Medusa vs Galan

PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,406 ★★★★★
edited April 18 in General Discussion
With Galan coming as a 7*, who would be the better Dual Use champ? With respect to fight duration, and number of matchups they can take etc plus defense

Medusa vs Galan 108 votes

Galan (7*)
39%
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Medusa
60%
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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,175 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,713 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.

    No medusa is very tough on defense. There not really many autoblock counters or nullify mystics who can prevent her autoblock before she ramps up. Galan needs to throw 3 bars of special to get harvest on defense without any node help.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,713 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Will galan's burst be countered by sentinel analysis charge?
  • PickL1e89PickL1e89 Member Posts: 242 ★
    Medusa any day of the week
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 664 ★★★★
    Medusa
    Medusa unless the opponent is immune to armor break. More utility and more consistent damage but we have to see 7* Galan damage first
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,175 ★★★★★
    edited April 18
    Galan (7*)
    captain_rogers said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.

    No medusa is very tough on defense. There not really many autoblock counters or nullify mystics who can prevent her autoblock before she ramps up. Galan needs to throw 3 bars of special to get harvest on defense without any node help.
    You don't necessarily need undermine or unblockable there's also nullify, neutralize and stagger, only two of those works on Galan. Medusa is an easy defender unless there's a meta supercharging her like the unstoppable one, Galan as a 7* r4 will likely be a death sentence without another r4 nuke or a champ with neutralize, he can get to three bars of power easily before you can complete sp1 sp2 rotation with most champs.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,076 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Seems like people didn't read "dual usage"

    Idk how anyone can struggle with Medusa defender,
    Either you need to build your mystic deck up or you're just trolling.

    She could be issue if those furies were passives tho.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,713 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.

    No medusa is very tough on defense. There not really many autoblock counters or nullify mystics who can prevent her autoblock before she ramps up. Galan needs to throw 3 bars of special to get harvest on defense without any node help.
    You don't necessarily need undermine or unblockable there's also nullify, neutralize and stagger, only two of those works on Galan. Medusa is an easy defender unless there's a meta supercharging her like the unstoppable one, Galan as a 7* r4 will likely be a death sentence without another r4 nuke or a champ with neutralize, he can get to three bars of power easily before you can complete sp1 sp2 rotation with most champs.
    Yeah but not many champs can access it within 9 secs, like kush for example. If you have a counter medusa is punching bag but without one she's a big stall. But yeah r4 galan can be brutal but I forgot that you can also remove some of his charges via specials, so most r4 mystic attackers can counter him pretty well.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,167 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.

    No medusa is very tough on defense. There not really many autoblock counters or nullify mystics who can prevent her autoblock before she ramps up. Galan needs to throw 3 bars of special to get harvest on defense without any node help.
    With Galan on offence, go to sp2 with only MLM combos and throw sp2 while harvest is active. That's fast.
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 460 ★★
    Galan (7*)
    Galan is ridiculous when you think about it. Direct damage as a main source of damage is pretty good. Nullify immunity also makes him extremely handy
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,499 ★★★★★
    Medusa
    I haven't seen a serious player use Galan in a hot minute.
    But yeah I'm sure his 7* version will magically make him relevant again, even though an ascended 6 is as powerful as a 7R2 or an unawakened 7R3.
    Basically, if your 6 version has been irrelevant, your 7 version isn't going to magically change that unless you're ready to invest like an R4 or high sig R3, at which point there are a long list of mid champs that can be good at those numbers.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,546 Guardian
    Medusa
    I've won so many matches in BGs because I placed medusa on defense. Really nice in the mutant meta because people don't know she can autoblock while passive stunned
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 606 ★★★
    Galan (7*)
    TotemCorruption said:

    I haven't seen a serious player use Galan in a hot minute.
    But yeah I'm sure his 7* version will magically make him relevant again, even though an ascended 6 is as powerful as a 7R2 or an unawakened 7R3.
    Basically, if your 6 version has been irrelevant, your 7 version isn't going to magically change that unless you're ready to invest like an R4 or high sig R3, at which point there are a long list of mid champs that can be good at those numbers.

    Galans burst damage scales with his rank so a r3 galan 7* is going to do a heck of alot more damage than a r5 ascended 6*
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,167 ★★★★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    I haven't seen a serious player use Galan in a hot minute.
    But yeah I'm sure his 7* version will magically make him relevant again, even though an ascended 6 is as powerful as a 7R2 or an unawakened 7R3.
    Basically, if your 6 version has been irrelevant, your 7 version isn't going to magically change that unless you're ready to invest like an R4 or high sig R3, at which point there are a long list of mid champs that can be good at those numbers.

    Unawakened does not matter while comparing his equivalency with a 6*
  • AyemeboiAyemeboi Member Posts: 128 ★★
    Medusa
    PT_99 said:

    Seems like people didn't read "dual usage"

    Idk how anyone can struggle with Medusa defender,
    Either you need to build your mystic deck up or you're just trolling.

    She could be issue if those furies were passives tho.

    This same thing could be said about Galan. If you have a good mystic then he can’t gain any buffs and he becomes an easy fight.

    While both aren’t the greatest on defense, a max planetary charged Galan at r4 only does 422k damage. That’s 1/3 of most quest health pools. While he does have his benefits, the amount of time it takes to build up to that point would be a while unless the defender has armor up buffs. I can see him being great for BGs, but Medusa is also just as great. I think Medusa is overall the better champion just because of how quick her rotation is, but Galan still will be nice for smaller healthpools.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,713 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    TotemCorruption said:

    I haven't seen a serious player use Galan in a hot minute.
    But yeah I'm sure his 7* version will magically make him relevant again, even though an ascended 6 is as powerful as a 7R2 or an unawakened 7R3.
    Basically, if your 6 version has been irrelevant, your 7 version isn't going to magically change that unless you're ready to invest like an R4 or high sig R3, at which point there are a long list of mid champs that can be good at those numbers.

    I barely seen any rintrah as 6* ever since 7* r3 were a thing, but somehow when he was released as 7*, literally now every player who got him have him in deck, lol
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,175 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Ayemeboi said:

    PT_99 said:

    Seems like people didn't read "dual usage"

    Idk how anyone can struggle with Medusa defender,
    Either you need to build your mystic deck up or you're just trolling.

    She could be issue if those furies were passives tho.

    This same thing could be said about Galan. If you have a good mystic then he can’t gain any buffs and he becomes an easy fight.

    While both aren’t the greatest on defense, a max planetary charged Galan at r4 only does 422k damage. That’s 1/3 of most quest health pools. While he does have his benefits, the amount of time it takes to build up to that point would be a while unless the defender has armor up buffs. I can see him being great for BGs, but Medusa is also just as great. I think Medusa is overall the better champion just because of how quick her rotation is, but Galan still will be nice for smaller healthpools.
    In terms of attack they're definitely both just as good but on defense Medusa has way more mystic counters than Galan does, it's harder to deal with him than it is to deal with her and at r4 you won't really be able to nuke him unless you have a r4 nuke yourself. You're basically just dead without neutralize or stagger.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,167 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Ayemeboi said:

    PT_99 said:

    Seems like people didn't read "dual usage"

    Idk how anyone can struggle with Medusa defender,
    Either you need to build your mystic deck up or you're just trolling.

    She could be issue if those furies were passives tho.

    This same thing could be said about Galan. If you have a good mystic then he can’t gain any buffs and he becomes an easy fight.

    While both aren’t the greatest on defense, a max planetary charged Galan at r4 only does 422k damage. That’s 1/3 of most quest health pools. While he does have his benefits, the amount of time it takes to build up to that point would be a while unless the defender has armor up buffs. I can see him being great for BGs, but Medusa is also just as great. I think Medusa is overall the better champion just because of how quick her rotation is, but Galan still will be nice for smaller healthpools.
    In terms of attack they're definitely both just as good but on defense Medusa has way more mystic counters than Galan does, it's harder to deal with him than it is to deal with her and at r4 you won't really be able to nuke him unless you have a r4 nuke yourself. You're basically just dead without neutralize or stagger.
    Even a champ with power gain or easy access to specials can take care of Galan.

    Once you learn Galan, he can still be taken by any champ provided the fight doesn't go on too long.

    The problem with Medusa is that you can't even throw specials at her lest she autoblock it . Such a time staller
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,175 ★★★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Average_Desi said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Ayemeboi said:

    PT_99 said:

    Seems like people didn't read "dual usage"

    Idk how anyone can struggle with Medusa defender,
    Either you need to build your mystic deck up or you're just trolling.

    She could be issue if those furies were passives tho.

    This same thing could be said about Galan. If you have a good mystic then he can’t gain any buffs and he becomes an easy fight.

    While both aren’t the greatest on defense, a max planetary charged Galan at r4 only does 422k damage. That’s 1/3 of most quest health pools. While he does have his benefits, the amount of time it takes to build up to that point would be a while unless the defender has armor up buffs. I can see him being great for BGs, but Medusa is also just as great. I think Medusa is overall the better champion just because of how quick her rotation is, but Galan still will be nice for smaller healthpools.
    In terms of attack they're definitely both just as good but on defense Medusa has way more mystic counters than Galan does, it's harder to deal with him than it is to deal with her and at r4 you won't really be able to nuke him unless you have a r4 nuke yourself. You're basically just dead without neutralize or stagger.
    Even a champ with power gain or easy access to specials can take care of Galan.

    Once you learn Galan, he can still be taken by any champ provided the fight doesn't go on too long.

    The problem with Medusa is that you can't even throw specials at her lest she autoblock it . Such a time staller
    I'm aware Kate Ham and others can kill him with sp1 spam but 1. Some BGs metas won't allow you to do that effectively and 2. There aren't as many champs who can do this as Medusa has counters, she gets shut down by the most common piece of utility in the mystic class AND the cosmic class cause unblockable and undermine both shut her down as well. Then there are other like Chavez he can get away with just heavy spam.

    She is not the better defender, she's good but not that good.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,792 Guardian
    Medusa
    TotemCorruption said:

    I haven't seen a serious player use Galan in a hot minute.

    I can only speak to the matches I'm in, but Galan used to be everywhere, and now he is increasingly rare in opponent decks. I think a preponderance of buff-heavy metas encouraged a lot of players to beef up their mystic rank ups, and that diminished the likelihood you'd catch an opponent without a Galan counter in drafts. Galan is a bit binary in that if your opponent doesn't have a counter he's a problem, but if they do he can become an actual liability on defense.

    Basically at best Medusa is a great defender, and at worst she's eh. At best Galan is a great defender, and at worst he's handing your opponent an automatic win. I suspect that might be the cause of Galan's reduction in popularity as a dual threat deck option. He's still plenty good on offense, but not so much as a dual threat deck option in my opinion.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 927 ★★★★
    edited April 18
    Medusa
    Since galan was out, never have I once read his kit, and never once have I ever struggled with him on defense (yes even when 6stars were relevant and he was at his peak) I just used chavez, longshot, tigra etc. Basically every mystic i ever ran was good against him.

    Till now, all I know about him as a defender is that if he throws too many sp1's or an sp2 you take a **** ton of red damage. That's all the information I knew and It was enough for me to never struggle against him.

    Medusa on the other hand has WRECKED ME in war because I underestimated her and thought I didn't need a counter.
    She is autoblocking special attacks even when the first hit connects, once you do not have a mystic nullifier or an autoblock counter, you have about 10 seconds till you lose the entire fight.

    When you see galan in a BG deck, you automatically draft a counter because you know he is primarily going to be used as a defender, when you see medusa in a deck, you assume she's gonna be used as an attacker, I personally have gotten caught by that assumption wayy to many times. She's a sneaky defender and once you're caught, you're losing.
    And she is top 2 cosmic attackers now so she's gonna be very hard to beat on offense.
    I'm still heartbroken I didn't get her from her box

    Edit- Also, if chavez and kushala (who can't manipulate his buffs) can take him out, I'm pretty sure alot of the battlegrounds staples should be able to take him out as well as long as you do it quickly
    (This is just an assumption).
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 927 ★★★★
    Medusa
    This thread cracks me up so much now
    I've seen galans damage and speed😭😭
    Look at people talking about galans gonna be insane at R4 as if literally any other champ isn't already insane at r4 since we're used to r3's

    Anyways, medusa is definitely the better attacker 😭😭
  • ViperOfChampionViperOfChampion Member Posts: 877 ★★★
    Galan (7*)
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    captain_rogers said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Until we see that burst damage at r3 or r4 hard to tell, but Galan is harder on defense for the most part when you don't have neutralize for me at least so for now, Galan. Maybe that will change if his damage isn't as good as I think it will be.

    No medusa is very tough on defense. There not really many autoblock counters or nullify mystics who can prevent her autoblock before she ramps up. Galan needs to throw 3 bars of special to get harvest on defense without any node help.
    You don't necessarily need undermine or unblockable there's also nullify, neutralize and stagger, only two of those works on Galan. Medusa is an easy defender unless there's a meta supercharging her like the unstoppable one, Galan as a 7* r4 will likely be a death sentence without another r4 nuke or a champ with neutralize, he can get to three bars of power easily before you can complete sp1 sp2 rotation with most champs.
    thats why tigra is coming out
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 606 ★★★
    Galan (7*)
    Lags just came out with a video today comparing the 6* to the 7* and a r3 galan does substantially more damage then a 6* r5 ascended
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