Pls nerf bullseye also how to nerf him

Samanun

No bleed dmg when you dex
Make his sp1 dexable
No crit through block if you parry

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EdisonLaw

His rebalancing info should be coming this month

MadGodOryx

If they nerf Onslaught on defense, I’ll eat my shoe

Bugmat78

I find onslaught worst on defence, but Bullseye ain't easy. I also don't like to fight Photon. There's a theme here.

ItsClobberinTime

Ain't no way people are saying Onslaught worse than Bullseye on defense lol as long as you don't block his sp1 you won't get enough neuros on you to lose a meaningful amount of health. Not even close to the damage Bullseye deals through block even with bleed immune.

MadGodOryx

They both suck. No need to play misery poker on who sucks more. I just can’t imagine they nerf either if they didn’t nerf Photon for similar issues

captain_rogers

I can defeat bullseye with a champ at 100% health, without AAR or regen. Can you do the same with Onslaught? You are going to take damage no matter what, he should be nerfed

ItsClobberinTime

Bullseye is a completely different monster, similar issues yes but make no mistake this guy is worse.

Bright4973

ItsClobberinTime

Yes I can. You can't?

Onslaught doesn't even need a counter in the first place, even with champs who crit if you're dashing back and light intercepting constantly you can mitigate most of the damage and if you can dex his sp1 you can finish with a full bar indeed.
Bullseye on the other hand is just an insta loss if you don't have bleed immune and even with bleed immune his specials still crti through block so I find it hard to believe you finish with 100% health against him all the time like you say.

Terminatrix

Done.

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Terminatrix

Actually....there is someone. I won't say who just yet. I found this out just by testing their utility against him. I'm still doing trial and error on them though. Been practicing against my own Onslaught. Hoping to get a fight with him in BGs.

Darkraw346

Darkraw346

I'd say im more scared if I have to fight Bullseye with no counter rather than Onslaught with no counter,
Haven't found myself in that situation yet, but when I fight Onslaught in bgs, mostly its not even with tech champs (unless Psycho man is on deck)

captain_rogers

Wicket329

In fairness, most of the community thought Dani’s sp2 was unavoidable until we all were forced to learn it. I’m sure if we all actually worked to figure it out, we could.

Vegeta9001

I'm getting real tired of seeing "inferior" class champions countering the superior classes more and more lately. Dani is just one of many affected by this.

ItsClobberinTime

Same here, you don't really need counters for Onslaught.
Is it better if you have one? Yes, however good gameplay can still get you a win. Bullseye on the other hand, no amount of good gameplay will get you a win without a strong counter.

captain_rogers

By 100% I meant like above 90% health.
I believe shocker is a non metal champ+you have good skills. Still I won't accept "onslaught don't need a counter".

Atleast there are champs who counter bullseye. Like direct counters, like iceman, emma and the new prowler. Also any bleed immune works if Ai cooperates. He is definitely pain in the *** but there are direct counters who shut him down.

But onslaught, no one is immune to his damage, it's all rng when you get inflicted with his dot (neuroshock is what it's called right), no one is immune to it. Onslaught is also psuedo immine to bleed, shock and incenerate, and he shuts down most techs as they are metal champs, and can't purify his debuffs.

But let me tell you one thing I'm sure of, if onslaught don't get a nerf in defense, bullseye definitely won't get one neither.
Both are equally worse if not more worse.

I usually ban both of them but I've fight bullseye twice in bgs, and won both times with archangel at 90% health. Fought onslaught like 10 times, use various champs, but never won against him above 50% health. I can dex his specials as well.

Idk what I'm doing wrong against him.

Samanun

You’re probably using the wrong champs, most nuke champs can take him really well and champs with high energy resistance, just to name a few
Hulkling, cgr, kushala, valk, nick, tigra, ham, abs, kitty, silk, titania, havok.

Samanun

Yeah onslaught isn't anywhere near the level of bullseye

MadGodOryx

Nick Fury? Against Onslaught? The champ who relies on bleed damage? What?

Also, Ham is pretty ok. But not that great against Onslaught. Because you cant parry/stun him, your AA on placing poppers goes down pretty bad so its a real crapshoot.

MadGodOryx

While I might agree Bullseye is worse, Onslaught is still bad. And I still dont think either will be nerfed by Kabam at all

Samanun

I said nick because He can finish onslaught at high health not because he’s fast for that matchup , ham is fine against onslaught, yeah it’s not one of his best matchups but all you have to do is intercept, his popper aa isn't as high as i would be with the stun but you can still place a significant amount of them it’s not that bad.

MadGodOryx

How can Nick finish at high hp? The bleeds will get you constant neuros, not to mention they are a majority of his damage, and do nothing to OS, and yeah his Life Model Decoy can play a dirty trick in BGs, you still gotta do damage in a timely manor, against an opponent thats immune to your best form of damage, with class advantage, and get him low enough your SP3 can kill.

Like, that seems like a tough sell. Im happy to eat crow and be wrong, but it just doesn’t sound like a viable option.

Pandingo

I think this will be one of the first tune downs we see. Did I miss one? I feel like they haven't really tuned many down

MadGodOryx

Technically Abs Man, and then I think they had a very minor adjustment to Zemo’s resistance passive?

Samanun

Bleeds don't give you neuros, and yeah he’s no where near the best option for the fight he’s not fast but if you really need him to do it he can.

peixemacaco

Sorry guys...

I really voted for Bullseye
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Nightheart

I faced Bullseye in BG instead of banning him I decided to use sunspot all it took was a sp1 and an sp2

Nightheart

And for Onslaught CGR works provided you do enough damage on time I did fave Onslaught 6 star rank 6l5 destroyed him with 2 sp2