Realm events are a scam

How can we calculate that all participants are doing their part in realm events? How can we verify the numbers aren’t fudged by kabam? Why aren’t the reward based on progression? What’s the incentive to grind further than what’s personally required to reach each milestone?

On the positive note we’ll see what socialism does to a games economy

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JLordVileJ

Okay. Thats nice. Dont forget your tin foil hat when you leave here in a rush cuz ur getting laughed out the room

Furrymoosen

I'd love to see your tinfoil hat collection. It's probably Guinness worthy.

Rockaflockaflow

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

BringPopcorn

How can we calculate that all participants are doing their part in realm events? How can we verify the numbers aren’t fudged by kabam? Why aren’t the reward based on progression? What’s the incentive to grind further than what’s personally required to reach each milestone?

On the positive note we’ll see what socialism does to a games economy

Based on the ammount of Free players crying about spenders, Capitalism doesn't work either...

Squidopus

Why would they fudge the numbers? They did a similar thing with road to the crypt and we surpassed the milestones they set so hard they had to make new ones, while we’re well behind in the current crystal cleansing event. They’ve clearly indicated that they don’t care a whole lot whether we fail or exceed the mission given to us, so we have no real reason to believe they’d mess around with these ones.

JLordVileJ

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

Okay. How about logically, there is no way to check if kabam are being nefarious and not giving us our hard earned reward or whatever, so you just have to trust them. Tommorow I will probably write a logical paragraph ripping you to shreds but I'm sick, tired and just want to go to bed. Maybe to lull me to sleep you could tell me a bedtime conspiracy theory?

Squidopus

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

I suppose not. Would help if you gave us an argument though. All you have here is a claim with nothing behind it.

Furrymoosen

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

Baseless arguments aren't valid either.

There's no reason to believe that Kabam would manipulate the numbers.
The rewards are participation based, which will be just as useful as progression based. Lower progressions will have a harder time earning points, so they will ultimately earn less rewards, but have the wonderful option of spending more time to earn more because they aren't capping them.
The incentive to grind is helping earn the milestones and better ranked rewards.
There's nothing wrong with having content that helps players care about helping each other.

PantherusNZ

Is the Socialism in the room with us now?

HuskerCool

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument
Okay. How about logically, there is no way to check if kabam are being nefarious and not giving us our hard earned reward or whatever, so you just have to trust them. Tommorow I will probably write a logical paragraph ripping you to shreds but I'm sick, tired and just want to go to bed. Maybe to lull me to sleep you could tell me a bedtime conspiracy theory?

I’m looking forward to seeing this

BringPopcorn

Kabam didn't cheat us on the Necro road to the crypt. That didn't even have an actual ingame counter, and they are going to choose to cheat us now?...how many rolls of aluminum did you use to make your hat?

Funk

You don’t know what a scam is.

pseudosane

Keep political terms out of game forums, thanks.

HuskerCool

What term is “political?”

Rockaflockaflow

Keep political terms out of game forums, thanks.

It’s not political it’s economics

BringPopcorn

Keep political terms out of game forums, thanks.
It’s not political it’s economics

It's actually both can't have one without the other

pseudosane

Keep political terms out of game forums, thanks.
It’s not political it’s economics

Calling a company socialist is such a joke.
A company makes its "own" rules, does not have to listen to a user like yourself.
Using political terms that you dont really understand just because dumb politicians are using it, is quite funny.
either ways, keep it out of the forums.

DonkeyKong

How can we calculate that all participants are doing their part in realm events? How can we verify the numbers aren’t fudged by kabam? Why aren’t the reward based on progression? What’s the incentive to grind further than what’s personally required to reach each milestone?

On the positive note we’ll see what socialism does to a games economy

1) Idk, trust them i guess

2) again just have to trust them

3) the rewards are definitely for higher tier players. Lower progression players will struggle big time reaching the min contribution points, so thats probably why they were happy with not making it progression based. Also if they somehow do manage to get all min contribution points, then it’s deserved honestly, they would have to grind like hell to get that 5000 points considering how the points are distributed.

4) you most likely won’t reach 5000 points only
within victory track, so you’ll be playing quite a lot of matches throughout the month. If somehow you manage to do it within the first week then you also have the opportunity to continue for rank rewards or moving further in GC. If somehow you manage to get all 5000 points within VT, then your incentive is what i just mentioned + deathless piece as well as the banquet ticket that come every 48 hours

Nemesis_17

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

Neither is speculation

houndogακι

What term is “political?”

Some people don't like read words like capitalism (from their iphones) and socialism (in a social game forum
😯

BringPopcorn

What term is “political?”
Some people don't like read words like capitalism (from their iphones) and socialism (in a social game forum
😯

Some people are ignorant enough to think socialism is linked to a social game forum...

HuskerCool

What term is “political?”
Some people don't like read words like capitalism (from their iphones) and socialism (in a social game forum
😯

I had forgotten those words had been used in the thread, and thought @pseudosane was referring to “scam.”

DrZola

Not sure if they are a scam or a communist plot and I don’t really care. It appears I will get potentially decent extra stuff for doing what I might normally do.

That’s fine. I don’t plan to get my blood pressure up regardless of what happens.

Dr. Zola

DNA3000

How can we calculate that all participants are doing their part in realm events? How can we verify the numbers aren’t fudged by kabam? Why aren’t the reward based on progression? What’s the incentive to grind further than what’s personally required to reach each milestone?

On the positive note we’ll see what socialism does to a games economy

1. You can't.

2. You can't.

3. Because.

4. cf: Prisoner's dilemma, Nash equilibrium.

5. Realm events aren't something Kabam invented for MCOC. Realm events are something noticeably absent from MCOC that you typically find in most massively multiplayer games of similar nature. Other socialistic elements to the game: Alliance Quest, Alliance War, Summoner Advancement.

Years ago when I first started playing MCOC I made an observation. I said MCOC is not an advanced fighting game. It is an immature MMO. And every year MCOC does things that almost every MMO does eventually, and people are consistently either surprised, or assume Kabam is just making it up. Only someone who was born yesterday and for whom MCOC is their whole online gaming experience would see Realm Event and think Socialism.

How can we trust the Realm event counters to not be lying to us? The same reason we can trust virtually every slot machine in virtually every casino in the world. Slot machines are licenses to print money. Only a complete idiot would try to cheat with one just to make a few more dollars. Hundreds of thousands of people play MCOC and collectively spend hundreds of millions of dollars on it. There is zero incentive to deliberately rig a score counter in a game mode that they control the amount of points players earn per match in.

Rockaflockaflow

Keep political terms out of game forums, thanks.
It’s not political it’s economics

Calling a company socialist is such a joke.
A company makes its "own" rules, does not have to listen to a user like yourself.
Using political terms that you dont really understand just because dumb politicians are using it, is quite funny.
either ways, keep it out of the forums.

I wouldn’t trust Wikipedia they really fell off lately.
Socialism is indeed a form of economy. I’ll attach a link for Webster’s definition below
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

SirGamesBond

I prefer feminist. There's more drama and comedy. I like drama + comedy. I don't like drama alone.

ToniXD_16

I swear the nonsense on these forums gets worse by the day

Pikolu

I swear the nonsense on these forums gets worse by the day

Ourobøros

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

You don't even have a valid argument, what you're talking about?

CROSSHAIRS

Throwing insults isn’t a valid argument

Keep your opinion to yourself man 🤓