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Math ain't mathin at Kabam

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  • cscale0725_gmailcscale0725_gmail Member Posts: 113

    I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

    If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

    Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.

    Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,387 ★★★★★

    @Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

    It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
    6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

    That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

    All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

    I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

    P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.

    If you find the content to get 1 6* AG "hard to get" then this deal is definitely not meant for you.
  • Wubbie075Wubbie075 Member Posts: 763 ★★★

    I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

    If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

    Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.

    Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really
    Please tell me why it is insulting. Seriously, I want to understand this.

    Do you honestly believe that every single offer Kabam promotes must be exactly what you want it to be? Do you not realize that if every offer was perfect for you, they would not be perfect for other people? If you get your perfect offer, should those other people feel insulted? Or is that privilege reserved only for you?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★★

    @Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

    it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

    .

    Past efforts don't count. A 4* crystal used to cost 2000 units. You would get laughed at if you expected it to stay at the same value even now
  • FunkFunk Member Posts: 104
    If a single 6 star awakening gem is game changing for you, then you have no use for 7 star stones. This is for people with loads of resource sitting about,
  • M0NKEYNUTSM0NKEYNUTS Member Posts: 250 ★★
    I think some folks either forgot or started playing after the infamous time limited trade in store where you could trade 5* awakening gems for 6* awakening gems. There was at the time, as there always is, much uproar about favoritism towards end game players and whales, and that no one outside of those two subgroups would benefit.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,571 ★★★★★

    @Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

    It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
    6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

    That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

    All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

    I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

    P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.

    There's no math to use. It doesn't matter where you can obtain 6* AGs. They are not factoring in where and how often you can get 6* AGs.

    The ONLY reason this trade in exists is because the have the data there's players out there with hundreds of 6* AGs and nothing those players can use them for. And you have to be Valiant. Those are the only 3 factors that went into this decision.

    The economy team didn't factor in you having 15. You weren't the target for this. The only factor you bring is you're valiant. The goal wasn't to bring any sort of balance. The goal is to allow those with enough AGs to have a decent trade in.

    You're trying to put a square peg into a non-existent hole. You're inventing things in your head and trying to apply them to this store.

    Again this store is for-
    Valiants
    Players with so many 6* AGs they can use them.
    Players who will never use 6* AGs.

    If these don't match you, then it's for you.
  • M0NKEYNUTSM0NKEYNUTS Member Posts: 250 ★★
    edited January 12

    @Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

    It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
    6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

    That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

    All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

    It would not be balanced for those this trade in was meant for. You would be handing end game/whale players 5x the sig stones?
    I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.
    If there are many AGs in a player's inventory, Kabam did not devalue them. The player's progression through the game naturally did so.
    P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.
    You get used to his forum style after a while.

  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,571 ★★★★★

    I assume you haven't read the mega thread where Crashed explained everything.

    If you still value your 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    If you don't have a ton of 6* AGs, then this isn't for you.

    It's very simple really. Crashed made it very clear who this store is for. There are a number of players who have over a hundred AGs. This is for those players. They have all the 6*'s duped, they have probably all their 7*'s duped and what is more important, is sig stones for prestige.

    Just because something is available to Valiants, doesn't mean it's for every Valiant that's out there.

    Doesn't matter what Crash said, It's still insulting. I have no use for 6* AGs and I understand exactly what you're saying but I feel like they could have at least made it a +5 sig stone. Having said that I also think it's not worth getting angry about. It's no big deal really
    Crashed runs the economy team. So yeah, it matters a bit what he says.
  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 968 ★★★
    i had like 30 unused generic gem. I mean, 30 7 star sig stones is def better than 30 6 star awakening gem for me, thats for sure. But a 1:1 ratio is wild. At least make it 1:4, 1:5. This is just too bad.
  • BloodyRoseBloodyRose Member Posts: 255
    Wubbie075 said:



    Please tell me why it is insulting. Seriously, I want to understand this.

    Do you honestly believe that every single offer Kabam promotes must be exactly what you want it to be? Do you not realize that if every offer was perfect for you, they would not be perfect for other people? If you get your perfect offer, should those other people feel insulted? Or is that privilege reserved only for you?


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