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Solvarch Deep Dive is out

GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
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Do not rely solely on specials to deal damage and abuse his basic and energize like theres no tomorrow for burst damage
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  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,404 ★★★★★
    edited August 2
    In terms of the kit though he looks dope. Sig seems basically unnecessary if you're comfortable fighting Onslaught and the damage loop looks super unique and satisfying

    Edit- this is literally as on topic as you can get for this post lmao
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    WednesdayLength said:

    I know mike wants feedback so I'll just say that I don't think this new deep dive format works. It's way more confusing and seems to be tailored more towards an audience that doesn't understand game mechanics as well which feels weird given that the deep dives are mostly watched by people that do, at least in my experience

    I appreciate the attempt at a new format more than most, but the skipping around different parts of his kit was just confusing and didn't flow well to me at least.

    Idk how to tag him but that's the feedback

    a lot of people are agreeing with and i'm also in it,they din't even put the synergies not even in the discription

    seriously is that hard to put the text or show them in game soo people pause the video to read?
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,404 ★★★★★
    GilbertoJunior said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    I know mike wants feedback so I'll just say that I don't think this new deep dive format works. It's way more confusing and seems to be tailored more towards an audience that doesn't understand game mechanics as well which feels weird given that the deep dives are mostly watched by people that do, at least in my experience

    I appreciate the attempt at a new format more than most, but the skipping around different parts of his kit was just confusing and didn't flow well to me at least.

    Idk how to tag him but that's the feedback

    a lot of people are agreeing with and i'm also in it,they din't even put the synergies not even in the discription

    seriously is that hard to put the text or show them in game soo people pause the video to read?
    The synergies haven't been there in a long time because is mostly just extra work for something that not that many people pay attention to. I just think not showing the kit in order makes it way more confusing
  • OnepieceisnotrealOnepieceisnotreal Member Posts: 168 ★
    He looks super awesome. We don’t know whether he’s got any other passive immunities. And damage on basic attacks is the way.

    I wish awakened ability had more uses other than just to counter onslaught.
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    Onepieceisnotreal said:

    He looks super awesome. We don’t know whether he’s got any other passive immunities. And damage on basic attacks is the way.

    I wish awakened ability had more uses other than just to counter onslaught.

    Just bleed and Poison Immunity,his a "robot" after all (all eidols are organic Alien androids but i'm counting Solvarch as Robot separately because his the one that looks more artificial,his body is assembled piece by piece)
  • OnepieceisnotrealOnepieceisnotreal Member Posts: 168 ★
    GilbertoJunior said:

    Onepieceisnotreal said:

    He looks super awesome. We don’t know whether he’s got any other passive immunities. And damage on basic attacks is the way.

    I wish awakened ability had more uses other than just to counter onslaught.

    Just bleed and Poison Immunity,his a "robot" after all (all eidols are organic Alien androids but i'm counting Solvarch as Robot separately because his the one that looks more artificial,his body is assembled piece by piece)
    I thought he was gonna have reverse control immunity. Since almost all new mutants has reverse control in their kit .

    If he doesn’t that’s a bummer.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,695 ★★★★★
    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    edited August 2
    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    I just hope hes not good in BGs so we dont miss much
    Not saying he's op or anything but I do think you will miss out to some extent, he already looks very good for Zola Spider Woman and Jean who have been the biggest pains in the ass this year so far and as a plus he can also handle Bullseye and Onslaught so that's already really good value for BGs. If he's 45-60ish secs fast in BGs then he will be very good for BGs even more than Lumatrix, and Lumatrix is already a solid dual threat.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 3,404 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    I just hope hes not good in BGs so we dont miss much
    Not saying he's op or anything but I do think you will miss out to some extent, he already looks very good for Zola Spider Woman and Jean who have been the biggest pains in the ass this year so far and as a plus he can also handle Bullseye and Onslaught so that's already really good value for BGs. If he's 45-60ish secs fast in BGs then he will be very good for BGs even more than Lumatrix, and Lumatrix is already a solid dual threat.
    He does seem like a rough defender if not fought right too
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    WednesdayLength said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    I just hope hes not good in BGs so we dont miss much
    Not saying he's op or anything but I do think you will miss out to some extent, he already looks very good for Zola Spider Woman and Jean who have been the biggest pains in the ass this year so far and as a plus he can also handle Bullseye and Onslaught so that's already really good value for BGs. If he's 45-60ish secs fast in BGs then he will be very good for BGs even more than Lumatrix, and Lumatrix is already a solid dual threat.
    He does seem like a rough defender if not fought right too
    someone on Discord called him the Tech Gentle on defense,i think it fits after the deep dive
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    I just hope hes not good in BGs so we dont miss much
    Not saying he's op or anything but I do think you will miss out to some extent, he already looks very good for Zola Spider Woman and Jean who have been the biggest pains in the ass this year so far and as a plus he can also handle Bullseye and Onslaught so that's already really good value for BGs. If he's 45-60ish secs fast in BGs then he will be very good for BGs even more than Lumatrix, and Lumatrix is already a solid dual threat.
    He does seem like a rough defender if not fought right too
    Yeah I think he might become the first meta relevant eidol because the fact that he can already handle those five is enough to make it worth having him in your deck. Then there's also the stalling potential on defense, he looks very good and definitely better than Lumatrix.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,695 ★★★★★
    Solvarch clearly resembles an updated version of nimrod. Energize power drain Armor regen robot and importantly two modes like nimrod. At first look he even looks better than bastion for me. Let's see how he ends up.
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch clearly resembles an updated version of nimrod. Energize power drain Armor regen robot and importantly two modes like nimrod. At first look he even looks better than bastion for me. Let's see how he ends up.

    But doesn't take out Havok from what looks like
  • El_ProfessorEl_Professor Member Posts: 43 ★
    I’m not sure on the new format yet, will have to get used to it - but, one piece of feedback I wanted to share was I loved showcasing multiple rotations. Super interesting and useful to see the kit come together in different ways and against different opponents. Also loved the Quick Look as a defender too
  • El_ProfessorEl_Professor Member Posts: 43 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch clearly resembles an updated version of nimrod. Energize power drain Armor regen robot and importantly two modes like nimrod. At first look he even looks better than bastion for me. Let's see how he ends up.

    I worry his damage won’t translate as well as Bastion’s - Bastion has good damage against everyone (disintegrate is direct damage vs Solvarch’s physcial), Solvarch seems to only unleash his full damage against target matchups and even then the damage still doesn’t seem as good as Bastions?

  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    El_Professor said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch clearly resembles an updated version of nimrod. Energize power drain Armor regen robot and importantly two modes like nimrod. At first look he even looks better than bastion for me. Let's see how he ends up.

    I worry his damage won’t translate as well as Bastion’s - Bastion has good damage against everyone (disintegrate is direct damage vs Solvarch’s physcial), Solvarch seems to only unleash his full damage against target matchups and even then the damage still doesn’t seem as good as Bastions?

    Solvarch other abilities deal more damage on ther own but the moment Bastion S1 gets a desintegration is way too much for Solvarch to keep up
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,634 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Polygon said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    I just hope hes not good in BGs so we dont miss much
    Not saying he's op or anything but I do think you will miss out to some extent, he already looks very good for Zola Spider Woman and Jean who have been the biggest pains in the ass this year so far and as a plus he can also handle Bullseye and Onslaught so that's already really good value for BGs. If he's 45-60ish secs fast in BGs then he will be very good for BGs even more than Lumatrix, and Lumatrix is already a solid dual threat.
    He does seem like a rough defender if not fought right too
    Yeah I think he might become the first meta relevant eidol because the fact that he can already handle those five is enough to make it worth having him in your deck. Then there's also the stalling potential on defense, he looks very good and definitely better than Lumatrix.
    Ngl we're doomed if this is the case, cause it enables them to continue making champions p2w, which is a new precedent. (Emphasis on champions as other ingame items are fine to be paywal gated)

    But Like the plat track at least gives units and other benefits, and champs like tigra or nick can at least been obtained with units. The $ you spend for these eidols doesnt give you anything else of value. And if theyre going to be meta then it eliminates the incentive of grinding to get champs, like how we had to for thanos.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    I know mike wants feedback,

    Idk how to tag him but that's the feedback

    @WednesdayLength I see all -

    Appreciate the feedback!
    I think the different rotations part as well as the defensive abilities part were great and if you have the time, you should keep those parts in but I do think the start of the video for the core mechanics was very confusing. I like it better when you read the kit and abilities one by one and show how they work.
  • Toyota_2015Toyota_2015 Member Posts: 998 ★★★★
    Someone in the comments said he looks like Obelisk the Tormentor and now I can’t unsee it
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,339 ★★★★★
    Eidol Nimrod?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,339 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    Did they say when they will enter basics?
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 410 ★
    edited August 3
    EdisonLaw said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch looks absolutely amazing. He can easily ensure the opponent never throws a sp3 in longer fights. Can throw back to back specials. Great against mutants. Fun for those who can afford to get him. We peasants have to wait until he hit basics

    Did they say when they will enter basics?
    No but at least i expect next year after all eidols are release
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,535 ★★★★★
    edited August 3
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:



    @WednesdayLength I see all -

    Now I'm freaked out a little.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,402 ★★★★★
    edited August 3
    CheeseMaster482 said:

    They say the deep dives take too much money to make. Some dude with an hour of capcut experience could make the same video for free.

    Why don't Kabam stop making deep dives and see how much money they exactly lose out from bad sales of new hero crystals bundles and champion money events? 🥴
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,695 ★★★★★
    El_Professor said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Solvarch clearly resembles an updated version of nimrod. Energize power drain Armor regen robot and importantly two modes like nimrod. At first look he even looks better than bastion for me. Let's see how he ends up.

    I worry his damage won’t translate as well as Bastion’s - Bastion has good damage against everyone (disintegrate is direct damage vs Solvarch’s physcial), Solvarch seems to only unleash his full damage against target matchups and even then the damage still doesn’t seem as good as Bastions?

    You're right but solvarch seems to have similar dps to bastion in general, and more control on target matchups. Bastion has beter damage, but overall solvarch looks better.

    Take the defensive consideration too bastion has nothing on defense while solvarch can do something. I
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