Medium Intercept Appreciation Post

BigBlueOx · March 14

Two things on this:

1.)Thank You. It’s a well written post that made me feel less crazy all those times I felt the animations weren’t working right. And at no point does it blame summoners for how we play… which was amazing to see.

2.) More like this please.

Average_Desi · March 14

Agreed. It was annoying when you get hit and you think to yourself "This definitely should've landed. It did land when I did. It before the update"

Pandingo · March 14

I was seriously wondering about this. I keep getting 'intercepted' by the AI when they are BLOCKING. Its been infuriating 🤣🤣 im like...no i definitely made contact

Herbal_Taxman · March 14

Getting light intercepted (what you are referencing) isn’t the same thing as the medium issue. They actually call out the light intercepting as a separate problem entirely.

Personally, I don’t fault them for the light intercepts in the same way. Yes, it’s annoying, but light intercepting out of block is also something WE can do if we choose to try it. Losing the medium intercept because of a frame rate issue is a totally different kind of error.

TheUglyone123 · March 14

Agreed, reading that post was both informative and encouraging knowing that Kabam knows this bug is going on. I greatly appreciated how it was explained and phrased

Nemesis_17 · March 14

It was a humongenourmous W fr fr

ButteredPopcorn8008 · March 14

Will we get weekly compensation for this issue?

Toproller89 · March 14

It’s a step in the right direction that the problem has been acknowledged and the cause was articulated, but it begs the question, will there be some form of compensation for this game not working as they intended, and for as long as it has?

Doctor_Strange19 · March 14

This post was awesome! I love game design and MCOC is my favorite game, so it was awesome to get a peek under the hood of the game. Keep these posts coming, they’re great!

Penzito · March 14

Are they saying its only a problem on 60fps or was it the change for 60fps? I play on 30fps and have had problems with this, but mostly only since the January update. I can't recall it being a problem before that, and my experience really went downhill after January patch.

Average_Desi · March 14

This is from the January patch notes. Only after this did I start having issues.

captain_rogers · March 14

What post?

rsmsd · March 14

captain_rogers said:
What post?

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/391180/medium-intercept-issue#latest

BeastDad · March 14

Out of all the annoying things that have happened, parry and this problem have been the absolute worst.

There is zero excuse for fundamental aspects of the game not working over long periods of time.

FeydRautha · March 14

Although this issue has occurred to me few times, it's still great that they are acknowledging the issue and actively working for a fix. I hope they are also looking at fair compensation cause a bug that affects one of the most integral aspect of the core gameplay is a serious matter.

Twist1298 · March 14

It definitely does give insight necessary to what happened and how they plan to address it. The fact that Dave specifically is the one breaking things down of how the animations work in detail is kinda poetic and is how I imagine the possibility of YTbers who work for Kabam to play out. Those who play the game on a intense level being able to help give a necessary voice and viewpoint for the player base. I hope this type of interaction continues because it will go a long way in restoring faith imo. Well done

Friendly001 · March 14

Midium Intercept more like, light intercept better.

Searmenis · March 14

Well, it is nice, but with this rythme we ll have a decent gameplay in 5 years. (I m talking about the "another time" part of the post).
Plus, ok, let s hope the light intercepts are gone, what about the dashing back of the defender when you intercept, and hitting you a millisecond after your dashing forward ends? Is this another issue as well? @KabamDORK

BostonSpidey124 · March 14

I don’t know how I feel about it. On the one hand, I do truly appreciate the acknowledgement and the explanation. On the other hand, how long has this been issue? It doesn’t feel like it started when the game offered 60 fps but the explanation suggests it did. How is the team taking steps to prevent issues like this coming up again? It feels like almost every update is changing core mechanics. Beroman has a video where he shows that either Peni Parker’s Medium 1 or the punishing window for Wolverine (Weapon X) SP1 or both have been changed so that you can’t trust the gameplay.

I do really appreciate the post but it also raises more questions about what is happening and how the problems are being addressed. It would also be helpful if the issues were acknowledged when they first arise so the players can be aware. If players know that intercepts aren’t reliable, we can avoid it as much as is possible or at least be aware of the risk.

SirGamesBond · March 14

No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.

KabamDORK · March 14

SirGamesBond said:
No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.

In a bug report, we need to be able to reproduce the bug for it to be acknowledged. If we can't reproduce it or reproduce it consistently, it remains under investigation until we can do that. There are sometimes we get videos of issues clearly happening to the individual, but if we can't take those same steps, same champs, same quests and produce the same results, we can't really acknowledge that without further investigation. That all being said, we can do a better job on transparency of this moving forward.

Average_Desi · March 14

KabamDORK said:

SirGamesBond said:
No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.
In a bug report, we need to be able to reproduce the bug for it to be acknowledged. If we can't reproduce it or reproduce it consistently, it remains under investigation until we can do that. There are sometimes we get videos of issues clearly happening to the individual, but if we can't take those same steps, same champs, same quests and produce the same results, we can't really acknowledge that without further investigation. That all being said, we can do a better job the transparency of this moving forward.

Average_Desi said:

This is from the January patch notes. Only after this did I start having issues.

Could you help understand what the difference in the January path and the upcoming April patch is?

KabamDORK · March 14

Searmenis said:
Well, it is nice, but with this rythme we ll have a decent gameplay in 5 years. (I m talking about the "another time" part of the post).
Plus, ok, let s hope the light intercepts are gone, what about the dashing back of the defender when you intercept, and hitting you a millisecond after your dashing forward ends? Is this another issue as well? @KabamDORK

No, If I'm understanding you correctly, this is what many refer to as a Side Step. You can also do this. Is this what you were referring to?

KabamDORK · March 14

BeastDad said:
Out of all the annoying things that have happened, parry and this problem have been the absolute worst.

There is zero excuse for fundamental aspects of the game not working over long periods of time.

For context, the fundamental aspect was built for 30 frames per second and only really became an issue as part of a systems upgrade to 60 frames per second which is being resolved on the next build. There are a few items that were affected by 60fps you can see on the Trello Board.

KabamDORK · March 14

Average_Desi said:

KabamDORK said:

SirGamesBond said:
No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.
In a bug report, we need to be able to reproduce the bug for it to be acknowledged. If we can't reproduce it or reproduce it consistently, it remains under investigation until we can do that. There are sometimes we get videos of issues clearly happening to the individual, but if we can't take those same steps, same champs, same quests and produce the same results, we can't really acknowledge that without further investigation. That all being said, we can do a better job the transparency of this moving forward.

Average_Desi said:

This is from the January patch notes. Only after this did I start having issues.
Could you help understand what the difference in the January path and the upcoming April patch is?

In our post to the players, we mentioned that there was an additional element to this problem that we discovered after the fix went live that attributed to similar experiences but not the exact ones we fixed previously. Front facing, this simply felt like it was still happening, but not in all the same situations as before. TLDR, we found extra stuff that was still making it happen for some players ( if not all ), and we patched it and will be shipping it with our next update.

Ashacekar · March 14

KabamDORK said:

SirGamesBond said:
No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.
In a bug report, we need to be able to reproduce the bug for it to be acknowledged. If we can't reproduce it or reproduce it consistently, it remains under investigation until we can do that. There are sometimes we get videos of issues clearly happening to the individual, but if we can't take those same steps, same champs, same quests and produce the same results, we can't really acknowledge that without further investigation. That all being said, we can do a better job the transparency of this moving forward.

Yup we can't acknowledge the tribal chief if we can't find the tribal chief. Agreed.

Herbal_Taxman · March 14

These updates are super helpful. Thank you @KabamDORK

SirGamesBond · March 14

KabamDORK said:

SirGamesBond said:
No acknowledgement unless the devs finds a fix. Hope we can change this mindset in future.
In a bug report, we need to be able to reproduce the bug for it to be acknowledged. If we can't reproduce it or reproduce it consistently, it remains under investigation until we can do that. There are sometimes we get videos of issues clearly happening to the individual, but if we can't take those same steps, same champs, same quests and produce the same results, we can't really acknowledge that without further investigation. That all being said, we can do a better job on transparency of this moving forward.

Thank you for the response of the process.
It would help too, from our side of the community to be specific when calling out a bug. We all know how a lot of players invent bugs out of thin air in forums.

This particular case, we just felt that somthing was off. It was pointed out early on but there was nothing to show for.

Bizaaro · March 14

Hey dork bro....pls give us enough revive as compensation....giving us 6 revive and 400units as milestone won't make any sense ...
U Guys should give at least 5 revive every day..till error is removed completely....pls think from our side ..if a medium intercept is broken while playing endgame contents they ko us in casual 5 hit combo...
Even with these kind of bugs we are playing mcoc and supporting you people....we definitely need a big compensation...in terms of revive

ChrisBosio · March 14

Really appreciate this! What I think I appreciate more is that all of the people that indicated they had an issue and were told by certain folks on the forums that it was a skill issue, are vindicated to a degree. Happy you guys found the issue and the fix. I do however agree with a previous post on this forum that it would be nice to have things acknowledged while in work rather than after a fix is in work. Hopefully we get a little more of that in the future.

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