**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Comments
Very well said. As owner of a duped 5* Groot as well as a full collection of other 5* clunkers, there’s very little use for them other than shortening the T4b arena by a few matches, and there’s no reason to burn the alphas and other cats needed to R2 them. Unless you’re trying to pad your rating (at nearly 500K I’m not), champs like Groot are pretty much a waste of space.
Dr. Zola
This is absolutely correct. It’s also hilarious that you use Drax/Hulk useful as a metric—like most long time players, I’ve thrown myself into December content looking for at least Drax/Hulk usefulness from my 5* pulls. One good result (Quake) in a sea of 8-9 pulls this month definitely not at the Drax/Hulk Level. The inevitable conclusion: why bother putting in the effort if the game team won’t do the same?
And let me add this: I’m not one of those super picky types who pouts if it isn’t Hypo, Gwen or GR. At last count, I have about 20-25 5* champ pulls out of a pool of 70ish I would be more than satisfied with, but I continue to get champs I refuse to waste 5 alphas on.
Dr. Zola
Absolutely -- nor am I. I don't complain about the pulls because whatever the drop rates are, the math says that looking for any specific character on any specific pull is simply a path to disappointment.
It's the resources that I honestly take issue with. I grind at the level of an above-average player. Never have too much extra gold sitting around, too much ISO. I try to play the hand I am dealt and will rank up characters who I have mastered that are comfortable for me to play.
I recognize the game is moving toward 5-stars. We all know that 6-stars are coming.
But if I have a 4-star Iceman and 4-star Archangel and 4-star Star-Lord sitting there at 4/40 -- and I do, along with numerous other strong characters -- I am supoosed to dump 5 alphas into Groot or She-Hulk to take them to R2?
My best 5-star is probably Guillotine. Again, not a complaint. But who would ise the resources to take her to R2 before they would an Iceman or Wolverine or Star-Lord or Archangel, even though they are 4/40?
You just wouldn't do that. Right? You just wouldn't. Nobody would
That’s the dilemma. At 90+ 4*’s, I have ranked all the sought-after ones as well as some of the duds. Apart from a tiny few of them (Iceman, Wolvie, AA, Hypo, SL, GwenPool, SW, e.g.), they are obsolete. You wouldn’t want to burn resources on any 4*’s that are no longer relevant.
But the 5* crystal still forces many to play only in the shallow end, yet another place you don’t want to burn resources. While I would tend to think Guilly is one of the better of the older 5* options, she may not be for you, and she certainly isn’t at the top of the R4 list for most players. You’re probably better off ranking quality 4* to 5/50. But even in doing so, you’ve still got an eye on content that could really use a strong 5* at R3/4.
So what do you do? More dilemma. You could wait years to get the 5* you want. I’ve given up waiting for my earth-shattering 5* pull, or even a strong Cosmic or Skill to use my AGs on. But I haven’t pulled the trigger on what is honestly a middling 5* roster. So cats and iso pile up, expire...
I have an old ally mate who ranks whoever he likes and doesn’t look back. He probably got it right.
Dr. Zola
I believe it -- at some point, you become stuck in the endgame content without access to select characters, unless a person wants to augment/power their way through with units.
None of us are dense: We know that isn't something that a game developer doesn't want, players spending to complete content.
Again: I don't speak for everyone. Each person has to make their decision about if they will ever pay, and for what, or if grinding for units and shards indefinitely is their path.
I just know that I am not spending thousands of dollars to power through content with characters that have no business even being considered being used.
Maybe Kabam doesn't care; RNG is what it is. But nope, I am not going to start Labyrinth with characters who are not truly capable of helping me clear it, and I am not going in without at least two 5-stars that are worth using
I'm not sure he is the worst. Carnage is pretty weak.
I totally agree with this. I got my first great 5* 8 months into the game and the other 2 on my 15th month. Today my luck ran out. Last weekend I pulled Ghost Rider then Voodoo. Today I pulled Kamala Khan.
Groot 1A
Carnage 1B
I have both duped
Is it playing actively and competitively since December 2014? Because, to me, that feels like a pretty “long” haul. For Summoners who have put in several months and complain about champ pulls, I think the “long haul” line works just fine. Not so much for players sitting on 90+ 4*’s, consistent Map 5/6 play, a couple dozen or more 5*’s, etc. Those players have been in it for the “long haul.” It is, after all, a toon phone game—not chess, the World Cup or Halliday’s Oasis contest.
And that’s where the 5* Groot comes in. For the noob, it’s a disappointment but may still be useful for clearing content beneath 5* level. For the “long hauler,” that Groot (or whichever bottom-barrel champ sticks to your account like dog manure on your trainers) isn’t part of your or anyone’s long game. It’s just a stick in the eye.
Again: fix the crummy 5* champs. Give them something other than a synergy with a God-tier the RNGenie won’t give us. And stop making up lazy solutions like AW diversity that you don’t intend to stick with anyway.
Dr. Zola
I am a Howling Commando, as well -- I know you have been around just as long. The frustrations you express about being expected to remain patient are, indeed, fairly hollow when a person considers the truth of 5-stars: No one who has the Doctor Voodoos and Gwenpools and Hyperions are necessarily better players than me with a duped She-Hulk and Ant-Man and Groot.
Maybe they intercept more consistently, or maybe they land an extra parry or two over the course of a tough fight, but at some point, I can say that it isn't overall skill holding us back.
At some point, the inherent unfairness of the 5-star system is as clear as day: You cannot have content that scales in difficulty but maintain players who are luckier than others.
I have a duped She-Hulk. Others have duped Star-Lords. There hasn't been any 5-star Arenas. There is no valid reason based on skill or work ethic that renders this outcome as justifiable.
The person who has the duped 5-star Star-Lord has a clear advantage in clearing difficult content which leads to more rewards AND separation from those who are simply unlucky -- and that is ridiculously unfair.
It is an exponential curve of separation. As was said earlier, one person rage-quits because he literally cannot clear 5.4 with his ROSTER. Not his skill or work ethic.
The ROSTER.
The more I think about this, the more frustrated I get. You, me...we all should be. Kabam has failed us with this system. It's patently unfair.
Well said, indeed.
Dr. Zola
gimme an Ant Man and She Hulk so i can have my full god tier team!
Oof I know the feeling, pulled back-to-back 4* and 5* Ant-Man over the course of two days XD
I got Juggernaut, BPCW, Karnak, and Superior iron man from my first 4, then my luck turned around and I got Gp and magik just keep going
Anybody still discuss about this in 2018? 🤣🤣🤣