Ice-Man coldsnap AND NOVA FLAME IIIIIIMMMMUNNNEEEEEE!!!!!!! :)

Seeing the initial notes on the Ice-Man buff were shown by Rich The Man, and though his damage improvements look good (not amazing), the fact that he's Nova Flame immue is probably the main reason why I'd take him to R3 considering he's the only one to have that immunity and it can be a roadblock for HT in BGs. Hopefully they still ramp up the damage but so far I'm not mad at the buff. Also he's now finally Coldsnap immune which was one of the longest running sad jokes in game... made of ice... weakness is ice....

Comments

HenriqueSCCP

So far, the videos I've seen of the buff on YouTube, are full synergy, with suicides and with a class advantage against the Winter Soldier from ROL, they are very misleading.
It's better to increase the damage on his kit, even nerf on synergies.

Axew

Damage still looks average. He could have used a way to pause/refresh frostbites or rolling in the scorpion synergy to his base kit. The immunities are dope though

Hdhjssvv

So basically they gave him a almost useless immunity and increased chance to put of cold snap
(He should have been cold snap immune anyway so I don’t consider that a buff)
His damage is still average by himself and he’s supposed to be op mutant
They could have at-least give him guaranteed crits then or something

Bendy

I dont mind his damage being tide to increase duration of coldsnap and more chance of frostbites as he was made for a lot of utility due to all his immunities like getting the nova flame immunity im now thinking are we gonna get more champs with that effect as a debuff since i think iceman is the first full immune to nova flame

Coppin

So he is immune to like 3 champs... Yay

Renaxqq

Incinerate Immunity would have been better.

Usagicassidy

So basically they gave him a almost useless immunity and increased chance to put of cold snap
(He should have been cold snap immune anyway so I don’t consider that a buff)
His damage is still average by himself and he’s supposed to be op mutant
They could have at-least give him guaranteed crits then or something

Omega mutants getting sub-par upgrades is sad.

Nothing's as sad as Phoenix though.

Shamir51

Incinerate Immunity would have been better.

He’s already incinerate immune.

doctorb

So basically they gave him a almost useless immunity and increased chance to put of cold snap
(He should have been cold snap immune anyway so I don’t consider that a buff)
His damage is still average by himself and he’s supposed to be op mutant
They could have at-least give him guaranteed crits then or something
Omega mutants getting sub-par upgrades is sad.

Nothing's as sad as Phoenix though.

Agree. Phoenix is the most powerful mutant here (more than Magneto) and yet they make her so weak. Soooooo sad

Yodabolt21

So make him Torch immune, but Torch is immune to frostbite and coldsnap? So not really useful at all.

GlazzyBear

Seems decent by himself and a damage increase with synergy is fine since Chavez has something similar with Spot. However, I'm kind of disappointed he wasn't given any new utilities. Kabam said they wanted to update his utility and in a way he did but not enough imo. Like sure he has four immunities, an okay evade counter debuff, stun immunity, and a protection mechanic... but it feels like he is missing something else. Maybe some form of regeneration would be fitting for his kit, so he's more similar to Sauron.

Renaxqq

Incinerate Immunity would have been better.
He’s already incinerate immune.

Oh shoot lmao!!!

Hector_1475

So, now he has 6 immunities, he can tank special 3s, he counters evade AND he was supposed to hit as hard as Magneto...? I think he is supposed to be a utility powerhouse and not an insane damage dealer. He does hit considerably harder with Scorpion & Vision Aarkus synergies, who are top champs themselves. I'm happy with his buff (not that I would mind a little tweaking) and I'm taking mine to 6R3.

phillgreen

Is he also immune to the power stings from HT?

AMS94

But what's the benefit of making him Nova flame immune ??
Torch is immune to coldsnap & frostbite so Iceman won't be useful against him as an attacker

All this does is preventing Human Torch from countering Iceman on defense
They probably wanted to increase his defensive value for BGs through this immunity

AMS94

I dont mind his damage being tide to increase duration of coldsnap and more chance of frostbites as he was made for a lot of utility due to all his immunities like getting the nova flame immunity im now thinking are we gonna get more champs with that effect as a debuff since i think iceman is the first full immune to nova flame

I might be wrong about this but as far as I know, Nova Flame in the Marvel universe is a Human Torch specific ability
If that's true then it wouldn't make sense for other champs to have it except some other variants of Human Torch

AMS94

IMO they should add Scorpion & Arkus synergies in his sig ability
Higher sigs for higher crit rate & frostbite duration

May be slightly reduce the numbers for the sake of "balancing" with about +900 crit rate at sig 200 instead of +1200

I have seen those CCP videos & even with this change he wouldn't be a "broken" champ

smy168

Meh...I think Iceman is just fun to play, old school fav of mine anyway...this was meant to be a small buff, and that's what we got...still better than the Spiderman buff haha

HenriqueSCCP

It would be nice if the Frostbite was similar to the Hood's Hex, each new Frostbite you gain refreshes, accumulating more Frostbite to deal good damage when it bursts.

Shadowstrike

So far the footage I've seen was really good. But I understand people having expectations for beyond God tier damage.

The only thing that doesn't make me angry is the fact that they specifically mentioned how this was supposed to be just a slight update, so they were telling us from the get go to keep the bar low.

Paupershango_2006

I love how for Iceman's Buff, he has Nova Flame immunity, and even his organic ice not only provides him immunity to that, but also Coldsnap and Frostbite, and he can also gain a Precision Passive while the opponent has a Coldsnap Debuff from Scorpion's Get Over Here Synergy, allowing him to inflict Frostbite Passives much faster.

Paupershango_2006

If Iceman wanted to be this fun, I'd suggest using the synergies with Scorpion, Vision (Aarkus), Professor X, and Kate Bishop.

Nameless_IW

So, now he has 6 immunities, he can tank special 3s, he counters evade AND he was supposed to hit as hard as Magneto...? I think he is supposed to be a utility powerhouse and not an insane damage dealer. He does hit considerably harder with Scorpion & Vision Aarkus synergies, who are top champs themselves. I'm happy with his buff (not that I would mind a little tweaking) and I'm taking mine to 6R3.

6 immunities sounds great ! let me see bleed, poison, incinerate, nova flames, and coldsnap.

Now lets compare him to Absorbing Man. He is immune to Bleed, shock, incinerate, coldsnap, frostbite, armor break, armor shattered. and though not an immunity but has an amazing 9000 energy or physical resistance. Total count : 7

Thing, immune to bleed, shock, armor break, armor shattered, nullify, stagger, fate seal effects. Total count: 7

Emma Frost, immune to stuns, bleed, poison, incinerate, shock, frostbite, coldsnap, fatigue, concussion, exhaustion effects. Total count: 10

Woww, Emma Frost still the Queen of immunities.

Paupershango_2006

For Absorbing Man he has immunity to Poison when either Abomination (Immortal) or Hulk (Immortal) are on his team.

Paupershango_2006

So he'd have 8 immunities.

Paupershango_2006

For Colossus, he has immunity to Bleed, Incinerate, Coldsnap, and Frostbite, also Armor Break and Armor Shattered Debuffs against non-Tech Champions. Total Count: 6

Paupershango_2006

For Omega Sentinel, she has immunity to Nullify, Fate Seal, and Stagger effects, also AAR immune against Mutants, 100% Bleed and Poison Resistance, and increased Energy Resistance per non-damaging Debuff from Omega Sentinel's Nano-Shifting Weapons. Total Immunities: 4, and Total Resistances: 3; Total Immunities and Resistances: 7

Paupershango_2006

And yes, Emma Frost is the immunity queen.