How does despair work?

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

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Average_Desi

It only applies a max of 100% reduction of healing. As in , if 1 debuffs does 10% reduction. Only 10 debuffs will do anything. Anymore and it won't matter.

In war, every champ would have the recovery Mastery which gives an additional 15% regen.

So Serpant still has 15% regen. And when we're talking about millions of health points, it is significant

NoahSansman

I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

Average_Desi

I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.

Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

NoahSansman

I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.
Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?

No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now

ButteredPopcorn8008

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

Probably should boot that loser

Herbal_Taxman

I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.
Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?
No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now

Okoye also has partial AAR (maybe 35%?) from her ensnared debuff. That might’ve been helping you out.

KyrinMcH

for node 3 despair does stack with other reductions. i used count nef for the node his ionic overcharge only does 95% reduction but despair make it more than 100% regen reduction giving him charges. also against a serpent on that node nef could cut him to pieces.

NoahSansman

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.
Probably should boot that loser

This is why you're in prison pal. You are everything that is bad about the forums. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all

NoahSansman

I see. Thank you. But is that just for one type of debuff? Like if the opponent has 10 shocks and 10 bleeds, would that be a 200% reduction? I'm asking because I also do node 3 in war, and this war I used okoye and she worked amazingly.
Nope. It does not consider unique debuffs. Whom were you fighting using Okoye? It's likely that the defender wasn't running Recovery mastery. Did you bring any synergies or prefights?
No synergies or prefights, it must've been that he wasn't using recovery. Thank you it makes so much more sense now
Okoye also has partial AAR (maybe 35%?) from her ensnared debuff. That might’ve been helping you out.

Yeah that was stopping the regen from triggering as often, but believe it or not thats a bad thing. Since for the node you want to be triggering regen so you can stop it and gain charges

captain_rogers

That's why kabam should disable recovery mastery in that node.

EdisonLaw

Regen rate goes from 100-0% and then to the negatives

TheUglyone123

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.
Probably should boot that loser

With how much you complain, I’m sure you have lost so many fights. I wouldn’t talk about booting people when you clearly have much room to improve

ButteredPopcorn8008

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.
Probably should boot that loser
This is why you're in prison pal. You are everything that is bad about the forums. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all

Excuse me

Jhenny

Upon first glance, many people would assume that with despair maxed out, 20 ruptures on the opponent would stop or reverse their healing.

The description reads: Debuffs applied to enemies reduce their healing and regeneration effects by num% each. Up to a max of 100%.

So a member of my alliance dived into war, node 3, which was a serpent, and tried spiral against him. He stacked up his debuffs but he would never stop serpent's healing and he would never gain charges.

Why is this the case? Is it because it's a damaging debuff? Is it because its only 1 type of debuff? Any help or clarification is appreciated.

I have made a very similar mistake, tho for me it was with Scorpion so I at least had an option with SP2 to use petrify. Sorry for your troubles tho

Feuerschwer

I think you also need more than 100% reduction to get the charges from the war node - so even if they don’t have recovery on, you can pseudo-heal block but you’ll only get charges if you have another source of reduction.

Graves_3

I think you also need more than 100% reduction to get the charges from the war node - so even if they don’t have recovery on, you can pseudo-heal block but you’ll only get charges if you have another source of reduction.

You also get charges when healing is prevented so just heal block is fine. No need to reverse it.