Math ain't mathin at Kabam

Kabam, This "Trade" Offer is a Complete Insult to Valiants!

Are you kidding us, Kabam? You expect us to trade ONE precious 6* Awakening Gem for ONE 7* Signature Stone? That’s not just a bad deal—it’s outright disrespectful to your player base.

Let’s break this down:
We get ONE 6* Awakening Gem a month. That’s ONE gem to awaken a 6* champion of our choice—something with real, game-changing value. And you’re telling us we should give that up for ONE measly 7* Signature Stone?! A stone that barely moves the needle on any 7* champion’s abilities?

Even if we sell every single gem we earn, which is ONE A MONTH, it takes an entire year of sacrificing gems just to add a small bump to ONE 7* champion's sig level. This “trade” is not only unfair, but it’s also laughably impractical.

What’s worse is the complete lack of respect for how much effort goes into earning those gems. Awakening Gems are rare and pivotal resources for advancing our rosters. Offering a 1:1 ratio is a slap in the face to anyone who’s spent time grinding and investing in the game.

Kabam, if you want to make this a real offer, the trade should be at least 10–15 Signature Stones per Awakening Gem. THAT would make sense and actually give players a reason to consider the exchange.

Right now, this "offer" is nothing but a joke. Do better. Respect your players.

Comments

cscale0725_gmail

I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.

Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really

BringPopcorn

@Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.

If you find the content to get 1 6* AG "hard to get" then this deal is definitely not meant for you.

Wubbie075

I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.
Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really

Please tell me why it is insulting. Seriously, I want to understand this.

Do you honestly believe that every single offer Kabam promotes must be exactly what you want it to be? Do you not realize that if every offer was perfect for you, they would not be perfect for other people? If you get your perfect offer, should those other people feel insulted? Or is that privilege reserved only for you?

Average_Desi

@Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

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Past efforts don't count. A 4* crystal used to cost 2000 units. You would get laughed at if you expected it to stay at the same value even now

Funk

If a single 6 star awakening gem is game changing for you, then you have no use for 7 star stones. This is for people with loads of resource sitting about,

M0NKEYNUTS

I think some folks either forgot or started playing after the infamous time limited trade in store where you could trade 5* awakening gems for 6* awakening gems. There was at the time, as there always is, much uproar about favoritism towards end game players and whales, and that no one outside of those two subgroups would benefit.

Demonzfyre

@Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.

There's no math to use. It doesn't matter where you can obtain 6* AGs. They are not factoring in where and how often you can get 6* AGs.

The ONLY reason this trade in exists is because the have the data there's players out there with hundreds of 6* AGs and nothing those players can use them for. And you have to be Valiant. Those are the only 3 factors that went into this decision.

The economy team didn't factor in you having 15. You weren't the target for this. The only factor you bring is you're valiant. The goal wasn't to bring any sort of balance. The goal is to allow those with enough AGs to have a decent trade in.

You're trying to put a square peg into a non-existent hole. You're inventing things in your head and trying to apply them to this store.

Again this store is for-
Valiants
Players with so many 6* AGs they can use them.
Players who will never use 6* AGs.

If these don't match you, then it's for you.

M0NKEYNUTS

@Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

It would not be balanced for those this trade in was meant for. You would be handing end game/whale players 5x the sig stones?

I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

If there are many AGs in a player's inventory, Kabam did not devalue them. The player's progression through the game naturally did so.

P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.

You get used to his forum style after a while.

Demonzfyre

I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.
Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really

Crashed runs the economy team. So yeah, it matters a bit what he says.

Jack2634

i had like 30 unused generic gem. I mean, 30 7 star sig stones is def better than 30 6 star awakening gem for me, thats for sure. But a 1:1 ratio is wild. At least make it 1:4, 1:5. This is just too bad.

BloodyRose

Please tell me why it is insulting. Seriously, I want to understand this.

Do you honestly believe that every single offer Kabam promotes must be exactly what you want it to be? Do you not realize that if every offer was perfect for you, they would not be perfect for other people? If you get your perfect offer, should those other people feel insulted? Or is that privilege reserved only for you?