6* generic on knull/hype or shang chi? All can go to r3

CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
edited April 2022 in Strategy and Tips
Only have about 30 sig stones for whichever I pick
Post edited by Kabam Zanzibar on

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  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 10,897 ★★★★★
    Safe a generics personal way better then those for a generic
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    Interesting. 3 diff opinions so far lol let's see where this goes
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    Really can't decide :(
  • GinjabredMonstaGinjabredMonsta Member, Guardian Posts: 6,482 Guardian
    I'd say hype benefits the most from a sig than the others, but I'm not sure about shang chi since I don't have a higher rarity to use
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,116 ★★★★★
    Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    TyEdge said:

    Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.

    Yeah since there's only 8 days left of it I figure I'll wait to use the generic until after it's done cuz I'm spinning nothing but features till then. Knulls in it too
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    TyEdge said:

    Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.

    Also is 6* hype different then the 5 star in that I remember with the 5 star his best sig level was like 40
  • solopolosolopolo Member Posts: 888 ★★★
    @TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

    20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.
  • TheLegend27TheLegend27 Member Posts: 1,316 ★★★★★
    I wouldn't use a generic on any of them.
  • odishika123odishika123 Member Posts: 5,412 ★★★★★
    Hype
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  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    Still split
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  • PapaMidnite007PapaMidnite007 Member Posts: 1,622 ★★★★
    Shiang chi doesnt need it Knull doesnt need it but he goes to next level... Hyperion benefits the most at low sig so i would go with hyperion or knull. If you can try for featured before it expires good luck.
  • Strangecraft069Strangecraft069 Member Posts: 183 ★
    Not Shang chi
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,116 ★★★★★
    solopolo said:

    @TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

    20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.

    It’s not, and your numbers are wrong. He goes up to 75% at 200. People focus on multiples of 20 because that’s how many sigs you get for dupes.

    You’re asserting that there are diminishing returns beyond sig 20, which is true, but it starts way before that. And what you ignore is whether some/all of those sigs would be better used elsewhere, which is roster dependent. You’re unlikely to notice a difference between 65, 70 and 75% longer buffs.

    Here’s how it actually scales, though:

    Sig 1: 65.35
    Sig 6: 68.07 (.554% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 11: 69.1 (.206% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 16: 69.78 (.136% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 20: 70.19 (.1025% per stone for these 4 levels)

    To put it another way, you get the same increase for going from sig 1 to sig 5 that you get from going from 5 to 20. Whether that’s worth 15 stones or not (or whether you feel a need to operate in multiples of 20) is up to the user.
  • 13579rebel_13579rebel_ Member Posts: 2,790 ★★★★★
    use the gem on hype rank up knull or chi
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    TyEdge said:

    solopolo said:

    @TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

    20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.

    It’s not, and your numbers are wrong. He goes up to 75% at 200. People focus on multiples of 20 because that’s how many sigs you get for dupes.

    You’re asserting that there are diminishing returns beyond sig 20, which is true, but it starts way before that. And what you ignore is whether some/all of those sigs would be better used elsewhere, which is roster dependent. You’re unlikely to notice a difference between 65, 70 and 75% longer buffs.

    Here’s how it actually scales, though:

    Sig 1: 65.35
    Sig 6: 68.07 (.554% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 11: 69.1 (.206% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 16: 69.78 (.136% per stone for these 5 levels)
    Sig 20: 70.19 (.1025% per stone for these 4 levels)

    To put it another way, you get the same increase for going from sig 1 to sig 5 that you get from going from 5 to 20. Whether that’s worth 15 stones or not (or whether you feel a need to operate in multiples of 20) is up to the user.
    Thank you this helped
  • CreeseazCreeseaz Member Posts: 278 ★
    Should I save the gem?
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Member Posts: 2,183 ★★★★
    Do you run suicides most of the time? If you do, not sure I would make the investment in Hyperion. I’d probably save it in that case.

    If you don’t, then I would say keep trying to naturally dupe him from the featured then - if no luck - consider awakening him.

    Final thought - you might want to hold off till after Spring Cleaning (assuming it happens) in case there are some offers or new champs that give you some other options.
  • PowerOfACandlePowerOfACandle Member Posts: 334 ★★★
    I'd save it.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,127 ★★★★★
    I would save it but I normally wait a long time before using any gem unless its a gamechanging sig (like aegon or nick fury for example)

    I love hyperion but I don't think his sig is gamechanging.
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