The exclusion is real

Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118
edited December 12 in General Discussion
Why is it that Cavlier or the Uncollected is excluded from their own ranking-rewards😮‍💨?


Why isn't that we inbetween Thronebreaker or Conqueror (Cavalier & the Uncollected) are not getting also units from those milstone selectors? Why are we forced to be still on Conqueror perspective?

Is our titles not recognised the same as the ones above and below us? Is our title not good enough for you?

Exclusion is not motivation, its just playing mean & hurtful.

Thanks for reading😟😞.

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  • Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118
    Shamir51 said:

    Why is it that Cavlier or the Uncollected is excluded from their own ranking-rewards😮‍💨?


    Why isn't that we inbetween Thronebreaker or Conqueror (Cavalier & the Uncollected) are not getting also units from those milstone selectors? Why are we forced to be still on Conqueror perspective?

    Is our titles not recognised the same as the ones above and below us? Is our title not good enough for you?

    Exclusion is not motivation, its just playing mean & hurtful.

    Thanks for reading😟😞.

    Cavs and UC aren't moving down to Conqueror level, but Conqueror are moved up to UC and Cav level.

    Also if you're unhappy with rewards at Cavalier level, there's this groundbreaking thing you can do about it... progress up to TB.
    Thank you for your input😟.

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    Its about recognition of our current titles. That we are seen in the game what every level we maybe on, not just shoved to side like leftover bones, okay?

    Our motivation and value are different in the game and thats okay. What is not okay is being pressured or pushed to side. Exclusion is still exclusion.
  • arifin74arifin74 Member Posts: 285 ★★
    The Cavalier (Cav) title was most meaningful when it was introduced as the highest rank in the game. At that time, players who achieved Cav status enjoyed greater rewards and felt a sense of accomplishment. The introduction of the Thronebreaker (TB) title marked an evolution in the game, pushing the boundaries for higher-level progression. For players who had been Cav for over a year, TB provided a new target to strive for, effectively diminishing the exclusive prestige of the Cav title.

    New players also benefited from this progression system, as it gave them a clear goal: to push for these titles and enjoy the rewards associated with them. Each title represented hard work and dedication. Reaching a new milestone was an achievement that often took months of preparation and years of roster building. However, as the game grew, the path to achieving these titles became progressively easier. What once required extensive effort could now be accomplished within a week, thanks to easier content, better champions, and an abundance of resources.

    Over time, previous titles like Cav have become more like checkpoints rather than end goals. Players now progress to Valiant or higher, hitting these milestones as part of their journey. It’s a nostalgic reminder of how rewards and progression have improved over the years. Rewards that were once considered exceptional are now outdated in the current in-game economy. To address this, the game has provided better rewards at lower levels compared to when those titles were first introduced.

    However, it wouldn’t make sense for the game to create granular divisions for each title progression. Instead, the developers have merged lower-tier rewards into higher-tier progressions, making the system more streamlined. For example, when a player becomes a Conqueror, they can already start enjoying rewards at a Cavalier level.

    The era of enjoying the Cav title passed five years ago. Now, the game encourages players to aim for Valiant and beyond, reflecting how it continues to evolve and challenge its community.
  • Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118

    Shamir51 said:

    Why is it that Cavlier or the Uncollected is excluded from their own ranking-rewards😮‍💨?


    Why isn't that we inbetween Thronebreaker or Conqueror (Cavalier & the Uncollected) are not getting also units from those milstone selectors? Why are we forced to be still on Conqueror perspective?

    Is our titles not recognised the same as the ones above and below us? Is our title not good enough for you?

    Exclusion is not motivation, its just playing mean & hurtful.

    Thanks for reading😟😞.

    Cavs and UC aren't moving down to Conqueror level, but Conqueror are moved up to UC and Cav level.

    Also if you're unhappy with rewards at Cavalier level, there's this groundbreaking thing you can do about it... progress up to TB.
    Thank you for your input😟.

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    Its about recognition of our current titles. That we are seen in the game what every level we maybe on, not just shoved to side like leftover bones, okay?

    Our motivation and value are different in the game and thats okay. What is not okay is being pressured or pushed to side. Exclusion is still exclusion.
    Remember what we talked about last time? If you want to take your time and progress at whatever pace you want, do it and enjoy it. But if you're going to complain about the rewards available to you when it is fully within your control to do something about it, then you need to progress or leave it alone.
    Valiants, currently the highest level achievable in the game, still share 95% of their rewards with Paragons and in many cases even Thronebreakers. The difference is, we can't do anything about it. We're just stuck either getting weak rewards or watching others achieve rewards above their level.
    Hi Furrymoonsen👋🙂😃.

    Its not about rewards (okay, maybe the units🤏but thats beside point😅), its about seeing our titles also in milstone selectors.

    I can't just turn a blind eye and keep something that bothers me bottled-up (its not healthy). I can tell, re-reading my words but in this context I'm not complaining, I'm letting it know the Cavalier community & the Uncollected community are being ignored, excluded from being on the list of selectors.

    Even some YouTube content creators say below Thronebreaker, our rewards are "bad or they suck." That can be taken very harshly even when they didn't mean it to be a awful statement, bit it come out as that.

    Not seeing the my title, Cavalier. It felt like I'm not seen. It feels like I'm not being heard. Recognition in the game on those titles still have value to some in game. Its a motivate burning light.

    I know it's not every months or every event when the Cavalier or Uncollected community is out in selector situation. However, the 10 years celebration of the Battlerealm is not including us in the process milstone selector. the Uncollected was Higher, the Cavalier was Higher before Thronebreaker, before Paragon & before Valiant . So, to see it not being also getting honor and shared selections with their fellow titles. Its not really celebrating with everyone, is it?

    Thanks for reading🙂😟
  • Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118
    edited December 12
    arifin74 said:

    The Cavalier (Cav) title was most meaningful when it was introduced as the highest rank in the game. At that time, players who achieved Cav status enjoyed greater rewards and felt a sense of accomplishment. The introduction of the Thronebreaker (TB) title marked an evolution in the game, pushing the boundaries for higher-level progression. For players who had been Cav for over a year, TB provided a new target to strive for, effectively diminishing the exclusive prestige of the Cav title.

    New players also benefited from this progression system, as it gave them a clear goal: to push for these titles and enjoy the rewards associated with them. Each title represented hard work and dedication. Reaching a new milestone was an achievement that often took months of preparation and years of roster building. However, as the game grew, the path to achieving these titles became progressively easier. What once required extensive effort could now be accomplished within a week, thanks to easier content, better champions, and an abundance of resources.

    Over time, previous titles like Cav have become more like checkpoints rather than end goals. Players now progress to Valiant or higher, hitting these milestones as part of their journey. It’s a nostalgic reminder of how rewards and progression have improved over the years. Rewards that were once considered exceptional are now outdated in the current in-game economy. To address this, the game has provided better rewards at lower levels compared to when those titles were first introduced.

    However, it wouldn’t make sense for the game to create granular divisions for each title progression. Instead, the developers have merged lower-tier rewards into higher-tier progressions, making the system more streamlined. For example, when a player becomes a Conqueror, they can already start enjoying rewards at a Cavalier level.

    The era of enjoying the Cav title passed five years ago. Now, the game encourages players to aim for Valiant and beyond, reflecting how it continues to evolve and challenge its community.

    Thanks for that insight🥺 and another side to the logic perspective of things.

    Titles are now checkpoints❤️‍🩹. Titles are not valued❤️‍🩹. I can accept that side in time💔.
    🚪🚶 |🚶🚪| 🚶🌳
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,757 ★★★★★
    edited December 12
    Bro will yap instead of doing story content. 💀

    Like you said, Cavs and uncollected are really not the place to be, you should be doing everything you can to leave that asap and be at the very least TB.

    THEN learn and work your way to Paragon, once done, being Valiant is much easier.

    Beating grandmaster is the real gatekeep.

    There's no need to CeleBrAtE being a Cav, that's a joke title, plain and simple, work your way out of it.
  • MasquiradeMasquirade Member Posts: 227 ★★
    edited December 12

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    I empathise with this part so much - I came back this account as uncollected July 2023, didn't hit Cavalier until October, then roughly hit a progression level every 3 months until eventually getting Valiant in the middle of this year. What was really important for me was feeling like I deserved to be at the progression level I was at. If I could have clicked my fingers and made myself Paragon when I came back, it wouldn't mean that I knew how to take any particularly tricky defenders or nodes in war for example. We've all played with people who's in game rank doesn't necessarily reflect their skill level, I'm definitely a better player for taking my time.

    The game will naturally push you forwards, keep playing as you are but do understand you will miss out on some rewards as you do so. Good luck dude 🤙
  • ToniXD_16ToniXD_16 Member Posts: 193
    Just a way to try and get you to push which imo isnt a bad thing
  • MasquiradeMasquirade Member Posts: 227 ★★
    edited December 12
    PT_99 said:

    Bro will yap instead of doing story content. 💀

    Like you said, Cavs and uncollected are really not the place to be, you should be doing everything you can to leave that asap and be at the very least TB.

    THEN learn and work your way to Paragon, once done, being Valiant is much easier.

    Beating grandmaster is the real gatekeep.

    There's no need to CeleBrAtE being a Cav, that's a joke title, plain and simple, work your way out of it.


    I'd say you've got a pretty unhealthy attitude about this tbh. People play the game in different ways, some get stuck, some have more time than others. Don't tell people what they've worked towards is a joke, you were there once.
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,438 ★★★★★

    Is our title not good enough for you?

    Yes indeed
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,413 ★★★★★
    edited December 12

    Shamir51 said:

    Why is it that Cavlier or the Uncollected is excluded from their own ranking-rewards😮‍💨?


    Why isn't that we inbetween Thronebreaker or Conqueror (Cavalier & the Uncollected) are not getting also units from those milstone selectors? Why are we forced to be still on Conqueror perspective?

    Is our titles not recognised the same as the ones above and below us? Is our title not good enough for you?

    Exclusion is not motivation, its just playing mean & hurtful.

    Thanks for reading😟😞.

    Cavs and UC aren't moving down to Conqueror level, but Conqueror are moved up to UC and Cav level.

    Also if you're unhappy with rewards at Cavalier level, there's this groundbreaking thing you can do about it... progress up to TB.
    Thank you for your input😟.

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    Its about recognition of our current titles. That we are seen in the game what every level we maybe on, not just shoved to side like leftover bones, okay?

    Our motivation and value are different in the game and thats okay. What is not okay is being pressured or pushed to side. Exclusion is still exclusion.
    Remember what we talked about last time? If you want to take your time and progress at whatever pace you want, do it and enjoy it. But if you're going to complain about the rewards available to you when it is fully within your control to do something about it, then you need to progress or leave it alone.
    Valiants, currently the highest level achievable in the game, still share 95% of their rewards with Paragons and in many cases even Thronebreakers. The difference is, we can't do anything about it. We're just stuck either getting weak rewards or watching others achieve rewards above their level.
    Hi Furrymoonsen👋🙂😃.

    Its not about rewards (okay, maybe the units🤏but thats beside point😅), its about seeing our titles also in milstone selectors.

    I can't just turn a blind eye and keep something that bothers me bottled-up (its not healthy). I can tell, re-reading my words but in this context I'm not complaining, I'm letting it know the Cavalier community & the Uncollected community are being ignored, excluded from being on the list of selectors.

    Even some YouTube content creators say below Thronebreaker, our rewards are "bad or they suck." That can be taken very harshly even when they didn't mean it to be a awful statement, bit it come out as that.

    Not seeing the my title, Cavalier. It felt like I'm not seen. It feels like I'm not being heard. Recognition in the game on those titles still have value to some in game. Its a motivate burning light.

    I know it's not every months or every event when the Cavalier or Uncollected community is out in selector situation. However, the 10 years celebration of the Battlerealm is not including us in the process milstone selector. the Uncollected was Higher, the Cavalier was Higher before Thronebreaker, before Paragon & before Valiant . So, to see it not being also getting honor and shared selections with their fellow titles. Its not really celebrating with everyone, is it?

    Thanks for reading🙂😟
    It's a complaint about rewards even if your complaint isn't directly about the quality of the rewards. You're complaining about not being special and having to share rewards with lower progressions. Like I pointed out, even the highest progression in the game still gets stuck sharing rewards with lower progressions the overwhelming majority of the time.
    One thing that's important to note, the rewards you're getting in those selectors, even though they are shared with lower progressions, are better than anything Cavs would've gotten when the progression first launched. They're literally trying to keep players from staying put because players that are further progressed will always be further invested into continuing to play the game.

    Like I've said before, if you want to take your time, you do you. No one in this game is going to be upset by a player finding joy in the pace they've chosen to put forth. If anything, such painstaking patience can be admirable. But stop complaining about not getting special treatment or special rewards for a progression title that has been outdated for half of the game's life.
  • Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    I empathise with this part so much - I came back this account as uncollected July 2023, didn't hit Cavalier until October, then roughly hit a progression level every 3 months until eventually getting Valiant in the middle of this year. What was really important for me was feeling like I deserved to be at the progression level I was at. If I could have clicked my fingers and made myself Paragon when I came back, it wouldn't mean that I knew how to take any particularly tricky defenders or nodes in war for example. We've all played with people who's in game rank doesn't necessarily reflect their skill level, I'm definitely a better player for taking my time.

    The game will naturally push you forwards, keep playing as you are but do understand you will miss out on some rewards as you do so. Good luck dude 🤙
    Thank you🥹🥹. For the couragment words and inspiration of your progress. Its good to know.


  • Gordon_X602Gordon_X602 Member Posts: 118
    edited December 12

    Shamir51 said:

    Why is it that Cavlier or the Uncollected is excluded from their own ranking-rewards😮‍💨?


    Why isn't that we inbetween Thronebreaker or Conqueror (Cavalier & the Uncollected) are not getting also units from those milstone selectors? Why are we forced to be still on Conqueror perspective?

    Is our titles not recognised the same as the ones above and below us? Is our title not good enough for you?

    Exclusion is not motivation, its just playing mean & hurtful.

    Thanks for reading😟😞.

    Cavs and UC aren't moving down to Conqueror level, but Conqueror are moved up to UC and Cav level.

    Also if you're unhappy with rewards at Cavalier level, there's this groundbreaking thing you can do about it... progress up to TB.
    Thank you for your input😟.

    Fortunately, I reach my goal as Cavalier for the year. I don't believe in rush progress without full living in the title. Its not about better or bad rewards.

    Its about recognition of our current titles. That we are seen in the game what every level we maybe on, not just shoved to side like leftover bones, okay?

    Our motivation and value are different in the game and thats okay. What is not okay is being pressured or pushed to side. Exclusion is still exclusion.
    Remember what we talked about last time? If you want to take your time and progress at whatever pace you want, do it and enjoy it. But if you're going to complain about the rewards available to you when it is fully within your control to do something about it, then you need to progress or leave it alone.
    Valiants, currently the highest level achievable in the game, still share 95% of their rewards with Paragons and in many cases even Thronebreakers. The difference is, we can't do anything about it. We're just stuck either getting weak rewards or watching others achieve rewards above their level.
    Hi Furrymoonsen👋🙂😃.

    Its not about rewards (okay, maybe the units🤏but thats beside point😅), its about seeing our titles also in milstone selectors.

    I can't just turn a blind eye and keep something that bothers me bottled-up (its not healthy). I can tell, re-reading my words but in this context I'm not complaining, I'm letting it know the Cavalier community & the Uncollected community are being ignored, excluded from being on the list of selectors.

    Even some YouTube content creators say below Thronebreaker, our rewards are "bad or they suck." That can be taken very harshly even when they didn't mean it to be a awful statement, bit it come out as that.

    Not seeing the my title, Cavalier. It felt like I'm not seen. It feels like I'm not being heard. Recognition in the game on those titles still have value to some in game. Its a motivate burning light.

    I know it's not every months or every event when the Cavalier or Uncollected community is out in selector situation. However, the 10 years celebration of the Battlerealm is not including us in the process milstone selector. the Uncollected was Higher, the Cavalier was Higher before Thronebreaker, before Paragon & before Valiant . So, to see it not being also getting honor and shared selections with their fellow titles. Its not really celebrating with everyone, is it?

    Thanks for reading🙂😟
    It's a complaint about rewards even if your complaint isn't directly about the quality of the rewards. You're complaining about not being special and having to share rewards with lower progressions. Like I pointed out, even the highest progression in the game still gets stuck sharing rewards with lower progressions the overwhelming majority of the time.
    One thing that's important to note, the rewards you're getting in those selectors, even though they are shared with lower progressions, are better than anything Cavs would've gotten when the progression first launched. They're literally trying to keep players from staying put because players that are further progressed will always be further invested into continuing to play the game.

    Like I've said before, if you want to take your time, you do you. No one in this game is going to be upset by a player finding joy in the pace they've chosen to put forth. If anything, such painstaking patience can be admirable. But stop complaining about not getting special treatment or special rewards for a progression title that has been outdated for half of the game's life.
    One word, "recognition🙌."

    Thanks for sharing & your input🙂.
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 739 ★★★
    They are there to show u what u are Missing if u are stuck in your current progression. If u want those reward get to next progression LOL
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