Getting bored of these threads

Reading all these comments and threads about new defenders and their frequency makes me sick. I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests? Why would Kabam want to create mid champ, that will not perform in game and in sales? Look at new vulture, nowhere to be seen. And if op defender appears, how often do you see them in quests? Like once or twice a month when you do paragon and valiant quest and maybe later in everest content. Just stop whining about defenders

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Buttehrs

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.

SirGamesBond

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.

Flavyjay

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.

From what he is saying, I doubt he does BG

Jutyjessafg

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.

Plat 6 and Arcane 2

Aleor

Getting bored of threads of people getting bored of these threads, please give me more threads about how annoying it is to see kabam releasing boring to play defence champs only

Jutyjessafg

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.

Man, from the bottom of my heart I can tell you that I hate bgs. My heart is racing, I’m loosing my breath sometimes, when it’s very close and I don’t play them for hours everyday. Honestly it would be a torture to play bgs for 2-4 hours straight. And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content. And I don’t understand the complaint about having the best rewards behind competitive mode. They can’t bring everest content every month or two (actually they can , but it will break already established balance of the game), but players want to have rank up materials and play the game. And you can’t just put the best rewards just for winning 5-7 matches that will give you enough materials for rank 4. It’s true that high spenders will be the ones who will get the highest possible rewards, but it was always like this. You’re on top either way by being good at the game or by being rich.

Jutyjessafg

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
From what he is saying, I doubt he does BG

Why would you think so? Genuinely curious.

Skyfaw

Reading all these comments and threads about new defenders and their frequency makes me sick. I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests? Why would Kabam want to create mid champ, that will not perform in game and in sales? Look at new vulture, nowhere to be seen. And if op defender appears, how often do you see them in quests? Like once or twice a month when you do paragon and valiant quest and maybe later in everest content. Just stop whining about defenders

Don’t worry once BG season starts up again we will have threads talking about unfair matches followed by modders followed by unfair matches followed by yeah you guess it more modding threads. Stay tuned and follow for more exclusive coverage in your favorite forum website chow.

altavista

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.
And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content.

I've made this complaint before and people disagree, but having to face these defenders regularly in Arena is pretty annoying (and potentially difficult if you happen to have an arena team that doesn't work to counter). So yes, while these defenders are usually more common in competitive modes, the fact that they exists means that they will show up in Arenas, they will show up in EQ, they will show up in everest content.

And with all the nodes that Kabam likes to add to create "difficulty", invariably one of these meta defenders will become almost borderline unfair in certain quests.

TotalMonster110

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.
Man, from the bottom of my heart I can tell you that I hate bgs. My heart is racing, I’m loosing my breath sometimes, when it’s very close and I don’t play them for hours everyday. Honestly it would be a torture to play bgs for 2-4 hours straight. And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content. And I don’t understand the complaint about having the best rewards behind competitive mode. They can’t bring everest content every month or two (actually they can , but it will break already established balance of the game), but players want to have rank up materials and play the game. And you can’t just put the best rewards just for winning 5-7 matches that will give you enough materials for rank 4. It’s true that high spenders will be the ones who will get the highest possible rewards, but it was always like this. You’re on top either way by being good at the game or by being rich.

Oh, so you don’t play battlegrounds.

Jutyjessafg

Reading all these comments and threads about new defenders and their frequency makes me sick. I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests? Why would Kabam want to create mid champ, that will not perform in game and in sales? Look at new vulture, nowhere to be seen. And if op defender appears, how often do you see them in quests? Like once or twice a month when you do paragon and valiant quest and maybe later in everest content. Just stop whining about defenders
Don’t worry once BG season starts up again we will have threads talking about unfair matches followed by modders followed by unfair matches followed by yeah you guess it more modding threads. Stay tuned and follow for more exclusive coverage in your favorite forum website chow.

I get that there is modders and unfair matchups. I don’t say that there is no such problem, but people don’t get that it’s not profitable to make champ that doesn’t perform therefore doesn’t make money for the company. I do hate fight serpent, dark phoenix, fantman etc etc, but I’m fighting for the best rewards and I’m not the only one who wants them, so you shouldn’t be surprised when you go in matchmaking and fight the same op defenders

Jutyjessafg

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.
Man, from the bottom of my heart I can tell you that I hate bgs. My heart is racing, I’m loosing my breath sometimes, when it’s very close and I don’t play them for hours everyday. Honestly it would be a torture to play bgs for 2-4 hours straight. And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content. And I don’t understand the complaint about having the best rewards behind competitive mode. They can’t bring everest content every month or two (actually they can , but it will break already established balance of the game), but players want to have rank up materials and play the game. And you can’t just put the best rewards just for winning 5-7 matches that will give you enough materials for rank 4. It’s true that high spenders will be the ones who will get the highest possible rewards, but it was always like this. You’re on top either way by being good at the game or by being rich.

Oh, so you don’t play battlegrounds.

I lasted in arcane 2 and won against rosters that are far more developed than mine

Jutyjessafg

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.
And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content.
I've made this complaint before and people disagree, but having to face these defenders regularly in Arena is pretty annoying (and potentially difficult if you happen to have an arena team that doesn't work to counter). So yes, while these defenders are usually more common in competitive modes, the fact that they exists means that they will show up in Arenas, they will show up in EQ, they will show up in everest content.

And with all the nodes that Kabam likes to add to create "difficulty", invariably one of these meta defenders will become almost borderline unfair in certain quests.

Yeah man, it’s **** when you farm arena and you have to face r4 photon sig 200 or dark phoenix r4 sig 200 with white magneto r1 on 2x multiplayer. And everest content is everest content. In my opinion it should not be easy, but not borderline unplayable. Like in WoF you can use nefario, spiral, kushala against serpent and hulk, photon, onslaught for enchatress which looks fine for me (it is an example)

SirGamesBond

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2

Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.

I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?

Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.

altavista

I mean i get it. The people typically making the posts are the ones that are fighting them every single match in bgs and they do bgs hours a day. It would honestly suck. But at the same time, that's what happens when you decide to put the best rewards in the game behind a fully competitive game mode like bgs.
And you already can obtain some radiance from aq and aw so no need for bgs, therefore you’ll face these broken defenders once in 2-3 days in aw and maybe once a month in monthly events and everest content.
I've made this complaint before and people disagree, but having to face these defenders regularly in Arena is pretty annoying (and potentially difficult if you happen to have an arena team that doesn't work to counter). So yes, while these defenders are usually more common in competitive modes, the fact that they exists means that they will show up in Arenas, they will show up in EQ, they will show up in everest content.

And with all the nodes that Kabam likes to add to create "difficulty", invariably one of these meta defenders will become almost borderline unfair in certain quests.

Yeah man, it’s **** when you farm arena and you have to face r4 photon sig 200 or dark phoenix r4 sig 200 with white magneto r1 on 2x multiplayer. And everest content is everest content. In my opinion it should not be easy, but not borderline unplayable. Like in WoF you can use nefario, spiral, kushala against serpent and hulk, photon, onslaught for enchatress which looks fine for me (it is an example)

The annoying thing is that Kabam gives difficult defenders high prestige on purpose to make them "desirable". I couldn't care less about prestige, but since it matters for competitive modes, players rank up these champions for prestige purposes. And because they are ranked up, they are typically used as champions in Arena, and because they are used in Arena, you will have to face them.

Jutyjessafg

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.

First of all I didn’t understand what do you mean by t1-t2 wars. I guess it means tier 1-2 alliances that are above plat. So I can understand how it’s frustrating to buy potions for 20k loyalty, because every death counts a lot. Englisch isn’t my first language, so maybe I did sound rude or something like this, but In my opinion I don’t invalidate others opinions. It is exhausting to face these defenders and I agree a lot with those whiny comments because I’m the same as they are. I also don’t like unfair matchmaking, I also hate to face modders, I also want to see fair defenders in the game like arcade or corg, but not like high evolutionary that auto-blocks a lot and doesn’t care about the undermine buff. I can’t imagine how frustrating it will be to face him on certain nodes. Also glad to see Chadam Warlock in defense. I guess I will not see such versatility in defense in plat 6-3. I would love to participate in such wars, but I have underdeveloped roster and too low prestige

Skyfaw

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.

Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?

SirGamesBond

Tier 1 and alliances in war are Plantinum 2 and above, Tier 2 are high Platinum 3.
I observed English isn't your first language, neither is mine. I understand what its like getting lost in translation. But that isn't the point. And that's why I replied with a long comment. I don't usually care what forum whinners post 99% of the times. You are not one of them. I saw your replies are rather considerate.

Now back to topic on hand.
I know kabam isn't going to do anything about this situation. They will not change what they have planned 99% of the time. So I don't take part in many of these serious topics.
But I can support those posts and people who are passionate and are actually constructive. I get enough hate mocking the rants and whine posts lol. Doesn't bother me, eveyeone got opinions, including me.

Just wanted to let you know, the game is vast and Some (Not all) of those complaints are critical.
These 5/5 defenders are fueling the already present power creep in the game. Last season of war was easy on most alliances. I fought Dark Phoenix 8 times in 12 wars serpent and enchantress the remaining 4. I avoided yelena, I also avoided zola lol. But now we don't have any choice. We have to fight most of the new defenders. And the list is getting bigger month after month. I don't mind hard fights with decent counters tbh. But I understand, that can get annoying or exhausting to players in general.
...
I stopped pushing BGs 7-8 months ago.
But these defenders effect bgs too.
But I dont mind as I play bare minimum with few extra matches here and there and do decent.
Earlier today I was doing the objective and faced an account with 17 r4s.

Won the starky game tho.

Since it's off season I did not ban any new shiny toy. I actually wanted to fight them. I shared the fights with my friends and had a good chuckle.
I'll learn these new champs coming war season. At this moment I have 0 clue lol.

ahmynuts

Hey some **** saw your thread and created a new thread about defenders because of it. Go over there and show him a piece of your mind.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/398761/can-we-get-a-5-5-of-anything-other-than-a-defender#latest

SirGamesBond

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?

The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.

Skyfaw

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?
The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.

Most players won’t just 1% will have them just like the defenders. So realistically that doesn’t change the narrative.

SirGamesBond

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?
The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.
Most players won’t just 1% will have them just like the defenders. So realistically that doesn’t change the narrative.

The defenders I'll have to face in wars, and the attackers are not accessible. So realistically doesn't change the narrative.

Jutyjessafg

Tier 1 and alliances in war are Plantinum 2 and above, Tier 2 are high Platinum 3.
I observed English isn't your first language, neither is mine. I understand what its like getting lost in translation. But that isn't the point. And that's why I replied with a long comment. I don't usually care what forum whinners post 99% of the times. You are not one of them. I saw your replies are rather considerate.

Now back to topic on hand.
I know kabam isn't going to do anything about this situation. They will not change what they have planned 99% of the time. So I don't take part in many of these serious topics.
But I can support those posts and people who are passionate and are actually constructive. I get enough hate mocking the rants and whine posts lol. Doesn't bother me, eveyeone got opinions, including me.

Just wanted to let you know, the game is vast and Some (Not all) of those complaints are critical.
These 5/5 defenders are fueling the already present power creep in the game. Last season of war was easy on most alliances. I fought Dark Phoenix 8 times in 12 wars serpent and enchantress the remaining 4. I avoided yelena, I also avoided zola lol. But now we don't have any choice. We have to fight most of the new defenders. And the list is getting bigger month after month. I don't mind hard fights with decent counters tbh. But I understand, that can get annoying or exhausting to players in general.
...
I stopped pushing BGs 7-8 months ago.
But these defenders effect bgs too.
But I dont mind as I play bare minimum with few extra matches here and there and do decent.
Earlier today I was doing the objective and faced an account with 17 r4s.

Won the starky game tho.
Since it's off season I did not ban any new shiny toy. I actually wanted to fight them. I shared the fights with my friends and had a good chuckle.
I'll learn these new champs coming war season. At this moment I have 0 clue lol.

Oh, thank you for the explanation. Now I know which alliances I need to aim for. I agree that there are enough good and OP defenders.
I started playing 7 years ago for a couple of months, then took a break for a few years. I returned when Starky was first released. And I came back once more 8 months ago, and since then I’ve been playing non-stop. Back in the day, when Thing and Korg were the biggest threats, I didn’t think they were unbalanced. And when I returned, I didn’t think Serpent was unbalanced either — maybe even fun to encounter. But Bullseye…SirGamesBond, I thought he would be the point of no return, because he is full of pupu kaka lol. But then I looked at the game and thought, “I don’t encounter him in quests. I only face him when I play against real people who want to win and get the best rewards. So why am I whining instead of getting good?”
After that, I learned every defender and got pretty decent at the game. I’m not saying I always perform well or that I can beat anyone without taking any damage, but you can improve each season and earn better rewards. Every season I’m climbing higher and higher. A couple of seasons ago I finished in Uru 5, and last season I made it to Arcane 2.
I don’t think every whale can get there. Many of my alliance members have much better-developed rosters than mine, but I still had the highest BG placement among them. Spending may help quite a lot, but that doesn’t matter if you don’t learn. I’m not saying all of this because I’m so good that you guys should line up to please me — no. The point is: even though there are a lot of tedious and ridiculous defenders, you can grow, learn, and eventually defeat them. You’re right — Kabam won’t listen to whining forum users and change anything. And guys like me also won’t change the direction of the game, because I’m not one of those whales who can influence Kabam.
I don’t mind facing a challenge when I have the resources — and Kabam is providing them for F2P players.

Jutyjessafg

Hey some **** saw your thread and created a new thread about defenders because of it. Go over there and show him a piece of your mind.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/398761/can-we-get-a-5-5-of-anything-other-than-a-defender#latest

I don’t get what do you want from me

Skyfaw

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?
The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.
Most players won’t just 1% will have them just like the defenders. So realistically that doesn’t change the narrative.
The defenders I'll have to face in wars, and the attackers are not accessible. So realistically doesn't change the narrative.

War isn’t a good example. For one it’s a team event so if you don’t have the counter one of the other 9 guys have to bring one. I do war at the highest level, seen some very formidable defenses with bans dedicated to give deaths at certain spots on the map. I do path 9 mainly sometimes they place serpent on node 9 and ban the best counters. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an option. There always a loophole.

SirGamesBond

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?
The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.
Most players won’t just 1% will have them just like the defenders. So realistically that doesn’t change the narrative.
The defenders I'll have to face in wars, and the attackers are not accessible. So realistically doesn't change the narrative.
War isn’t a good example. For one it’s a team event so if you don’t have the counter one of the other 9 guys have to bring one. I do war at the highest level, seen some very formidable defenses with bans dedicated to give deaths at certain spots on the map. I do path 9 mainly sometimes they place serpent on node 9 and ban the best counters. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an option. There always a loophole.

Where can we measure it then.
Outside bgs and wars we don't need them.
So send a whale to deal with a whale. Got it.
I'll do my assigned fights. Its bad when you don't have the right tools to help when you can.
I don't do hard bg pushes, so I reap whatever I can. Many of these 5/5 defenders are annoying without counters. Making 90% of the deck pointless. But ehh, it is what it is in bgs atleast

Toproller89

Cavalier ahh thread

Chosen85

Reading all these comments and threads about new defenders and their frequency makes me sick. I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests? Why would Kabam want to create mid champ, that will not perform in game and in sales? Look at new vulture, nowhere to be seen. And if op defender appears, how often do you see them in quests? Like once or twice a month when you do paragon and valiant quest and maybe later in everest content. Just stop whining about defenders

Its really easy to not read them. You're not required to read posts. Just ignore them. Unless younger paid to read forum posts, I don't see why they would bother you that much. Ignore and move on. Simple.

MrSanguini

Mention your war tier and BG rank. I have to know before I comment anything.
Plat 6 and Arcane 2
Understandable. It's just you don't know how much it effects the potion economy in t1-t2 wars or the game in general.
I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests?
Every single war.
You can compare these pi with your own wars.

You won't see me compalin about defenders.
But I understand the frustrations of players.
Where are the 5/5 attackers. We are getting 5/5 defenders back to back. Even the attackers relased comes with niche defensive abilities.
Have you seen the champs in war saga attacker tactic pool?

You are looking at this with your point of view, which is fine.
But you are in no position to invalidate others point of view.
Why do people keep asking where are the 5/5 attackers? We just gonna pretend like they didn’t just add Nico and Karolina?
The Titan rotations are set like that. Normal players don't have an option to pull them for next three months.
Most players won’t just 1% will have them just like the defenders. So realistically that doesn’t change the narrative.
The defenders I'll have to face in wars, and the attackers are not accessible. So realistically doesn't change the narrative.
War isn’t a good example. For one it’s a team event so if you don’t have the counter one of the other 9 guys have to bring one. I do war at the highest level, seen some very formidable defenses with bans dedicated to give deaths at certain spots on the map. I do path 9 mainly sometimes they place serpent on node 9 and ban the best counters. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an option. There always a loophole.
Where can we measure it then.
Outside bgs and wars we don't need them.
So send a whale to deal with a whale. Got it.
I'll do my assigned fights. Its bad when you don't have the right tools to help when you can.
I don't do hard bg pushes, so I reap whatever I can. Many of these 5/5 defenders are annoying without counters. Making 90% of the deck pointless. But ehh, it is what it is in bgs atleast

That’s just the direction the game’s going. Seriously, if the game never released champs that required newer counters, you would have players with 5 year old rosters still competing at the highest level. That’s why new champs with new defensive asks are being released, so that newer champs with newer offensive answers have a use. I’m sure everyone understands that.

For High Evo we already have a good handful of Skill and Cosmic counters that should mess him up. Of all the 5/5 defenders I think he’s the one with the most options on release.

That sig ability is evil though- wdym you have to do the next 3 fights with 10 devolves and ZERO willpower?? This guy will be a pain for AW. At least until Patriot and more regen-rate modification immune champs become meta.

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Reading all these comments and threads about new defenders and their frequency makes me sick. I have a question: how often do you see mid/good champ instead of 5/5 defender or attacker in bgs or aw and in quests? Why would Kabam want to create mid champ, that will not perform in game and in sales? Look at new vulture, nowhere to be seen. And if op defender appears, how often do you see them in quests? Like once or twice a month when you do paragon and valiant quest and maybe later in everest content. Just stop whining about defenders
Its really easy to not read them. You're not required to read posts. Just ignore them. Unless younger paid to read forum posts, I don't see why they would bother you that much. Ignore and move on. Simple.

Yeap, you’re right