's like asking why somebody wins the lottery while others don't.

    Do you understand probability, at all?
  • Nexus_UY_ScutiNexus_UY_Scuti Member Posts: 480 ★★
    tutyimutyi wrote: »
    When you spend,even the phc drpos 4* as well.nonspender arena grinders are opening the same amount of phc,sometimes even more and they do not get 4* from them.very weird isnt it?

    Where have you learned that non-spending arena grinders open the same amount of crystals or even more?

    Logic dictates that spending money will result in you opening more PHC than those who don't.

    Do you think spenders don't grind arena? They grind arena PLUS buy crystals with units, hence they open more crystals.
  • tutyimutyitutyimutyi Member Posts: 326
    Manipulated probability,yes.with normal probability,everyone has the same chance,spenders and nonspenders as well.i used to be pretty good in math and in random calculation too.also i used to believe in santa claus and god too,when i was a child,for a while,but they are way better fairy tales.anyway,enough for today,it is my mistake always,when i read this forum.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    So, someone who buys more lottery tickets and increases their chances, indicates that the lottery is manipulated? They don't post the drop rates because it's their internal data, and they don't have to. That doesn't mean they're altering it. It's conspiracy, plain and simple. The rates are the same for everyone. It's an overwhelmingly difficult concept to create separate algorithms that are individual and/or based on outside factors such as spending habits. TL:DR - It's not happening. The server doesn't take into account the details of your Account when you access the pool of possibilities. It generates an outcome that is specific to that Crystal and nothing else.
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,233 ★★★★
    Laws are being passed in other countries to compelling them to share the odds. If you buy it...on a chance..it is gambling! And when you are gambling you have a right to know your odds. You buy a lotto and your odds are posted.
  • AshburnAshburn Member Posts: 270 ★
    The known fact is that it's completely rng. But based on my experience clicking open and spending a bit of money b4 opening the 4* crystals and PHCs does increase the odds of getting something good.

    Today I woke up to open a 4 star crystal. I was feeling sleepy so I accidentally pressed "open crystal" instead of spinning it which I usually do. Boom. Iceman. Last week, a 4* spark from a phc. All these openings were after I bought a tony stark to 100% goldblum
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    Rap wrote: »
    Laws are being passed in other countries to compelling them to share the odds. If you buy it...on a chance..it is gambling! And when you are gambling you have a right to know your odds. You buy a lotto and your odds are posted.

    Gambling in China has always been a sensitive subject in general. However, it is not gambling regardless because there is no monetary payout involved, or possibility thereof. You're leasing the right to use the digital property of Kabam. We don't own any part of the game. It's all in the TOS. They adhere to all applicable laws.
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  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Spenders get more 4* that is true but they also open a whole lot more crystals so the rates are still the same. I spend but I’ve never pulled a featured champ from the 100+ uncollected featured gmcs ive opened
  • chevchev Member Posts: 11
    edited November 2017
    It only "feels" that way. That guys spends everyday so he gets tons of crystals... that is why he has so many 4*'s. It is not hard to figure out. Also luck play a huge role being RNG... sometimes we have hot streaks and sometimes cold streaks where we only get 2*s. It si the same for everyone, the only difference is how many crystals per day you are opening IMO.

    Also if he buys a lot he probably buys 4* shard packs and such as well... so it is not hard to imagine.
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,845 Guardian
    tutyimutyi wrote: »
    When you spend,even the phc drpos 4* as well.nonspender arena grinders are opening the same amount of phc,sometimes even more and they do not get 4* from them.very weird isnt it?

    What I find weird is that for something that is supposed to be happening everywhere and is supposed to be dramatic enough to be very obvious to anyone paying attention, there's no video evidence of this massive probability skew anywhere that survives basic statistical analysis.

    Incidentally, in the last fifteen years the number of UFO sightings has significantly increased, but the number of sightings identified as a "shape" has plummeted, while the number of sightings described as "lights in the sky" has risen exponentially. Curiously, this parallels the popularity of digital cameras and especially camera phones, which do not capture "shapes" but do capture a lot of "lights in the sky."

    As soon as everyone on the planet could record them with smartphones or dashboard cameras, all the aliens stopped piloting flying saucers and traded them in for balls of light. That's a remarkable coincidence.
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