If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
I don't know about @GroundedWisdom, but I face pausers at least once a day. Earlier this week someone with a deck full of a couple r4 and all r3 of various sig against my mostly r1s and 6r5s. One match I scored under 1000 because I got creamed so bad by their defender. I lost in 10 seconds and had to wait out 120 seconds for the pauser that could have played the game and beat my defender in 10 seconds.
How many matches are you playing a day. I wish I faced pausers once a day. Is anyone else facing pausers at least once a day. I sometimes do like up to 20 mtaches a day.
Nah dude see you are falling on that stupid speech that everything can be punished with no margin of error. Recent events should have taught you better. The run out the clock because its "idiots who put their phones down"? You got no idea how many times I had the loading wheel yesterday and the game went from 6 seconds left to 0 and auto drafted my team. Should I started a match punished cause the game lagged? The rest has been talked to death. Matchmaking is what it is.
Nah, dude, you. There is a huge difference between putting the phone down for 3-4 minutes and not connecting to the server. In every case where I lost connection to the server during BG the system gave me a forfeit. When I submitted a ticket on that, the reply from support was, "if the client loses connection with the server you are automatically forfeit"
Getting lag is not the same as disconnecting. And with your system I would automatically be punished for the system auto picking my draft. At the expense of what? You not wanting to lose time? Nah... I was sympathetic to your initial thoughts. Now after reading all your inputs. Get paused and deal with it.
I agree, game lag is a PITA. I have had very few experiences with auto drafting when lagging. In your example, if you lagged for 6 seconds and got auto drafted you probably had inputs during the other 19-20 seconds. So , not a problem.
Again... just spitballing. BG is a pain in more ways than just pausing.
I'm broken. I play this game with 2 states of mind: as a player and a UI/UX designer. The player side gets hella frustrated and the UX pro side gets to work trying to come up with QoL solutions
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
I won't get into compound effects of a system that's based on fair competition. Bottom line is, I'm just calling a spade a spade. It's not a tactic. It's manipulating the system.
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
So you are grouping people who pause with hackers, players who hire mercs and players who share accounts just cause it's wrong. Again Kabam doesn't think pausing is cheating but the other 3 they are 100% against TOS. How can you be so wrong and feel so confident in your statement. It's like saying someone who jay walks is the same as a bank robber or murdered. It's all against the law but it's not all the same crime. Just give it up already. You and the 3 other that keeps pushing that pausing is like cheating, it's not even against TOS.
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
So you are grouping people who pause with hackers, players who hire mercs and players who share accounts just cause it's wrong. Again Kabam doesn't think pausing is cheating but the other 3 they are 100% against TOS. How can you be so wrong and feel so confident in your statement. It's like saying someone who jay walks is the same as a bank robber or murdered. It's all against the law but it's not all the same crime. Just give it up already. You and the 3 other that keeps pushing that pausing is like cheating, it's not even against TOS.
He is not saying they are same. He is saing that it is wrong. All of it is wrong. Whther or not it can be implemented is a different case.
And fyi, kabam does not like it either. It's just that they don't find the incentive to have to device a sufficiently accepatable solution to a problem that isn't major.
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
So you are grouping people who pause with hackers, players who hire mercs and players who share accounts just cause it's wrong. Again Kabam doesn't think pausing is cheating but the other 3 they are 100% against TOS. How can you be so wrong and feel so confident in your statement. It's like saying someone who jay walks is the same as a bank robber or murdered. It's all against the law but it's not all the same crime. Just give it up already. You and the 3 other that keeps pushing that pausing is like cheating, it's not even against TOS.
He is not saying they are same. He is saing that it is wrong. All of it is wrong. Whther or not it can be implemented is a different case.
And fyi, kabam does not like it either. It's just that they don't find the incentive to have to device a sufficiently accepatable solution to a problem that isn't major.
But Kabam never said it was wrong so not all are the same is what I'm saying, All the 4 people against pausers are seem to think that pausers is the same has hacking, mercing or account sharing and it's not the same for the last time. Stop saying it's the say cause the other 3 are actually against TOS while the pausing is frown upon. Seems like the only time people complain about pauses is when they lose. I keep hearing it's not fair that someone who didn't do anything gets the win. The good thing is both have the same ability and if you know the other player is going pause you can do a few hits an pause or maybe how about get more than 15k in points and get an easy victory. These are simple solutions to the problem. I'm pretty sure all these pausers are getting close to top 10k ranks at seasons end.
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
So you are grouping people who pause with hackers, players who hire mercs and players who share accounts just cause it's wrong. Again Kabam doesn't think pausing is cheating but the other 3 they are 100% against TOS. How can you be so wrong and feel so confident in your statement. It's like saying someone who jay walks is the same as a bank robber or murdered. It's all against the law but it's not all the same crime. Just give it up already. You and the 3 other that keeps pushing that pausing is like cheating, it's not even against TOS.
He is not saying they are same. He is saing that it is wrong. All of it is wrong. Whther or not it can be implemented is a different case.
And fyi, kabam does not like it either. It's just that they don't find the incentive to have to device a sufficiently accepatable solution to a problem that isn't major.
If after the match all stats are there Eg...Number of hits and other things...
....Match time really played are there too and will appear without any hits...
So, if no hits during the whole match, it may be count as a forfeit for the pause abuser.
Simple
Only need to Kabam make.it.work.
At least these entire paused matches wont happen again
the solution is play the fight because odds are u will score more than 15k*
Here's my issue with that. BGs isn't a contest of who can score more than 15k. It's a contest of who can perform better than the opponent. Within that, there are metrics that measure Points. Which means if both Players KO, it's a contest of who performed better under 15k. Someone getting knocked out isn't an excuse for people throwing the fight and defaulting 15k. In fact, someone who doesn't fight at all loses the right to call anyone weak for not doing over 15k because THEY DID NOTHING. On paper, it seems logical that if you make more than 15k, you win. That's not the point. The point is to make more than your opponent. Point blank, someone who fights their best and loses deserves the win over someone who manipulated the scoring by avoiding fighting at all.
Once again I ask you, how many times has this happen to you. Why are people getting upset over losing to a players who pause that most likely happens less than 1% of all BG matches. If this was more common I would estatic and take all the easy wins and climb the rank a lot higher. I understand it's unsportmanship but it's not against the rules of the game, Kabam has stated.
It matters a great deal to the people who lose to them. What does it matter if people are using mods, or sharing accounts and hiring mercs, or otherwise cheating? It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
So you are grouping people who pause with hackers, players who hire mercs and players who share accounts just cause it's wrong. Again Kabam doesn't think pausing is cheating but the other 3 they are 100% against TOS. How can you be so wrong and feel so confident in your statement. It's like saying someone who jay walks is the same as a bank robber or murdered. It's all against the law but it's not all the same crime. Just give it up already. You and the 3 other that keeps pushing that pausing is like cheating, it's not even against TOS.
I gave examples of things that were unfair conduct. People who don't play the Match don't deserve to win. It's wrong either way you look at it. As for Kabam, they're not fond of it either, there's just not a clear solution because you can't remove pausing and you can't penalize legit pausing. Just be glad the decision isn't mine. There wouldn't be any pausing, and if you can't commit to a 2 minute Fight, don't start one, or accept your loss if something comes up.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
They don't make Nodes that encourage it, and they acknowledge that it's a problem. There's just no clear solution. So what you have is people taking advantage of the situation.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
They don't make Nodes that encourage it, and they acknowledge that it's a problem. There's just no clear solution. So what you have is people taking advantage of the situation.
See, if pausing actually gives and advantage in most matchups this meta, and the button is still there, I'll say they're encouraging it. Either make "fair" metas until Ai fixed and pause button removed, or people are going to exploit the button.
Edit : in normal metas pausing won't give a big advantage 99% of times, but in current meta pausing after a combo guaranteed you win in certain matchups. It's like saying to a kid "you should eat 2 chocolates a day" and giving them a bowl full of chocolates, expecting them to control themselves on their own haha.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
Come on now. No meta "encourages" pausing any more that any other hard content or monetization encouraging modding and hacks . Funny hiw some modders use this exact argument. Kabam enocuraged modding die to AI issues and hard content
I don't like to say in every thread regarding pausing that the pause button is never the problem ask kabam to design better meta where pausing does not give an edge. Pause button is part of the game and should stay as it serves purpose.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
Come on now. No meta "encourages" pausing any more that any other hard content or monetization encouraging modding and hacks . Funny hiw some modders use this exact argument. Kabam enocuraged modding die to AI issues and hard content
You're getting my point wrong. Modding was never encouraged because modding ain't a option. Modding results in ban. But pausing is a option they provide and pausing won't result in ban. Also pausing helps you secure a win in some matchups this meta. That's the difference.
I don't like to say in every thread regarding pausing that the pause button is never the problem ask kabam to design better meta where pausing does not give an edge.
Pause button is part of the game and should stay as it serves purpose.
Agree... I pause all the time. there are too many instances I have to pause because I have to talk to someone right in front of me. I don't care if I lose in bgs. But I have to pause way too often, Aq/aw/bgs/quests... everywhere.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
C'mon bro everything is fair in love and bgs. Especially when kabam make stupid metas like current one where champs like serpent and almost unbearable, pausing seems to be a "viable strategy" even if it's dirty one.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
It is cheating, as far as I'm concerned. It's not using Practice Mode to hit Objectives, or running Auto Play for Milestones. It's manipulating the scoring in a PVP comparison of performance. No performance means no Points. It's just a loop hole is all. It's definitely cheating in my books.
Yeah you are free to consider it as cheating, but as long as kabam allows it, and actually makes nodes that "encourage" it, we solely cannot blame players alone as well.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
Come on now. No meta "encourages" pausing any more that any other hard content or monetization encouraging modding and hacks . Funny hiw some modders use this exact argument. Kabam enocuraged modding die to AI issues and hard content
You're getting my point wrong. Modding was never encouraged because modding ain't a option. Modding results in ban. But pausing is a option they provide and pausing won't result in ban. Also pausing helps you secure a win in some matchups this meta. That's the difference.
Pausing isn't an option they provide as a way to win. That's what you're confusing. Just because it exists doesn't mean they encourage it as a tactic. They're not providing it as a viable way to win against your opponent. It just exists because they haven't come up with a better solution. Personally, I think it should penalize Players on a counter scale, the longer you pause, the more Points are deducted.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
I was just being sarcastic, but if you really wanna be technical, both sides have a task. Both sides didn't perform the task The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
I was just being sarcastic, but if you really wanna be technical, both sides have a task. Both sides didn't perform the task The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
Sorry, but one side did. It's a game mode that measures performance in Points. Less than 15k is still a measurement of their performance in Points. Those Points are what make a comparative judgment versus the other Player. It's not "You didn't score 15k so you lose.". That's just ego talking. It's "How does your performance in Points, whatever the number, measure against your opponent's performance in Points?". You can say the person sucks all you want, but if one side fights and makes 8k, and the other side pauses and does nothing at all, that should be 0.
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
I was just being sarcastic, but if you really wanna be technical, both sides have a task. Both sides didn't perform the task The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
Sorry, but one side did. It's a game mode that measures performance in Points. Less than 15k is still a measurement of their performance in Points. Those Points are what make a comparative judgment versus the other Player. It's not "You didn't score 15k so you lose.". That's just ego talking. It's "How does your performance in Points, whatever the number, measure against your opponent's performance in Points?". You can say the person sucks all you want, but if one side fights and makes 8k, and the other side pauses and does nothing at all, that should be 0.
I don't think it did, the task is beat the other person. Lets put it this way. Player gets a match against someone, both players put their best defenders. Person 1 score 5k and the other 50k inmediate thought would be "Oh wow I suck, I got wrecked", the other person pauses and reality changes? All of the sudden person 1 didn't suck, didn't get wrecked? Could person 1 had won if the other didn't pause? That's just a simple maybe.
Look at this behavior. Guy pauses at start of the fight and wins fight one without lifting a finger. Does the same in fight two. Third one he has an advantage and succeeds in defeating me. Why on earth would I play the game when incompletence, doing absolutely nothing and underhanded tactics are continuously rewarded in the game??
Make this a win for me and take this guy's point. Like what man?? Are we jokers sitting here and taking on all the frew damage champs and metas while these guys think they are smart??
I dont care if someone out skills me or outdrafts me but this is absolute nonsense
This is not fair, and even Kabam dont agree with this, so why the kids here agree? Maybe they use this too?
There are 30 disagrees, so...
When Kabam remove pause button or change time x points ,Mcoc will be really played on a sportmanship way.
This is not even fight.
No matter we win or not. Pause entire match or 2/3 is disgusting
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
I was just being sarcastic, but if you really wanna be technical, both sides have a task. Both sides didn't perform the task The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
Sorry, but one side did. It's a game mode that measures performance in Points. Less than 15k is still a measurement of their performance in Points. Those Points are what make a comparative judgment versus the other Player. It's not "You didn't score 15k so you lose.". That's just ego talking. It's "How does your performance in Points, whatever the number, measure against your opponent's performance in Points?". You can say the person sucks all you want, but if one side fights and makes 8k, and the other side pauses and does nothing at all, that should be 0.
I don't think it did, the task is beat the other person. Lets put it this way. Player gets a match against someone, both players put their best defenders. Person 1 score 5k and the other 50k inmediate thought would be "Oh wow I suck, I got wrecked", the other person pauses and reality changes? All of the sudden person 1 didn't suck, didn't get wrecked? Could person 1 had won if the other didn't pause? That's just a simple maybe.
Yes, it does change it. Person 1 scores 5k, and person 2 scores 50k. Person 1 used a mod. Does it change it?
People keep justifying this garbage when it's flat-out wrong. That's what gets me going. It doesn't matter if they can get away with it or not. It's wrong. Acting like it's the fault of the other guy is....well, victim blaming. (I hated to use that term, it just fit.)
Well one could argue that if someone scored under 15k, the person didn't do much "fighting" either, more like taking a beating and should accept the lost and move on...
That's not taking a beating. That's losing to someone who did no fighting at all. One Player fights to the best of their ability and is scored based on that. Another does nothing and gets 15k and a free ride. How anyone can blame the person who actually fought is beyond me.
I was just being sarcastic, but if you really wanna be technical, both sides have a task. Both sides didn't perform the task The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
Sorry, but one side did. It's a game mode that measures performance in Points. Less than 15k is still a measurement of their performance in Points. Those Points are what make a comparative judgment versus the other Player. It's not "You didn't score 15k so you lose.". That's just ego talking. It's "How does your performance in Points, whatever the number, measure against your opponent's performance in Points?". You can say the person sucks all you want, but if one side fights and makes 8k, and the other side pauses and does nothing at all, that should be 0.
I don't think it did, the task is beat the other person. Lets put it this way. Player gets a match against someone, both players put their best defenders. Person 1 score 5k and the other 50k inmediate thought would be "Oh wow I suck, I got wrecked", the other person pauses and reality changes? All of the sudden person 1 didn't suck, didn't get wrecked? Could person 1 had won if the other didn't pause? That's just a simple maybe.
Yes, it does change it. Person 1 scores 5k, and person 2 scores 50k. Person 1 used a mod. Does it change it?
You are not gonna compare using a mod to pausing, I want to believe you are not that petty. You might not believe what I am about to say based on our past interactions; but I am a simple person. If I was beat by a pauser all I would say would be "Wow what an ass, oh well" move on and play the next match. Overthinking it, raging, comming to the forums to make a post about it, campaign for a change over a match that I performed so poorly I couldn't even beat 15k points? Nah thanks. Take the loss, move on.
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Again... just spitballing. BG is a pain in more ways than just pausing.
I'm broken. I play this game with 2 states of mind: as a player and a UI/UX designer. The player side gets hella frustrated and the UX pro side gets to work trying to come up with QoL solutions
It matters because it's wrong, and because it just plain sucks to lose to someone cheating the system.
And fyi, kabam does not like it either. It's just that they don't find the incentive to have to device a sufficiently accepatable solution to a problem that isn't major.
Ask kabam to not make metas where pausing gives you more points than playing in general lol.
Edit : I actually completely agree with your point, doing nothing and getting 15 k might seem unfair but in some metas that seems like the only option in certain matchups.
And as long as it's not cheating, trust me not many players cares about ethics in a mobile game.
I am not really against pixie suggestion of removing pause if it's possible. But rn the best they can do is not designing very limiting metas that encourage pausing.
Edit : in normal metas pausing won't give a big advantage 99% of times, but in current meta pausing after a combo guaranteed you win in certain matchups. It's like saying to a kid "you should eat 2 chocolates a day" and giving them a bowl full of chocolates, expecting them to control themselves on their own haha.
Modding was never encouraged because modding ain't a option. Modding results in ban.
But pausing is a option they provide and pausing won't result in ban. Also pausing helps you secure a win in some matchups this meta. That's the difference.
Personally, I think it should penalize Players on a counter scale, the longer you pause, the more Points are deducted.
The take a loss and move on works for all arguments and I believe is the healthiest advice.
It's a game mode that measures performance in Points. Less than 15k is still a measurement of their performance in Points. Those Points are what make a comparative judgment versus the other Player.
It's not "You didn't score 15k so you lose.". That's just ego talking. It's "How does your performance in Points, whatever the number, measure against your opponent's performance in Points?". You can say the person sucks all you want, but if one side fights and makes 8k, and the other side pauses and does nothing at all, that should be 0.
Lets put it this way. Player gets a match against someone, both players put their best defenders. Person 1 score 5k and the other 50k inmediate thought would be "Oh wow I suck, I got wrecked", the other person pauses and reality changes? All of the sudden person 1 didn't suck, didn't get wrecked? Could person 1 had won if the other didn't pause? That's just a simple maybe.
Person 1 scores 5k, and person 2 scores 50k.
Person 1 used a mod.
Does it change it?
You might not believe what I am about to say based on our past interactions; but I am a simple person. If I was beat by a pauser all I would say would be "Wow what an ass, oh well" move on and play the next match. Overthinking it, raging, comming to the forums to make a post about it, campaign for a change over a match that I performed so poorly I couldn't even beat 15k points? Nah thanks.
Take the loss, move on.