Heart of Fire Apocalypse needs a tiny tiny tweak to be relevant in 2025
Yaron_aviv
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Hey guys
How about you change en sabah nur so that he starts battlegrounds with 4 charges? Both as a defender and as an attacker.
It’s not unheard of, serpent has a footnote in his description that adds charges in BG fights.
How about you change en sabah nur so that he starts battlegrounds with 4 charges? Both as a defender and as an attacker.
It’s not unheard of, serpent has a footnote in his description that adds charges in BG fights.
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At least on attack
I can fully dex his sp2 on 60fps, but with sp1 I usually block the first two beams and dex the last to punish.
But he was not intended to be (at that point of the game). He starts with 4 charges vs mutants.
He was a long questing machine.
He was useful in wars.
Im not expecting a buff. That's about it.
I do wish he started with max charges in BGs attack tho cause he'd be a viable attacker and I don't think it'd really be that broken despite what Kabam might say.
He’s otherwise useless in a major game mode. Most of our rank ups are for BG - they’re bringing a champ that was gate kept for too long and giving him new life - if he’s not good for BG he’s gonna stay at r1.
What does apoc do that onslaught doesn’t?
@KabamPinwheel Can you pass this suggestion to the game team?
Shut down Evade? (This is way more useful and reliable than people think... Although, I grant your, Onslaught shutting down Miss is equally valuable, possibly more so)
Be immune to Disorient?
Shut down Purify effects that could be turned against you? (Champs like Captain Britain and Dust, who can't Purify the debuffs they've placed on Apocalypse. There's a node that does this too; can't remember the name)
Deal with opponents on nodes like Do You Bleed, Bloody Mess, or Bleed/Poison vulnerability.
Also, fairly importantly:
You can only play with champions you've got.
So, if you've got Apocalypse and you don't have Onslaught, Apocalypse will have the huge advantage of being a champion you actually possess...
Having said all that, I agree that starting with a little more oomph in BGs would be a good thing.
I'd say +1 Genetic code starting on BGs Attack, and possibly an additional +1 as a bonus in his Sig ability.
I guess all champs are meant to represent the time they emerged in the contest. He came out when gradual ramp up champs were all the rage.
He was useful then, and on occasion he will be useful now , mostly in solo content and occasionally war.
But to get us excited, that tiny tweak will certainly do the trick. So I’m glad you agree with me on that.
Heck, they even modified IBom's interaction with mastery anticipating he will be meta as a 7*
But as @Kappa2g highlighted BGs didn’t existed when Apocalypse was initially released, and nowadays are the main focus for most players. Apocalypse lacks at BGs mainly as attacker because he is generally slow, he could use of a buff giving him the opportunity to start with more charges, to accompany his 7* release and make him even more desirable, increasing also profits for Kabam.
Win for the community, win for Kabam.
Personally, I believe 3 charges is the sweet spot for applying it to both on attack and defence at BGs 👍
Or one where he goes unstoppable when he dashes in? You're basically just dead no matter what you do.
Also if you parry light attack he won't stun you. I'm pretty sure most AI will throw heavy after a ML combo so you can punish with heavy.
There are always some metas that supercharge champs. Like you think Gentle would be fair defender in another crit me meta? Nova had like 2 counters in fury + unstoppable meta. At least apoc is not that level unfair in any meta.
Also we are talking bout bg defense strictly here and not war defense. Apoc with 4 genetic code in bgs as an attacker ain't gonna do something extraordinary especially with all these new skill champs having cleanse. So I think he can have 4 genetic code in defense, if it's OP, then 4 charges against non robots.