Is Galan bugged?

Doctor Doom is is able to power control and stagger galan which is not supposed to happen, according to his kit.

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He is not immune to stagger, only nullify and fateseal.
He is also not immune to power steal, only burn lock, drain and special lock

Shep

@GrassKnuckles

What it states in both kits.

GrassKnuckles

@GrassKnuckles
What it states in both kits.

Idk about you but i dont see stagger immunity in Galan's kit. Same with power steal

Shep

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.

Coppin

Stagger unables u to get buffs..
Nullify takes off buffs u got...

ReignkingTW

Staggers nullifies, but it isn't a Nullify. Not too confusing

BitterSteel

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.

I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other

Shep

@BitterSteel That makes more sense.

Verreaux

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.
I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other

Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

Axew

One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.

BitterSteel

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.
I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

Yeah agreed, that’s another reason why I said it’s not completely clear (I just forgot to write it lol)

It is weird that nullify immune champs can have buffs staggered, but they’re likely just coded differently. Would be nice for it to be clearer wording in game though.

Typhoon

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.
I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

Yeah agreed, that’s another reason why I said it’s not completely clear (I just forgot to write it lol)

It is weird that nullify immune champs can have buffs staggered, but they’re likely just coded differently. Would be nice for it to be clearer wording in game though.

Yeah, sym supreme still works great for nullify-immune champs in war. One of those things where I just don't ask questions...

Pikolu

It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.
I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

Even though the description says it nullifies, in kabams game system, they probably have stagger and nullify in different categories since they have different purposes. It probably says nullified in the description so we the players know that it removes the buffs, when in all actuality, what it is really doing is its own mechanic called staggered. However you can't have staggered in the definition of what staggers do.

In conclusion, English sucks.

AverageDesi

It's like the difference between purify and cleanse

Feuerschwer

although also, buffs being removed by stagger trigger Doom’s sig ability like nullify…so it’s a bit of a weird edge case. Definitely needs some better wording somewhere.

AverageDesi

although also, buffs being removed by stagger trigger Doom’s sig ability like nullify…so it’s a bit of a weird edge case. Definitely needs some better wording somewhere.

Good catch. Although If they change it then doom cheese would no longer exist

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Gogeta91199

Stagger is a state of deep shock and in this state of deep shock galan forgets he is nullify immune😂

Crine60

One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.

We've been asking this for 2.5 months with no response or acknowledgement. I have posted asking about this in multiple threads but here is one of the 1st ones I saw.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/311797/is-galan-supposed-to-be-able-to-do-this#latest

Axew

One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.
We've been asking this for 2.5 months with no response or acknowledgement. I have posted asking about this in multiple threads but here is one of the 1st ones I saw.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/311797/is-galan-supposed-to-be-able-to-do-this#latest

Thanks for the post. That’s annoying, I wish they would just acknowledge if it’s intended or a bug, it doesn’t seem difficult to confirm that.