Is Kate Bishop too Strong?

I feel like she was pretty under-used before necro, but after, she has become a staple of the game. Her util and damage may be a little too much though. Did we get lucky with the time of her balancing? How strong should a champ be relative to their comic/cinema standing?

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Vegeta9001

Looking at some of the champions released. Id say she is perfectly fine as is.

KDoggg2017

Her 7* version will be broken, that's for sure
6* is sweet

Too bad more people didn't join me in voting for her as the skill 7* added. 😇

Syndicated

She is not the serpent or Onslaught lol

NONYABIZZ

I would like to add that I agree that she takes a lot of skill to play, especially for a prolonged period of time. This debate came up on Lag’s channel as well. I think that maybe in terms of character she is a little bit too strong. For example, Iceman, an omega level mutant, has less potent cold snaps on a full rotation than kate on sp1. As a YA with a bow and arrow, her block proficiency is higher than Doctor Doom. Things like that.
There are champs that feel like their design was definitely a labor of love (Kate, Kitty, Hercules, Chee'ilth) and some who feel like their designer went "sigh I guess I'll go phone in some work on the champion I was assigned now" (Nova #Justice4Nova He doesn't even have a proper win pose! They gave him a recycled placeholder one that doesn't even make sense for the character.). She has a few too many tools that are a bit too potent.

Yes, I'm annoyed that she's so much better than Hawkeye and to such a ridiculous extent.

CheeGOAT needs to be able to refresh to reach the top 5 of her class. That's all they could've given her because her bleeds are harder to maintain and huge stacks can fall of easily when the AI refuses to play ball. To not make her broken they could've capped it at 50 or so.

victor158

Most consistent and i think the highest DOT in the game, and its so easy to refresh too. and even if theyre immune or resistant to coldsnap, caltrops can do the job extremely well by itself(only like 3 champs i can think of that are immune to both). Not only that, the ability within 2 sp1s to not get a single debuff of any kind against almost anyone is busted. And on top of that shes a miss counter, AND she has extremely strong ai manipulation so they actually have to throw specials, AND a psuedo heal block with synergy, AND she can parry riposte non contact attacks, AND she shes psuedo stun immune with the riposte. The only thing that makes her hard to use is the perfect release which with like a couple hours of practice im sure majority of people can do. one of my favourite champs but damn if shes not broken as hell

EdisonLaw

Most consistent and i think the highest DOT in the game, and its so easy to refresh too. and even if theyre immune or resistant to coldsnap, caltrops can do the job extremely well by itself(only like 3 champs i can think of that are immune to both). Not only that, the ability within 2 sp1s to not get a single debuff of any kind against almost anyone is busted. And on top of that shes a miss counter, AND she has extremely strong ai manipulation so they actually have to throw specials, AND a psuedo heal block with synergy, AND she can parry riposte non contact attacks, AND she shes psuedo stun immune with the riposte. The only thing that makes her hard to use is the perfect release which with like a couple hours of practice im sure majority of people can do. one of my favourite champs but damn if shes not broken as hell

She's not broken since you need to constantly keep those effects refreshed, and if the AI doesn't play ball, you basically lose most of it

victor158

Most consistent and i think the highest DOT in the game, and its so easy to refresh too. and even if theyre immune or resistant to coldsnap, caltrops can do the job extremely well by itself(only like 3 champs i can think of that are immune to both). Not only that, the ability within 2 sp1s to not get a single debuff of any kind against almost anyone is busted. And on top of that shes a miss counter, AND she has extremely strong ai manipulation so they actually have to throw specials, AND a psuedo heal block with synergy, AND she can parry riposte non contact attacks, AND she shes psuedo stun immune with the riposte. The only thing that makes her hard to use is the perfect release which with like a couple hours of practice im sure majority of people can do. one of my favourite champs but damn if shes not broken as hell
She's not broken since you need to constantly keep those effects refreshed, and if the AI doesn't play ball, you basically lose most of it

but its so easy to keep them refreshed. especially with the ai throwing specials more often at the wall. just heavy spam against the wall (which you can do even in bgs and against syg cause crush, even more utility), and bait a special and repeat. not only does heavy refresh, punishing a special will pause them for 5? seconds which is ages

MadGodOryx

This community will sooner eat its own shoes than ever admit or consider a champ is too strong lmao

MadGodOryx

Most consistent and i think the highest DOT in the game, and its so easy to refresh too. and even if theyre immune or resistant to coldsnap, caltrops can do the job extremely well by itself(only like 3 champs i can think of that are immune to both). Not only that, the ability within 2 sp1s to not get a single debuff of any kind against almost anyone is busted. And on top of that shes a miss counter, AND she has extremely strong ai manipulation so they actually have to throw specials, AND a psuedo heal block with synergy, AND she can parry riposte non contact attacks, AND she shes psuedo stun immune with the riposte. The only thing that makes her hard to use is the perfect release which with like a couple hours of practice im sure majority of people can do. one of my favourite champs but damn if shes not broken as hell
She's not broken since you need to constantly keep those effects refreshed, and if the AI doesn't play ball, you basically lose most of it

Yeah, its a shame Kabam didn’t give her like 4 different ways to help keep all those effects refreshed.

Oh, wait.

Mr Wilson Fisk

One change I'd love is if you choose a specific arrow that your choice would carry over unless changed. Same with scorpion.

JMC2007JR

"Perfectly balanced as all things should be" That is what Kate is to me

Emilia90

This community will sooner eat its own shoes than ever admit or consider a champ is too strong lmao

Most meta defenders released in the last couple months aren’t great matchups for her. It’s not like she can smash through everything

Birbman

Which champ can consistently deal 3k dot per tick at 6* r5, on the first 15 seconds of the fight
and up until the fight ends, even if it
takes an hour?

Her Dot is just unreal, she is useful from act 1 to everest content, war, aq, bg incursions everywhere in the game. Top tier attacker, annoying in defense nd great Utilities.

I still can't believe she passed the nerf wave.
Even tho shang chi is my fav skill, kate is just
Another league and it's a massive L we lost her
In polls.
Wait wtf, people picked shang over Kate for 7* ?
It was in the month of may, when kate was too new. Kabam made these polls for titan crystals where among 4 champs you choose one per class. They had shang, kate and two others for skill and people choose shang chi over kate. I won't complain since kate is very new at the time and many players donno bout her potential.

I once choose FAM over kate in a nexus crystal when I was newbie paragon as I thought kate was some overrated champ. But anyways got her before my first necro run 🥰.

I voted for Shang chi I had the second r5 Kate at the time of her release in the featured Allison was first

LONERANGER_141

She is not busted, GOAT tier maybe. If she had a safety net like hercules then i would completely agree that she is busted. And the AI doesnt always play ball, there are times when instead of throwing specials, they light intercept me. I am an average skilled player at best and yes i do get high DOT damage off her. But when i mess up, theres no safety net. Like when the vault bosses whopped my Kate. NF was my saving grace. So no shes not busted, Beyond god tier imo

DoctorOfDoom

Honestly could use a little buff

a buff would make her unreal, doesn't need it though, imo though a power steal on the sp1(like a big one, kinda like doom) would make her overpowered as hell

Chuck_Finley

I am opposed to any attacker getting nerfed while Serpent remains untouched. Bring on 7 star Kate, CGR, Herc, you name it. Right now broken champs are all on the defensive side

Harryatomix

This community will sooner eat its own shoes than ever admit or consider a champ is too strong lmao
Most meta defenders released in the last couple months aren’t great matchups for her. It’s not like she can smash through everything

Except serpent none is coldsnap immune, that's enough for Kate bishop. You can tell this when all champs released are cold snap immune.

Harryatomix

If Kate bishop is released as 7 star without any nerf I am gonna riot. She is more dangerous for the game than Hercules. With her in ur team you can complete Everest or any new content kabam releases with ease. Se needs nerf.

Furrymoosen

Honestly could use a little buff
a buff would make her unreal, doesn't need it though, imo though a power steal on the sp1(like a big one, kinda like doom) would make her overpowered as hell

See what you've done? Now people are commenting on a 6 month old post like it's new.
Don't necro.

EdisonLaw

If Kate bishop is released as 7 star without any nerf I am gonna riot. She is more dangerous for the game than Hercules. With her in ur team you can complete Everest or any new content kabam releases with ease. Se needs nerf.

Nah herc is more broken with immortality

peixemacaco

Don't mess with my Kate 😍🌹
Or I'll use a Cryo Arrow
😎🏹

This 👆

Jethua

I still can’t believe we missed the opportunity to have her as a 7* lol. Shang chi is great tho, I love my r2… but… but Kate…

Chris_Summers

We need her as 7* now.

EdisonLaw

We need her as 7* now.

We probably won’t get her for a long time, not till Necro 2.0 or another similar piece of content comes out

startropics

If Kate bishop is released as 7 star without any nerf I am gonna riot. She is more dangerous for the game than Hercules. With her in ur team you can complete Everest or any new content kabam releases with ease. Se needs nerf.

this got a lot of disagrees but it's not wrong.

in some ways she's more busted than herc...

-finishes bg matches in 2 two bars (herc needs sp1, sp2, and follow up punches)
-very few coldsnap immune champs
-coldsnap is passive and does massive DPS

if she would have won they would for sure have nerfed her or made a bunch of anti-kate nodes and defenders.

startropics

this sounds elitist and it should in this context....but not everyone should get a vote, lol.

Zeke_the_Xbot

Listen I got 3 words on this one...
Seven Star When?