7* Human Torch in wheel of fortune?

So does this mean we can get him from the selector? If so, good move Kabam.

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Here is the list from the news & announcements post that just came out:
Wheel of Fate Champion Selector: Gorr, Dazzler, Lady Deathstrike, Enchantress, Arcade, The Leader, Bullseye, The Serpent, Spiral

Bruh!! Why did they exclude poor dust 😭

Anotherconcernplayer

The Selector consists of the Champions who exist at the time of the content's release

Human Torch and Thor Ragnarok are not inluded

Hi Mike, this is the simple kind of thing that really take credibility from the Kabam.

Next time pleaae please just state thing clearly. I just can't understand how Kabam could say certain thing in the Livestream, while know who was going to be the Defs in the quest and how players will respond.

There is a clear different between creating "mystery/excitement" and letting players feel completely let down, but the action is very small and sinple.

Just make thing very clear for the players, by doing that we wouldn't have the Dark Phoenix and this HT issue.

MrSakuragi

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.

On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared

Graves_3

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

Actually except HT, Thor rags and dust.

Furrymoosen

The Selector consists of the Champions who exist at the time of the content's release

Human Torch and Thor Ragnarok are not inluded

Imagine if you guys said on the stream that the selector would be the pool of defenders minus Thanos. Sure would be embarrassing to say one thing and it turns out it's not accurate. Couldn't be Kabam.

ItsClobberinTime

Deathless Thanos not in it either I'd assume right? What a joke

Furrymoosen

Deathless Thanos not in it either I'd assume right? What a joke

They were honest about that part at least.

Average_Desi

Deathless Thanos not in it either I'd assume right? What a joke

That was always known and expected. I don't think anyone wants or expects him in the crystal.

But the others. Yikes

ItsClobberinTime

@Average_Desi @Furrymoosen I see, I missed the livestream or whatever forum announcement they made so I had no idea, bad look regardless cause I watched Mike say one of the 12 and then I also saw Mike say not all of them just now, so which one is it lmao

Mike3034

The Selector consists of the Champions who exist at the time of the content's release

Human Torch and Thor Ragnarok are not inluded

Ashacekar

The Selector consists of the Champions who exist at the time of the content's release

Human Torch and Thor Ragnarok are not inluded

This content was ahead of its time then. Wish time traveller moved a chair.

Average_Desi

Deathless Thanos not in it either I'd assume right? What a joke
They were honest about that part at least.

Thing is, even if they hadn't told that, no body would have been disappointed or expected Thanos. But the others not so.

Searmenis

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared

Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

Typhoon

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

Yeah, I watched the livestream and they definitely said you'll be able to select any of the defenders in the quest (excluding deathless thanos).

Unfortunate change.

EBG78

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

No. They say that the Epoch nexus is 1 of 5. They say you'll be able to select one of the 12 defenders from the selector.

FiiNCH

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

Do your ears not work properly?

At 56 minutes Mike clearly says the selector will give us 1 of the 12 defenders from the quest.

Average_Desi

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

"1 of THE 12 defenders"

MrSakuragi

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

Epoch nexus is one of five, which they talked about before the selector

FiiNCH

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.
Do your ears not work properly?

At 56 minutes Mike clearly says the selector will give us 1 of the 12 defenders from the quest.

What Mike should have said was:

‘We’ll give you a champ selector of the defenders from the quest BUT:

One of the defenders we’re going to remove and sell to you for £500

One of the defenders we’re going to remove because he’s not even a playable character, tough luck.

You can chose from the others’.

ItsClobberinTime

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

Says watch again, needs to watch again himself lmfao.

Average_Desi

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.
Do your ears not work properly?

At 56 minutes Mike clearly says the selector will give us 1 of the 12 defenders from the quest.
What Mike should have said was:

‘We’ll give you a champ selector of the defenders from the quest BUT:

One of the defenders we’re going to remove and sell to you for £500

One of the defenders we’re going to remove because he’s not even a playable character, tough luck.

You can chose from the others’.

They literally didn't need to say anything. Just said that it's a new selector and that it includes Sperapnt and Bullseye. Everyone is happy

Wozzle007

Good ole bait n switch.
That's not bait and switch.
They said on stream you can select any of the 12 defenders. Not once did they say there are 14 and you can't select 2. So how isn't it?

You can select any defender......but these 2.

Bait - You can select any defender.
Switch - Except HT and Thor Rags.

They didn't say ANY defenders. They also specifically called out that the Thanos boss wasn't in there either. They said the selector will be a selection of defenders from the content. Not any and not all.
On the stream they said it will give you one of the 12 defenders. They also said there are 12 defenders in the quest plus Thanos.

Around minute 55 if you want to see.

https://youtu.be/e8u3M1ivC9A?feature=shared
Watch it again, they say exactly that, selection of one of the defenders, selector of five, and "we don t want to spoil WHO is in it". So clearly wwerent supposed to have all of them.

Mike literally says “Look at that champion selector, a little tease as to who might be some of these defenders. We see Serpent we see Spiral and we see this guy right here (points to Bullseye). Now what this selector is going to be, it’s going be to be giving you a 7* champion of 1 of the 12 defenders in this quest.”

How can anyone interpret that to be anything other than all 12 defenders will be in the selector.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

That was definitely a poor way to word that sentence on my part in the moment, I should have said "one of the Defenders in the Quest currently available as a 7 Star*"

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

For additional context, this Quest was designed well before the Heat Wave sale was in development, and the rewards were designed after the Quest was finished.

CheeseMaster482

All of this could have been avoided if kabam just told us who was in the selector. They kept it a secret just for it to be champs everyone already has.

FiiNCH

That was definitely a poor way to word that sentence on my part in the moment, I should have said "one of the Defenders in the Quest currently available as a 7 Star*"

I think in future Mike you guys should make these things clear on the slides you present on the live streams to avoid any confusion around what the presenters say.

Graves_3

For additional context, this Quest was designed well before the Heat Wave sale was in development, and the rewards were designed after the Quest was finished.

Does that mean torch was originally going to be in the selector but was removed after heat wave sale was developed?

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

For additional context, this Quest was designed well before the Heat Wave sale was in development, and the rewards were designed after the Quest was finished.
Does that mean torch was originally going to be in the selector but was removed after heat wave sale was developed?

No, it does not

Magrailothos

That was definitely a poor way to word that sentence on my part in the moment, I should have said "one of the Defenders in the Quest currently available as a 7 Star*"

We all make mistakes, Rex.

But really, given that the intent was to give a choice of the defenders... Why didn't the design team just design the path using champs currently available as 7-stars?

GroundedWisdom

That was definitely a poor way to word that sentence on my part in the moment, I should have said "one of the Defenders in the Quest currently available as a 7 Star*"
We all make mistakes, Rex.

But really, given that the intent was to give a choice of the defenders... Why didn't the design team just design the path using champs currently available as 7-stars?

That would limit the design choices.