Why is kabam putting nodes as new hero abilities? (Enchantress)

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  • FrydayFryday Member Posts: 1,118 ★★★★

    I'll say there is an easy fix for Enchantress. Don't lock her sp2 in defense. In this way, we only need to do these prompts once, then we can keep baiting sp2 likes we do against bishop, I'll rather take some block damage (which is quite less without any spell active) instead of doing her prompts

    Amazing, this is actually a great idea. In this case Enchantress can keep all of her abilities and potential threat, while being more manageable, and a simple change from Kabam side.

    Nice one @captain_rogers
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,455 ★★★

    Supersha7 said:

    What does kabam want us all to do - it’s just daft to have to do a version of aq raids or some sos content where we have to complete a challenge to stop ourselves from dieing vs a basic hero without nodes.

    Removal spell - intercept
    Removal spell - heavy punish
    Removal spell - knock down

    You have until she gets sp1 to do all this….feels like all the following nodes kind of all tweaked and then all rolled into one hero…

    Aq raids - unparalleled buffs - you gain a charge whenever you punish opponents heavy or special attack.
    Aq raids - modok - knock down modok to gain a raid charge when he prompts you to.

    Nodes - opponents gets 60% protection unless you knock them down with a heavy.
    Nodes - opponent gets a 60% protection unless intercepted.
    Nodes - after opponent does a special, you have 6s to do a heavy or else you take 33% dmg.

    This stuff is for nodes….not for hero kit…wth…

    Because no champion in the game has ever required being intercepted in their base kit?
    Korg . You either have to get lucky with parries or use light intercepts. Annihilus. Same situation get lucky with parries or intercept. You can't block bait heaviest either.


    Ebony maw has to be knocked down once in a while if you don't want falter. Prof x has to be punished after his specials or else you'll get a falter while hitting him and get punished.

    Fantman has to be intercepted to remove his Nano Armour buffs.


    You have to special punish Abs Man using your heavy to remove his form.


    Can't block hulkling it he'll become unblockable and get pierce. So intercepting and block baiting is the only option
    I was being sarcastic
    Supersha7 said:

    Supersha7 said:

    What does kabam want us all to do - it’s just daft to have to do a version of aq raids or some sos content where we have to complete a challenge to stop ourselves from dieing vs a basic hero without nodes.

    Removal spell - intercept
    Removal spell - heavy punish
    Removal spell - knock down

    You have until she gets sp1 to do all this….feels like all the following nodes kind of all tweaked and then all rolled into one hero…

    Aq raids - unparalleled buffs - you gain a charge whenever you punish opponents heavy or special attack.
    Aq raids - modok - knock down modok to gain a raid charge when he prompts you to.

    Nodes - opponents gets 60% protection unless you knock them down with a heavy.
    Nodes - opponent gets a 60% protection unless intercepted.
    Nodes - after opponent does a special, you have 6s to do a heavy or else you take 33% dmg.

    This stuff is for nodes….not for hero kit…wth…

    Because no champion in the game has ever required being intercepted in their base kit?
    Korg . You either have to get lucky with parries or use light intercepts. Annihilus. Same situation get lucky with parries or intercept. You can't block bait heaviest either.


    Ebony maw has to be knocked down once in a while if you don't want falter. Prof x has to be punished after his specials or else you'll get a falter while hitting him and get punished.

    Fantman has to be intercepted to remove his Nano Armour buffs.


    You have to special punish Abs Man using your heavy to remove his form.


    Can't block hulkling it he'll become unblockable and get pierce. So intercepting and block baiting is the only option


    Korg - use any energy champ. Or a mutant that can passive stun and 4 x light. No need to intercept

    Ebony maw - use any miss prevent hero, or someone who shrugs off debuffs to remove falter. No neeed to intercept,

    Fantman - use debuff remover and 4 hot combos. Or pierce champ. No need to intercept.

    Abs man - apply petrify and let him kill himself. No need to heavy.


    All these heroes have ONE thing, and they can be countered with alternatives.

    Enchantress has ALL THREE. And apart from debilitate, there is no way around it.

    Also note…debilitate I have found on 3 champs

    Spider-Man classic
    Luke cage
    Titania.

    There are ALL non stackable, so you can reduce the spell count by only 1 this way.

    So you’ll still get hit with 40% reflect dmg instead of 60% and die after her first sp1.


    Spider man gains 2 debilitate when awakened, all you need to do is cancel 1 of the spells
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 627 ★★★
    Supersha7 said:

    Supersha7 said:

    What does kabam want us all to do - it’s just daft to have to do a version of aq raids or some sos content where we have to complete a challenge to stop ourselves from dieing vs a basic hero without nodes.

    Removal spell - intercept
    Removal spell - heavy punish
    Removal spell - knock down

    You have until she gets sp1 to do all this….feels like all the following nodes kind of all tweaked and then all rolled into one hero…

    Aq raids - unparalleled buffs - you gain a charge whenever you punish opponents heavy or special attack.
    Aq raids - modok - knock down modok to gain a raid charge when he prompts you to.

    Nodes - opponents gets 60% protection unless you knock them down with a heavy.
    Nodes - opponent gets a 60% protection unless intercepted.
    Nodes - after opponent does a special, you have 6s to do a heavy or else you take 33% dmg.

    This stuff is for nodes….not for hero kit…wth…

    Because no champion in the game has ever required being intercepted in their base kit?
    Korg . You either have to get lucky with parries or use light intercepts. Annihilus. Same situation get lucky with parries or intercept. You can't block bait heaviest either.


    Ebony maw has to be knocked down once in a while if you don't want falter. Prof x has to be punished after his specials or else you'll get a falter while hitting him and get punished.

    Fantman has to be intercepted to remove his Nano Armour buffs.


    You have to special punish Abs Man using your heavy to remove his form.


    Can't block hulkling it he'll become unblockable and get pierce. So intercepting and block baiting is the only option


    Korg - use any energy champ. Or a mutant that can passive stun and 4 x light. No need to intercept

    Ebony maw - use any miss prevent hero, or someone who shrugs off debuffs to remove falter. No neeed to intercept,

    Fantman - use debuff remover and 4 hot combos. Or pierce champ. No need to intercept.

    Abs man - apply petrify and let him kill himself. No need to heavy.


    All these heroes have ONE thing, and they can be countered with alternatives.

    Enchantress has ALL THREE. And apart from debilitate, there is no way around it.

    Also note…debilitate I have found on 3 champs

    Spider-Man classic
    Luke cage
    Titania.

    There are ALL non stackable, so you can reduce the spell count by only 1 this way.

    So you’ll still get hit with 40% reflect dmg instead of 60% and die after her first sp1.


    New champ has less counters? Shocker!
  • Supersha7Supersha7 Member Posts: 245 ★★
    edited August 24
    When they came out, all those champs had counters and you just had to work out what to do as usual. But the big thing is that none of them destroyed you with sp1 if you made a mistake and don’t cancel their ability.

    Korg will damage you with thorns and with sp1.

    Fantman will damage you with power sting and with sp1

    Abs will will damage you and heal with sp1.

    Ebony maw will damage you with sp1 and of course falter you at times causing degen.

    Enchantress will kill you with sp1. There is no other option if you don’t fulfil her prompts.
  • Supersha7Supersha7 Member Posts: 245 ★★
    By design, the only direct counter to enchantress will be a hero that reflects “reflect damage”. Or that applies 3 debilitates within 10 hits.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,504 ★★★★★
    Supersha7 said:

    By design, the only direct counter to enchantress will be a hero that reflects “reflect damage”. Or that applies 3 debilitates within 10 hits.

    Luke can apply 3 debilitates but only via heavy attacks, so parry 3 heavy every sp1.
  • SuperSam568SuperSam568 Member Posts: 65
    It’s a non stacking debilitate. So you’ll only ever have one up.itll just keep resetting.


  • SuperSam568SuperSam568 Member Posts: 65
    Or so it says on Luke’s text :)
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,455 ★★★
    Supersha7 said:

    By design, the only direct counter to enchantress will be a hero that reflects “reflect damage”. Or that applies 3 debilitates within 10 hits.

    Or titanias Indestructible, or deactivating her spells which can be done with anyone
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