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Thoughts on Mystic Champs in Raids?

Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 585 ★★★
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With the raid bosses switching to include Ebony Maw (who is extremely annoying when you have buffs), my alliance is debating whether or not Cosmics are even viable for Tacticians this week. But looking at the pool, there are only 9 Mystic Champs available (10 if you count 6*): Chavez, Kush, Juggs, Enchantress, White Tiger, Mojo, Sym Supreme, Tigra, OG Scarlet Witch, and Doom. But I NEVER hear anyone using these in Raids.

So does anyone use any of them regularly and can pass along recommendations?

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  • MeriocreGamerMeriocreGamer Member Posts: 114 ★
    I’m wondering if Vox with his miss counter would work. Otherwise I’m going to have to go Kushala or Chavez.
  • Alphapanda333Alphapanda333 Member Posts: 12 ★
    Juggs works really well with unparalleled buffs
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 1,041 ★★★★★
    Mojo* wrecked shop the last time I used him with Vicious Placebo. Maw and Spot might be a bit tougher than average but he should still be a capable option.

    *Disclaimer: I have a r4 7* Mojo. I still think he’d be fine at lower rank, but my experience may be a little clouded by that.
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 585 ★★★
    MeriocreGamer said:

    I’m wondering if Vox with his miss counter would work. Otherwise I’m going to have to go Kushala or Chavez.

    Vox was my first thought too, but Maw nullifies 1 Fury, Cruelty, and Precision each (I think) on activation of his SP1, and Vox takes big damage when his buffs are nullified. Unless they add some sort of nullification immunity to the node, won't Vox just get wrecked?
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 566 ★★★
    How is Ebony Maw extremely annoying when you have buffs? His degen from nullifying a buff only triggers once per fight. And you can always just push him to an sp2 and then he'll never nullify you.
  • Timmy2xsTimmy2xs Member Posts: 192 ★
    I think its dumb to alienate an entire class. 2 mystics makes it almost impossible to use a cosmic champ. Especially if things turn out like last week where the bugs completely killed all cosmics. At least switch up roles & mix the classes more if we r going to continue down this road. It doesnt make any sense to continually block us from using an entire class of great champs.
  • BluestoneBluestone Member Posts: 61 ★
    Getting Degen by Ebony Maw once the fight start. using purgatory , not sure why ,.. she can work.
    But the one degen and you melt .. we are gonna need a lot of revives ..
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,137 ★★★★★
    I will say, I used Chavez last week and it was BAD. I was not enjoying her in the way that I usually love Venom. But with two mystic defenders, I used her primarily and it was maybe my most frustrating runs - I wasn't doing enough damage, for some frustrating reason I wasn't getting charges, I just hated it all around.
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 566 ★★★
    Usagicassidy said:

    I will say, I used Chavez last week and it was BAD. I was not enjoying her in the way that I usually love Venom. But with two mystic defenders, I used her primarily and it was maybe my most frustrating runs - I wasn't doing enough damage, for some frustrating reason I wasn't getting charges, I just hated it all around.

    Which hack were you using?
  • FlavyjayFlavyjay Member Posts: 105 ★
    FiiNCH said:

    Flavyjay said:

    I can't hit maw at all, I'm using hit monkey but all my attacks are missing from the start, not a single one is going through (and no there was no falter on me ) is it broken or am I doing something wrong

    Guaranteed critical hits will always miss maw - it’s part of his abilities
    Oh Shiiiii
  • Bigfoot33Bigfoot33 Member Posts: 230 ★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Flavyjay said:

    I can't hit maw at all, I'm using hit monkey but all my attacks are missing from the start, not a single one is going through (and no there was no falter on me ) is it broken or am I doing something wrong

    Guaranteed critical hits will always miss maw - it’s part of his abilities
    Unfortunately you're *bleeped* the only thing you can do is save your revives for the next defender. Make up for it there. Maybe have your 10th back you up.
  • drsnow69drsnow69 Member Posts: 61 ★
    Flavyjay said:

    I can't hit maw at all, I'm using hit monkey but all my attacks are missing from the start, not a single one is going through (and no there was no falter on me ) is it broken or am I doing something wrong

    hit monkey throws guaranteed critical hits maw makes guaranteed critical hits miss.
  • drsnow69drsnow69 Member Posts: 61 ★
    so any champ that has a guaranteed crit can’t be used against maw dazzler ghost hit monkey three big guaranteed crit champs
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 1,041 ★★★★★
    I am now realizing that the mystics aren’t particularly awesome against Spidey Supreme either. That power gain steal is brutal because it also works against MD. I’m running Mojo with Vicious Placebo and in my first run all the power gain from the Placebo Buffs I was triggering expiring just shot Spidey to sp3 twice (I managed to live the first one but the second finished me off). Can’t say I’m a fan of that. I may genuinely be dead in the water for that fight unless I spend units to disable MD.
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  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 585 ★★★
    NoahSansman said:

    How is Ebony Maw extremely annoying when you have buffs? His degen from nullifying a buff only triggers once per fight. And you can always just push him to an sp2 and then he'll never nullify you.

    Easier said than done though, with the way the AI likes to throw SP into block sometimes.
    Squidopus said:

    I am now realizing that the mystics aren’t particularly awesome against Spidey Supreme either. That power gain steal is brutal because it also works against MD. I’m running Mojo with Vicious Placebo and in my first run all the power gain from the Placebo Buffs I was triggering expiring just shot Spidey to sp3 twice (I managed to live the first one but the second finished me off). Can’t say I’m a fan of that. I may genuinely be dead in the water for that fight unless I spend units to disable MD.

    Yup. I went with Kush and Vicious Placebo, and it just feels like I'm baiting specials forever.
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