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Battleground finished, my question is...

MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 141 ★★
edited July 3 in General Discussion
Can players leave alliance and still be rewarded the alliance event rewards? And join other alliance? I was waiting to join an alliance and don't know if I should leave or wait but if I didn't left, i will miss out final day of AQ in the new alliance. Will I get the reward of BG alliance event if I leave now?

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  • MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 141 ★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,419 ★★★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    It's always been this way.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,829 ★★★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
  • MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 141 ★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
    Agree as I entered the new alliance with 0 score but HOW COME THE ALLIANCE I was in before and the event ended their then shouldn't Kabam has the data of all scores and the rewards should be given to all players in those data? Shouldn't it? If Kabam thinks players can double dip then simply send the higher ranked score rewards to the player where ever it was at the time of event ending?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
    Agree as I entered the new alliance with 0 score but HOW COME THE ALLIANCE I was in before and the event ended their then shouldn't Kabam has the data of all scores and the rewards should be given to all players in those data? Shouldn't it? If Kabam thinks players can double dip then simply send the higher ranked score rewards to the player where ever it was at the time of event ending?
    If it makes you feel any better, there have been players that were kicked from an alliance before rewards drop and managed to get their rewards thru a ticket. Then again thats for people that were unfairly kicked, not people who changed alliance.
  • MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 141 ★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
    Agree as I entered the new alliance with 0 score but HOW COME THE ALLIANCE I was in before and the event ended their then shouldn't Kabam has the data of all scores and the rewards should be given to all players in those data? Shouldn't it? If Kabam thinks players can double dip then simply send the higher ranked score rewards to the player where ever it was at the time of event ending?
    If it makes you feel any better, there have been players that were kicked from an alliance before rewards drop and managed to get their rewards thru a ticket. Then again thats for people that were unfairly kicked, not people who changed alliance.
    But don't you think what I said makes sense and can be beneficial for Kabam to implement. Not only does it benefits players who get unfairly kicked also stops players from double dipping from Alliance event rewards. Solution being player get the reward wherever they scored the highest and get 1 rewards. Stops double dipping and if players change alliance in between or get kicked they are secured. Wouldn't it increase trust in games longevity? Or will people blindly disagree here?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,829 ★★★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
    Agree as I entered the new alliance with 0 score but HOW COME THE ALLIANCE I was in before and the event ended their then shouldn't Kabam has the data of all scores and the rewards should be given to all players in those data? Shouldn't it? If Kabam thinks players can double dip then simply send the higher ranked score rewards to the player where ever it was at the time of event ending?
    If it makes you feel any better, there have been players that were kicked from an alliance before rewards drop and managed to get their rewards thru a ticket. Then again thats for people that were unfairly kicked, not people who changed alliance.
    But don't you think what I said makes sense and can be beneficial for Kabam to implement. Not only does it benefits players who get unfairly kicked also stops players from double dipping from Alliance event rewards. Solution being player get the reward wherever they scored the highest and get 1 rewards. Stops double dipping and if players change alliance in between or get kicked they are secured. Wouldn't it increase trust in games longevity? Or will people blindly disagree here?
    It also benefits players that are fairly kicked. And can you give an example of how it stops double dipping? Because double dipping already doesn't happen.
    The current setup is actually significantly better than what you're proposing. Kabam doesn't want people hopping around alliances. Letting them keep the rewards does that and creates disloyalty amongst players. Having something to lose by leaving your alliance means players are less likely to make changes and teams are more likely to stick together. If you wanna leave, it's gonna cost you.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,678 Guardian
    Nobody brought up “double dipping”.

    It is that when rewards are sent out, they look at the alliance and what rewards the alliance gets, and then look at all the people in the alliance (and that qualified, assume you have to have contributed), and then those rewards are what is sent out and to who.

    As for why can't they “lock in” the snapshot of events when they end, and base rewards in that. It has been asked for, and probably would be good if they were to invest the resources and time to implement that sometime in the future.

    But it's currently not like that, hasn’t “just changed”, and isn’t gonna be implemented right now in order to satisfy your case where you just switched here.

    And claiming “blindly disagreeing” lemmings, just got you another disagree.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    Montycarlo said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    You only get alliance rewards if you're part of the alliance at the time rewards are sent out. If you leave before then you will get nothing.
    If you're going to switch alliances, you're going to have to sacrifice BG rewards, AQ rewards, or raid rewards. I'd personally sacrifice the AQ rewards and move after BG rewards of Friday.

    That is so unfair i thought we would get rewards even if rewards aren't out but you as a player had stayed in the alliance by the time event ends. Why its changed?
    Definitely not unfair, and definitely not changed. Alliance rewards are always based on the alliance you are in, not the alliance you were in. Always. If you change alliances before rewards, then you forfeit those rewards because your rewards would be based on your new alliance, which you wouldn't qualify for because you didn't participate.
    Agree as I entered the new alliance with 0 score but HOW COME THE ALLIANCE I was in before and the event ended their then shouldn't Kabam has the data of all scores and the rewards should be given to all players in those data? Shouldn't it? If Kabam thinks players can double dip then simply send the higher ranked score rewards to the player where ever it was at the time of event ending?
    If it makes you feel any better, there have been players that were kicked from an alliance before rewards drop and managed to get their rewards thru a ticket. Then again thats for people that were unfairly kicked, not people who changed alliance.
    But don't you think what I said makes sense and can be beneficial for Kabam to implement. Not only does it benefits players who get unfairly kicked also stops players from double dipping from Alliance event rewards. Solution being player get the reward wherever they scored the highest and get 1 rewards. Stops double dipping and if players change alliance in between or get kicked they are secured. Wouldn't it increase trust in games longevity? Or will people blindly disagree here?
    There is a huge difference between making a choice and being unfairly kicked. It has been this way for many years, I don't think trust on longevity is an issue for a mobile game that run for 10 years, which is extremely rare.
    I don't know what to tell you, my response is going to be extremely biased since I haven't really worried about AQ for a while until recently.
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 153 ★
    edited July 3
    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Note: It doesn't show in the BG Alliance event screen whether we qualify or not, unlike other events like advancements or incursion, where it shows a timer after which we will qualify for rank rewards.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Zero means you didn't contribute at all, which means no rewards.
  • MontycarloMontycarlo Member Posts: 141 ★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Zero means you didn't contribute at all, which means no rewards.
    Yes zero means zero even if you are in the alliance but didn't participate 1 nce in the event. Then why will you get the reward? And to answer to the people who are saying stuff like FAIRLY KICKED? LIKE what are you talking about? Who decides who's being FAIRLY KICKED is there supreme court for such things lol? if I scored and participated and helped alliance reach milestone did my duty and got kicked for some RANDOM REASON WHICH SEEMS FAIR TO YOU but not to me or others who do u think is right here happens every other alliance I bet iv seen and had encountered such behaviour from such trash alliance in the past. So my response is this is a game and if there is a concept of alliance and you have 30 players participating in it and then you get kicked for some reason then it doesn't matter you are drug dealer outside in the real world. In this game you are simply a player a d SHOULD BE GIVEN THE REWARDS whether you are kicked or not. Kicking out doesn't give any right to leader to decide who gets what.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,824 ★★★★★
    edited July 3
    Montycarlo said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Zero means you didn't contribute at all, which means no rewards.
    Yes zero means zero even if you are in the alliance but didn't participate 1 nce in the event. Then why will you get the reward? And to answer to the people who are saying stuff like FAIRLY KICKED? LIKE what are you talking about? Who decides who's being FAIRLY KICKED is there supreme court for such things lol? if I scored and participated and helped alliance reach milestone did my duty and got kicked for some RANDOM REASON WHICH SEEMS FAIR TO YOU but not to me or others who do u think is right here happens every other alliance I bet iv seen and had encountered such behaviour from such trash alliance in the past. So my response is this is a game and if there is a concept of alliance and you have 30 players participating in it and then you get kicked for some reason then it doesn't matter you are drug dealer outside in the real world. In this game you are simply a player a d SHOULD BE GIVEN THE REWARDS whether you are kicked or not. Kicking out doesn't give any right to leader to decide who gets what.
    Lets put it this way, if we lose war cause someone didn't show up to clear his path, and doesn't have a good enough reason on the next day. I don't care how many points you put on another event, you are getting FAIRLY kicked.
    Why are you so focused on the being kicked anyway? You left or is in the process of leaving your alliance.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,829 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Note: It doesn't show in the BG Alliance event screen whether we qualify or not, unlike other events like advancements or incursion, where it shows a timer after which we will qualify for rank rewards.

    You need to be in an alliance at least 7 days prior to the end of a season, and contribute points, to receive alliance rewards for BGs.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,829 ★★★★★
    edited July 3
    Montycarlo said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Zero means you didn't contribute at all, which means no rewards.
    Yes zero means zero even if you are in the alliance but didn't participate 1 nce in the event. Then why will you get the reward? And to answer to the people who are saying stuff like FAIRLY KICKED? LIKE what are you talking about? Who decides who's being FAIRLY KICKED is there supreme court for such things lol? if I scored and participated and helped alliance reach milestone did my duty and got kicked for some RANDOM REASON WHICH SEEMS FAIR TO YOU but not to me or others who do u think is right here happens every other alliance I bet iv seen and had encountered such behaviour from such trash alliance in the past. So my response is this is a game and if there is a concept of alliance and you have 30 players participating in it and then you get kicked for some reason then it doesn't matter you are drug dealer outside in the real world. In this game you are simply a player a d SHOULD BE GIVEN THE REWARDS whether you are kicked or not. Kicking out doesn't give any right to leader to decide who gets what.
    You seem to be really focused on your subjective thoughts of what is fair and what is not. Bring a little objectivity into this.
    The leaders and officers (you can call them the supreme court if you want) decide who is kicked. It's pretty straight forward. If somebody meets all the requirements of their alliance, they're probably not getting kicked, so the conversation then becomes irrelevant. Now, there are some alliances led by jerks out there that kick people just because they can, but that's a separate conversation.
    But anyone that doesn't meet the requirements and the expectations of their alliance shouldn't be surprised if they get kicked and can't possibly call it unfair just because they don't like it.
    If Kabam changed the way rewards work, then it would be a system that is constantly abused by players and would ultimately hurt alliances. Leaders wouldn't be able to trust their members to finish something.
    It's pretty simple - join a solid alliance, meet the expectations, stick around, enjoy all the rewards you want. If you want to leave, leave, but you don't get to keep everything in the divorce. You know longer meet the requirements for the rewards if you leave, and it should stay that way.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 943 ★★★
    Montycarlo said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    MystG said:

    Well, tho I do not care much about Bg alliance rewards since they're super outdated, if there's a thread then let me ask.
    Does changing alliance before season end give you the rewards from the new alliance score, even if you have put zero points in the new alliance?

    Zero means you didn't contribute at all, which means no rewards.
    Yes zero means zero even if you are in the alliance but didn't participate 1 nce in the event. Then why will you get the reward? And to answer to the people who are saying stuff like FAIRLY KICKED? LIKE what are you talking about? Who decides who's being FAIRLY KICKED is there supreme court for such things lol? if I scored and participated and helped alliance reach milestone did my duty and got kicked for some RANDOM REASON WHICH SEEMS FAIR TO YOU but not to me or others who do u think is right here happens every other alliance I bet iv seen and had encountered such behaviour from such trash alliance in the past. So my response is this is a game and if there is a concept of alliance and you have 30 players participating in it and then you get kicked for some reason then it doesn't matter you are drug dealer outside in the real world. In this game you are simply a player a d SHOULD BE GIVEN THE REWARDS whether you are kicked or not. Kicking out doesn't give any right to leader to decide who gets what.
    FAIRLY KICKED would be said player doesn't do squat never participates in aq/raids aw they do nothing they never respond or read their messages or they join last minute aq after aq aw after aw no nothing that would be an example of fairly kicked
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