Will recent P2W champs be available later for F2P?

Lumatrix is basically locked behind a paywall for 99% of players. Dark Phoenix is locked behind a paywall for 98% of players who don't grind units like lunatics. To date, all other "trophy" champs, save Sigil Witch, were made available to non-paying players after some time passed. Will Lumatrix and Dark Phoenix be available later for those who choose not to pay Kabam's high prices now?

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ahmynuts

Eidols will all be in the basic at some point. Not sure about dark phoenix though

VanillaCoke

That’s how it usually is. The 7* Gifted Guardians eventually got added. Granted, we may have to wait months or over a year, but it will eventually come

SirGamesBond

I care about red guardian, I used him before he got popular after his buff.

Way too many good champs behind massive paywalls (the basic ones, not even the special ones they created just to sell).
It's 100% unfun territory.

Heavenlydemon_06

What happens of what we are collecting as dark plumbs or whatever was that.

ViperOfChampion

it will become OG phoenix

ViperOfChampion

@KabamDORK will we be getting any rank up gems with Phoenix similar to sinister or no

DinoHop05

In case anyone missed it, it appears that the answer to my question is no. That's unfortunate. Kabam should explain why they are now making meta-relevant P2W champs locked behind a permanent paywall.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2801953#Comment_2801953

EdisonLaw

Lumatrix should be in basics soon

Sambob

I just want that 7* red guardian

Furrymoosen

Lumatrix is far from hitting basic crystals. He's not even out of his exclusive store yet.

TotemCorruption

You can't figure out the answer for yourself?
Don't get me wrong, I also get frustrated by some of Kabam's business decisions, but it's like, you either pay, grind and save units, or just don't participate in the sales and move on with your life.
No use being a crybaby about a video game and using emotional language more suited for real economic issues, like housing, medical care, etc.

EdisonLaw

Obviously not so soon, but later this year probably

JESUSCHRIST

I got 6* Lumatrix, can't get 7*

I think at least a year before he will be more easily available

Vendemiaire

The trend for most of these P2W champs is they are more focused on defensive ability. (Weapon X, Jessica Jones, and now Dark Phoenix). Of course, it doesn't mean that they don't have offensive prowess, they'll still be above average, but I won't be surprised if OG Phoenix can outperform Dark Phoenix on offense.

High Cost P2W champs = Weapon X, Jessica Jones, Dark Phoenix
- Will put a dent in your bank.
- High Defense prowess.
- Only obtainable during big events (Banquet, Heart of Fire, etc.)

Somehow Reasonable Cost P2W champs = Lumatrix, Platinumpass Champs
- Somehow reasonable price.
- Above Average on both Offense and Defense.
- Has a chance to enter basics.

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- Deadpool

DinoHop05

I'm not crying, and you don't need to call people names to make a point. I'm simply noting that they're now releasing meta-relevant champs exclusively to paying players. Is it frustrating? Sure. Do I think it's fair to point out this new trend to vent my frustrations with a game I enjoy and would prefer to be more fair? I think there certainly are worse ways to express myself.

EdisonLaw

Also don’t forget Maestro

JESUSCHRIST

Spending players keep the game going so they get all the cool stuff first

FTP players have to wait

TotemCorruption

You said: "Kabam should explain why they are now making meta-relevant P2W champs locked behind a permanent paywall."
Even assuming it's a paywall and not a unit wall given the steep unit costs, you obviously know the answer: it is to make money.
Can you explain to me why you feel like Kabam owes you a justification for making decisions in order to make money?
I don't go into a restaurant I can't afford to eat at and demand an explanation for their prices.
So what is the mindset here? Is it because so much is given for free in this game that it creates an expectation of access and so when something like this Dark Phoenix release comes out people feel betrayed?

Rayven5220

What does Maestro have to do with PTW champs?
He's obtainable by doing content.

DinoHop05

They owe a justification for a few reasons:

1. Never before have meta relevant champs been made available exclusively to paying players. This is a change from the past where paying got you access earlier. It's a whole different beast when the access is either "pay now or don't get it."
2. More than paying players play this game. There aren't separate BG brackets for P2W v. F2P. Nor should there be, that's lunacy. But all competitive game modes have a balancing act that tries to weigh various players abilities. Fighting skill can get you so far. Roster size can get you further. Strategy can help. And so on. But when one of those things becomes too weighted, it disrupts the experience. Basically if roster size is now going to dictate more matchups than it did before, Kabam should explain why they think that's good for all of us, regardless of how much we spend.
3. It's just good player relations. I have no problem with spenders getting an advantage. But Kabam hasn't even acknowledged that they have changed how they roll out these amazing champs. It was a small problem with Lumatrix, it's a bigger problem with Dark Phoenix. Providing a justification for why they're disrupting the game balance so drastically is the least they can do.
4. I want to know if these champs really are exclusive. Kraven the Hunter still is not available as a 7" except as a spending prize in the Pool event last year. I don't care about Kraven because he's not meta relevant, but I care about Dark Phoenix. So I want to know if I should be more chill because hey, she'll come in a year or whatever. Mike's comment that I linked above suggests she won't be available. So I'm now free to criticize that decision, but I wouldn't have known if I didn't ask.

EdisonLaw

You may need units for necropolis. He’s not a PTW champ like Dark Phoenix but he is a trophy champ