How does despair work?

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• Average_Desi Member Posts: 2,730 ★★★★★

  May 31

  It only applies a max of 100% reduction of healing. As in , if 1 debuffs does 10% reduction. Only 10 debuffs will do anything. Anymore and it won't matter.
  
  In war, every champ would have the recovery Mastery which gives an additional 15% regen.
  
  So Serpant still has 15% regen. And when we're talking about millions of health points, it is significant

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• NoahSansman Member Posts: 499 ★★★

  May 31 edited May 31

  I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

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• Average_Desi Member Posts: 2,730 ★★★★★

  May 31 edited May 31

  NoahSansman said:

  I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

  Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

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• NoahSansman Member Posts: 499 ★★★

  May 31

  Average_Desi said:

  NoahSansman said:

  I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

  Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

  No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now

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• ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 389 ★★★

  May 31

  NoahSansman said:

  Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.
  
  The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.
  
  So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.
  
  Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

  Probably should boot that loser

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• Herbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★

  May 31

  NoahSansman said:

  Average_Desi said:

  NoahSansman said:

  I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

  Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

  No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now

  Okoye also has partial AAR (maybe 35%?) from her ensnared debuff. That might’ve been helping you out.

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• KyrinMcH Member Posts: 46 ★

  May 31 edited May 31

  for node 3 despair does stack with other reductions. i used count nef for the node his ionic overcharge only does 95% reduction but despair make it more than 100% regen reduction giving him charges. also against a serpent on that node nef could cut him to pieces.

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• NoahSansman Member Posts: 499 ★★★

  June 1

  ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

  NoahSansman said:

  Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.
  
  The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.
  
  So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.
  
  Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

  Probably should boot that loser

  This is why you're in prison pal. You are everything that is bad about the forums. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all

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• NoahSansman Member Posts: 499 ★★★

  June 1

  Herbal_Taxman said:

  NoahSansman said:

  Average_Desi said:

  NoahSansman said:

  I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

  Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

  No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now

  Okoye also has partial AAR (maybe 35%?) from her ensnared debuff. That might’ve been helping you out.

  Yeah that was stopping the regen from triggering as often, but believe it or not thats a bad thing. Since for the node you want to be triggering regen so you can stop it and gain charges

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• captain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★

  June 1

  That's why kabam should disable recovery mastery in that node.

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• EdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,077 ★★★★★

  June 1

  Regen rate goes from 100-0% and then to the negatives

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• TheUglyone123 Member Posts: 722 ★★★★

  June 1

  ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

  NoahSansman said:

  Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.
  
  The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.
  
  So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.
  
  Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

  Probably should boot that loser

  With how much you complain, I’m sure you have lost so many fights. I wouldn’t talk about booting people when you clearly have much room to improve

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• ButteredPopcorn8008 Member Posts: 389 ★★★

  June 1

  NoahSansman said:

  ButteredPopcorn8008 said:

  NoahSansman said:

  Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.
  
  The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.
  
  So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.
  
  Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

  Probably should boot that loser

  This is why you're in prison pal. You are everything that is bad about the forums. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all

  Excuse me

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• Jhenny Member Posts: 157 ★★

  June 2

  NoahSansman said:

  Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.
  
  The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.
  
  So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.
  
  Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

  I have made a very similar mistake, tho for me it was with Scorpion so I at least had an option with SP2 to use petrify. Sorry for your troubles tho

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• Feuerschwer Member Posts: 487 ★★★

  June 2

  I think you also need more than 100% reduction to get the charges from the war node - so even if they don’t have recovery on, you can pseudo-heal block but you’ll only get charges if you have another source of reduction.

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• Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,889 ★★★★★

  June 2

  Feuerschwer said:

  I think you also need more than 100% reduction to get the charges from the war node - so even if they don’t have recovery on, you can pseudo-heal block but you’ll only get charges if you have another source of reduction.

  You also get charges when healing is prevented so just heal block is fine. No need to reverse it.

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