Deep Dive: Beta Ray Bill

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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★

    TIME TO PAY DA BILLS 🗣🗣🗣🔝🔝🔝

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  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Posts: 2,295 ★★★★★
    So, his dmg never goes away? You can keep reapply the Shocks with his speical attacks, they don't fade after the big burst, unlike with QS
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 3,321 ★★★★★

    So, his dmg never goes away? You can keep reapply the Shocks with his speical attacks, they don't fade after the big burst, unlike with QS

    Yup it looks like that and you also stack 3 furies with the sp1 so his damage will keep rising and you’ll have constant damage for longer fights as well
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Posts: 2,295 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    Just take the dmg u saw and have it-40%
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 3,321 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
  • Nemesis_17Nemesis_17 Posts: 2,096 ★★★★★
    Seems like they learned from Morb
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    Just take the dmg u saw and have it-40%
    Well, 10 shocks did 91k on Red Skull with a r3 sig 200 BRB. If you reduce that by 40% you're barely looking at a 54k burst, that's a pretty good amount of damage you're missing out on, and 54k burst at 10 shocks for a r3 sounds very underwhelming. If that is the case then this is already starting to sound like Midbius 2.0 in terms of damage that's why I was wondering if they showed any actual unawakened gameplay.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 3,321 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    Just take the dmg u saw and have it-40%
    Well, 10 shocks did 91k on Red Skull with a r3 sig 200 BRB. If you reduce that by 40% you're barely looking at a 54k burst, that's a pretty good amount of damage you're missing out on, and 54k burst at 10 shocks for a r3 sounds very underwhelming. If that is the case then this is already starting to sound like Midbius 2.0 in terms of damage that's why I was wondering if they showed any actual unawakened gameplay.
    The 91k is a bug. Bursts show how much health the opponent has left, not the actual burst amount. Someone pointed that out already and that’s how it works for a lot of champs
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 3,321 ★★★★★
    When the opponent is KO’d with it (to clarify). The burst number subtracts their health and not the actual damage number for some reason
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
    But something there is not adding up cause how is the 6* unawakened dealing 28k with two shocks meanwhile the r3 with 10 shocks would've barely dealt 54k since at sig 200 he dealt 91k?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    Just take the dmg u saw and have it-40%
    Well, 10 shocks did 91k on Red Skull with a r3 sig 200 BRB. If you reduce that by 40% you're barely looking at a 54k burst, that's a pretty good amount of damage you're missing out on, and 54k burst at 10 shocks for a r3 sounds very underwhelming. If that is the case then this is already starting to sound like Midbius 2.0 in terms of damage that's why I was wondering if they showed any actual unawakened gameplay.
    The 91k is a bug. Bursts show how much health the opponent has left, not the actual burst amount. Someone pointed that out already and that’s how it works for a lot of champs
    Oh okay thank God, I was very concerned just now.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★
    So it looks like the glance immunity only triggers at the start against Techs and when immune to shock or power drain, this means it’s specifically against Future Ant Man, or am I missing something?
  • PriyabrataPriyabrata Posts: 1,218 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    So it looks like the glance immunity only triggers at the start against Techs and when immune to shock or power drain, this means it’s specifically against Future Ant Man, or am I missing something?

    Yep specifically for Fantman
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    So it looks like the glance immunity only triggers at the start against Techs and when immune to shock or power drain, this means it’s specifically against Future Ant Man, or am I missing something?

    Yep specifically for Fantman
    So does it mean he can’t counter Storm X or Ant Man?
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Posts: 1,371 ★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
    But something there is not adding up cause how is the 6* unawakened dealing 28k with two shocks meanwhile the r3 with 10 shocks would've barely dealt 54k since at sig 200 he dealt 91k?
    I think for those of us investing in the 7*, the key until he’s awakened will be to time those shocks expiring during our sp1 for the big 200% bonus burst damage. 200% is already wild enough where not having the full 240% from sig 200 shouldn’t be an issue if your Bill is ranked high enough.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★
    @jcphillips7 so kinda like prowler
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Posts: 362 ★★★
    edited August 3

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.

    pay attention at 2:30 the fight against quicksilver

    it's R5 unduped and NOT ascended bill vs 7* duped quicksilver

    each shock that expired during the first sp1 deals 14k+ damage

    Edit : also check 2:58 the fight is R2 unduped vs duped 7* thor

    shocks expiring during sp1 deal 14073 damage each
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.

    pay attention at 2:30 the fight against quicksilver

    it's R5 unduped and NOT ascended bill vs 7* duped quicksilver

    each shock that expired during the first sp1 deals 14k+ damage

    Edit : also check 2:58 the fight is R2 unduped vs duped 7* thor

    shocks expiring during sp1 deal 14073 damage each
    That’s near Scorpion level damage with a few power stings
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.

    pay attention at 2:30 the fight against quicksilver

    it's R5 unduped and NOT ascended bill vs 7* duped quicksilver

    each shock that expired during the first sp1 deals 14k+ damage

    Edit : also check 2:58 the fight is R2 unduped vs duped 7* thor

    shocks expiring during sp1 deal 14073 damage each
    I saw that yes, it doesn't make sense though cause the 7* r3 sig 200 dealt 91k with 10 shocks, if each shock dealt 14k for a r5 unawakened 6* then with 10 shocks that would be 140k damage right? that's 50k more damage than the r3 sig 200 7* which makes absolutely no sense. I'm told it's a bug and it's not showing numbers as it normally should when you ko them so let's hope that is the case indeed.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 5,322 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
    But something there is not adding up cause how is the 6* unawakened dealing 28k with two shocks meanwhile the r3 with 10 shocks would've barely dealt 54k since at sig 200 he dealt 91k?
    I think for those of us investing in the 7*, the key until he’s awakened will be to time those shocks expiring during our sp1 for the big 200% bonus burst damage. 200% is already wild enough where not having the full 240% from sig 200 shouldn’t be an issue if your Bill is ranked high enough.
    I know, I'm just saying the numbers on the deep dive aren't adding up so there's definitely something wrong there.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Posts: 5,808 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
    But something there is not adding up cause how is the 6* unawakened dealing 28k with two shocks meanwhile the r3 with 10 shocks would've barely dealt 54k since at sig 200 he dealt 91k?
    I think for those of us investing in the 7*, the key until he’s awakened will be to time those shocks expiring during our sp1 for the big 200% bonus burst damage. 200% is already wild enough where not having the full 240% from sig 200 shouldn’t be an issue if your Bill is ranked high enough.
    I know, I'm just saying the numbers on the deep dive aren't adding up so there's definitely something wrong there.
    We’ll see once we have him, but don’t be concerned, his damage will be good
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Posts: 3,321 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Emilia90 said:

    Looks amazing. Even with minimal shocks his burst was doing good damage and that’s without the awakened ability. Up to 100% damage reduction when unstoppable is awesome, 50% res to poison and bleed makes him very suicide friendly and he’ll heal from WP, glance and unstoppable counter, and massive base and burst damage with the furies

    Sig ability is very nice to have but not needed. They nailed it

    Where did they show the burst damage without awakened ability?
    Cause I checked the whole video and I only see sig 200 r3 burst damage. I still think he's going to be great but I've yet to see the burst damage when he's unawakened which is worrying me a bit.
    The starting shows a 6* that’s unawakened with only 2 shocks and it still does decent burst (minimal shocks + no sig + 6*). The burst on a 7* r3 would probably beat a 6* R5A even without high sig though cause it’s enough to compensate for the 40%. I’m sure that you might not even have to sp2 sometimes if you have a max sig one and get enough shocks and you could yolo it, but the sig doesn’t look like it’s a must tbh
    But something there is not adding up cause how is the 6* unawakened dealing 28k with two shocks meanwhile the r3 with 10 shocks would've barely dealt 54k since at sig 200 he dealt 91k?
    I think for those of us investing in the 7*, the key until he’s awakened will be to time those shocks expiring during our sp1 for the big 200% bonus burst damage. 200% is already wild enough where not having the full 240% from sig 200 shouldn’t be an issue if your Bill is ranked high enough.
    I know, I'm just saying the numbers on the deep dive aren't adding up so there's definitely something wrong there.
    Just tested and here’s a vid with something similar. His damage decreases in the final hit and deals remaining health instead of the actual burst it would’ve done it seems. I’ve seen this happen to a lot of champs and idk why

    https://youtu.be/eLkJW9pSUpA?si=bSkiwDhqc0379mpj
  • GarloGarlo Posts: 240 ★★
    Where are his hashtags? It would be great if he has #clarity.
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