Deathless vision sux

He's only just been made available and he is below mid. For the amount of work we needed to do to collect him he needs a big increase in damage output

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DerpyEagle

I like his play style but indeed needs to be more rewarding

Maat1985

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage

Nightheart

His power control is weaker than both the other visions

Syndicated

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage

His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol

PT_99

Lazy design from both looks and abilities

Maybe because game team had hands filled with Enchantress, Beta ray and sashtra,
Remember Superior Ironman also didn't got any animation upgrade because Kabam is just going a lot of things in short time

Surely supIron will get update in future 😬

WednesdayLength

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage
His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol

Because they other visions power control is so good they literally couldn't give him that without removing 90% of the rest of his kit

PrimeSaviour_27

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage
His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol
Because they other visions power control is so good they literally couldn't give him that without removing 90% of the rest of his kit

Take it! His damage is so poor it’s not worth the trade lol either give better power control or better damage. At the moment there is none!

captain_rogers

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage
His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol
Because they other visions power control is so good they literally couldn't give him that without removing 90% of the rest of his kit

I'll rather have the goated power control with mid damage instead of mid power control with mid damage.

Lokx

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.

This is the first deathless champ i got and i am a bit Disappointed.

Bendy

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.

From swedeah in comments he said a extra 1500 only for a r3 at max sig its practically nothing

Lokx

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.
From swedeah in comments he said a extra 1500 only for a r3 at max sig its practically nothing

Oh, yh then he does suck. It’s a shame. Hopefully the next one is better.

Bendy

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.
From swedeah in comments he said a extra 1500 only for a r3 at max sig its practically nothing
Oh, yh then he does suck. It’s a shame. Hopefully the next one is better.

Yeah i think if they kept the insane power burn plus the damage from specials just give him half the fury passives and i think people would like him as all the old kits was missing was phase and specials actually dealing damage

WednesdayLength

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage
His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol
Because they other visions power control is so good they literally couldn't give him that without removing 90% of the rest of his kit
Take it! His damage is so poor it’s not worth the trade lol either give better power control or better damage. At the moment there is none!

His damage is there, yall are being so overdramatic

WednesdayLength

Vision has always been about power control utility tho. Not damage.
I have not got him and not played him but would expect him to be able to power lock a lot of fights but not have huge damage
His power control is Bad, really really Bad in comparison with the other Visions lol
Because they other visions power control is so good they literally couldn't give him that without removing 90% of the rest of his kit
I'll rather have the goated power control with mid damage instead of mid power control with mid damage.

So use normal vision then?

WednesdayLength

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.
From swedeah in comments he said a extra 1500 only for a r3 at max sig its practically nothing
Oh, yh then he does suck. It’s a shame. Hopefully the next one is better.
Yeah i think if they kept the insane power burn plus the damage from specials just give him half the fury passives and i think people would like him as all the old kits was missing was phase and specials actually dealing damage

The power control on og vision was too strong already as per dll

captain_rogers

Reduce is damage even further but please bring back the power drain 🙏.

WednesdayLength

Reduce is damage even further but please bring back the power drain 🙏.

If you want og vision power gain just use og vision

ahmynuts

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao

Bendy

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao

Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision

ahmynuts

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision

This dude is in every deathless vision thread hard defending him lmao.
It's like the same situation with sable. Even MSD couldn't make her look good. She's bad. Swedeah can't make vision look that good. He's not good

Bendy

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision
This dude is in every deathless vision thread hard defending him lmao.
It's like the same situation with sable. Even MSD couldn't make her look good. She's bad. Swedeah can't make vision look that good. He's not good

Like sure we havent gotten one synergy which is cruelty but even then it still might not look good enough since its very small cruelty passive

Bendy

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision
This dude is in every deathless vision thread hard defending him lmao.
It's like the same situation with sable. Even MSD couldn't make her look good. She's bad. Swedeah can't make vision look that good. He's not good

Tbh ill defend negasonic anyday as she actually has uses with her kit but i just cant defend this like i was sold on negasonic day 1 knew what she was for how good she will be that isnt meta stuff but has champs to counterwise but this vision i cant defend as this isnt the vision i expected

BeastDad

Vision AOU is better.

ThePredator1001

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.

This is the first deathless champ i got and i am a bit Disappointed.

The initial reaction was similar for deathless guilly, once we got her awakened she gained some popularity but still not a popular champ. I think Deathless King Groot is definitely the best of the bunch so far.

I think Deathless Vision will be a decent option when you need a heal block champ but i don’t think he’ll be ever be more than that. Like others have said, even fully ramped his damage is pretty bad. And his power control doesn’t feel like a lock down champ, he feels like a worse version of Peni Parker where you just use power drain to ramp. But she’s got way more damage.

Bendy

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.

This is the first deathless champ i got and i am a bit Disappointed.
The initial reaction was similar for deathless guilly, once we got her awakened she gained some popularity but still not a popular champ. I think Deathless King Groot is definitely the best of the bunch so far.

I think Deathless Vision will be a decent option when you need a heal block champ but i don’t think he’ll be ever be more than that. Like others have said, even fully ramped his damage is pretty bad. And his power control doesn’t feel like a lock down champ, he feels like a worse version of Peni Parker where you just use power drain to ramp. But she’s got way more damage.

If u need heal block theres warlock omega sent and lady d who when duped is better

WednesdayLength

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao

No one, I just think this playerbase is prone to hyperbole

WednesdayLength

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision

They're not the same champ

WednesdayLength

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision
This dude is in every deathless vision thread hard defending him lmao.
It's like the same situation with sable. Even MSD couldn't make her look good. She's bad. Swedeah can't make vision look that good. He's not good

Sorry that I think the first 48 hours of a champs release isn't enough to make a definitive statement

Bendy

@WednesdayLength
Bro who is paying you to ride and defend this champ so hard wtf lmao
Even the guy who loves vision aka swedeah isnt happy about him and he loves vision
They're not the same champ

He is still vision they are the same champ one is worse also why not reply about beta then of the post of people saying hes overhyped

ThePredator1001

While i hope he gets a buff, you have to remember that deathless champs are not gonna be treated like other champs. They’re not priority as they’re mainly trophy champs. They’re for collectors not meta changing champs.

That being said his damage is low which i do hope they boost but i hear he needs awakening to truly shine.

This is the first deathless champ i got and i am a bit Disappointed.
The initial reaction was similar for deathless guilly, once we got her awakened she gained some popularity but still not a popular champ. I think Deathless King Groot is definitely the best of the bunch so far.

I think Deathless Vision will be a decent option when you need a heal block champ but i don’t think he’ll be ever be more than that. Like others have said, even fully ramped his damage is pretty bad. And his power control doesn’t feel like a lock down champ, he feels like a worse version of Peni Parker where you just use power drain to ramp. But she’s got way more damage.
If u need heal block theres warlock omega sent and lady d who when duped is better

I agree, he’s not the best at anything but I would say his heal block is his best utility. But for most situations he wouldn’t by my first pick still.