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When Will We See Them as 7*’s?

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  • Xleb said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Could you please reply in another thread about whether there will be a limit on Rebirth selectors (considering that you can get 6 tokens in total, which means 2 selectors... or no)
    I've confirmed that each Selector Pull will cost 3x Tokens.
    There are more than 3x Tokens this year, so you can obtain more than one.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,731 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    By the time we reach 8* level a lot of current mid to slighlty useful champs become completely useless, so they can tune up/buff them. So they wouldn't run out of buffs.

    But Thing is they couldn't buff all the mid champs eventually they have to release some like og cap and og daredevil as it is as 7*.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,748 ★★★★★
    edited August 4

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    By the time we reach 8* level a lot of current mid to slighlty useful champs become completely useless, so they can tune up/buff them. So they wouldn't run out of buffs.

    But Thing is they couldn't buff all the mid champs eventually they have to release some like og cap and og daredevil as it is as 7*.
    Yeah but that wouldn't generate the same hype a summoner's choice rework like the current one would. They need to leave some champs that are currently trash bottom of the barrel in the same spot so they can do big reworks and overhauls like they just did with Cyclops (and soon Ghost Rider)
    I agree with buffing champs that are currently mid to bad, but the trash ones that are nothing but memes no. Those need to be completely reworked and for obvious reasons they're not going to rush and do all of them before 8*. They also won't release them cause what even is the point? Would you be happy to pull 7* Groot from a Titan in his current state? Lol
  • XlebXleb Member Posts: 908 ★★★

    Xleb said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Could you please reply in another thread about whether there will be a limit on Rebirth selectors (considering that you can get 6 tokens in total, which means 2 selectors... or no)
    I've confirmed that each Selector Pull will cost 3x Tokens.
    There are more than 3x Tokens this year, so you can obtain more than one.
    Thanks Rex
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,534 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    I’m not sure where you’re getting buffs from, no one is talking about that topic here?
    Why would they release any of the champs that are left without any tune ups when most of them are completely useless and extremely outdated?
    Therefore they need to be buffed first so they can actually be released, hence my question if they buff all of them before 8* then who will they buff when 8* come around?
    The whole point of the post from Zola is there are a sizeable volume of champions ready to go into the 7* pool without a buff or tune up. He provided a broken down list per class.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 9,228 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Again, we're releasing 8 of them into the 7 Star Pool next month, I think that's quite a lot at once.
    We need to have somewhere to go and things to release -

    There are 300 Champions in the game now. When 6 Stars were released, there were about 150...
    Of course, all of those Champions entered the highest rarity quicker than 7 Stars did because there were about half as many of them.
    I think the real question they're trying to ask is "what's stopping you from releasing more of the great champions as 7* I.e. Hulkling, Doom, etc."
  • DaddriedaDaddrieda Member Posts: 1,773 ★★★★
    Was there not a point where kabam said that every 6* champions that wasn’t released as 7* version will be released? What’s stopping you for not releasing those then? I’d like to have a 7* Aegon for an example. I’d love to own a 7* Hercules. It be really fun to play 7* daredevil classic. That’s what the question was about.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Again, we're releasing 8 of them into the 7 Star Pool next month, I think that's quite a lot at once.
    We need to have somewhere to go and things to release -

    There are 300 Champions in the game now. When 6 Stars were released, there were about 150...
    Of course, all of those Champions entered the highest rarity quicker than 7 Stars did because there were about half as many of them.
    I think the real question they're trying to ask is "what's stopping you from releasing more of the great champions as 7* I.e. Hulkling, Doom, etc."
    That’s not the question. We all know why that is 💰💰
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 9,228 ★★★★★
    edited August 4
    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Incoming counter point before it gets used against everyone "you guys just got torch, red guardian, nick fury, fam, galan, and dark phoenix"

    Like all but 1 of those was paywalled
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,748 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    I’m not sure where you’re getting buffs from, no one is talking about that topic here?
    Why would they release any of the champs that are left without any tune ups when most of them are completely useless and extremely outdated?
    Therefore they need to be buffed first so they can actually be released, hence my question if they buff all of them before 8* then who will they buff when 8* come around?
    The whole point of the post from Zola is there are a sizeable volume of champions ready to go into the 7* pool without a buff or tune up. He provided a broken down list per class.
    Jubilee, Miles, Yellowjacket, Silver Centurion, Morningstar would be effective as 7*? They're the perfect definition of outdated I don't know what you mean.
    I can agree with Nimrod, Claire, Cassie and some others but the others absolutely need tune ups, they're not even close to being good like OP says unless you're currently focusing on Act 4 or something.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Incoming counter point before it gets used against everyone "you guys just got torch, red guardian, nick fury, fam, galan, and dark phoenix"

    Like all but 1 of those was paywalled
    And to add - none of them are in the 7* basic pool, so not available to the player base
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    I’m not sure where you’re getting buffs from, no one is talking about that topic here?
    Why would they release any of the champs that are left without any tune ups when most of them are completely useless and extremely outdated?
    Therefore they need to be buffed first so they can actually be released, hence my question if they buff all of them before 8* then who will they buff when 8* come around?
    The whole point of the post from Zola is there are a sizeable volume of champions ready to go into the 7* pool without a buff or tune up. He provided a broken down list per class.
    Jubilee, Miles, Yellowjacket, Silver Centurion, Morningstar would be effective as 7*? They're the perfect definition of outdated I don't know what you mean.
    I can agree with Nimrod, Claire, Cassie and some others but the others absolutely need tune ups, they're not even close to being good like OP says unless you're currently focusing on Act 4 or something.
    Yep, if you take the list literally, you can argue some of the example champs need a tune up.

    But still, there are a bunch of champs who don’t, and could be released. If we need to wait for 1 of the few yearly events then cool, but it’s still a valid question to ask Kabam.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,534 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Its literally why though. They are spacing them out. Not that hard to understand.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,814 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Its literally why though. They are spacing them out. Not that hard to understand.
    Because the pace we’re on it will take another 2/3 years to see some of these champs…
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,748 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    Well, what reason could there be for them to buff every champ before 8*? If they buff every single champ in the game before 8* come out what will there be left to buff then? Sure you could argue certain 7* like DDHK and Red Hulk could receive tune ups but realistically they would run out of those very fast unless they just start releasing new mid champs every month, and yes this is thinking very far ahead into the future but it's what makes sense.
    If they want to keep the game alive for years to come they have to drag this thing out as much as possible, if they buff all the champs we have left right now then 8* won't be as interesting.
    I’m not sure where you’re getting buffs from, no one is talking about that topic here?
    Why would they release any of the champs that are left without any tune ups when most of them are completely useless and extremely outdated?
    Therefore they need to be buffed first so they can actually be released, hence my question if they buff all of them before 8* then who will they buff when 8* come around?
    The whole point of the post from Zola is there are a sizeable volume of champions ready to go into the 7* pool without a buff or tune up. He provided a broken down list per class.
    Jubilee, Miles, Yellowjacket, Silver Centurion, Morningstar would be effective as 7*? They're the perfect definition of outdated I don't know what you mean.
    I can agree with Nimrod, Claire, Cassie and some others but the others absolutely need tune ups, they're not even close to being good like OP says unless you're currently focusing on Act 4 or something.
    Yep, if you take the list literally, you can argue some of the example champs need a tune up.

    But still, there are a bunch of champs who don’t, and could be released. If we need to wait for 1 of the few yearly events then cool, but it’s still a valid question to ask Kabam.
    And they probably will be, we just have to be patient. They're releasing Zemo this cycle, they released SS on the last one, they're doing it just not at the same pace as they were before when the Titan cycle was different.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,534 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Its literally why though. They are spacing them out. Not that hard to understand.
    Because the pace we’re on it will take another 2/3 years to see some of these champs…
    Which fits right in with when 8* will probably start to be seen. That's part of the entire timeliness of how often they release old champs at the new higher rarity. Its all connected. They have all this timed out in advance. They know the lifecycle.
  • Wasy1Wasy1 Member Posts: 130
    DrZola said:

    There are obvious champs that we may never see as 7* (Quake, Herc) and some that may only be released as 7* in monetized events or as special prizes (Magik, Kitty, Wolverine, e.g.) while still others may be on hold because they could be too effective with 7* stats (Hulkling, Scorpion, Valk, e.g.).

    But there’s a large-ish group of good to very good champs who aren’t game breaking but can still be effective in their current state as 7*.

    For example:

    Tech: Nimrod, Silver Centurion, Star-Lord
    Mutant: Toad, Jubilee, Cable
    Science: Cassie, Miles, Wasp, YJ
    Skill: Agent Venom, Stealth Spidey
    Cosmic: Champion, Thor, Ikaris
    Mystic: Mephisto, Morningstar, Claire Voyant

    What’s holding back releasing champs like this in a special crystal or generally?

    Dr. Zola

    Why not Doom, kingpin, Magneto? How many years we have to wait for these champs to be released as 7*?
  • SambobSambob Member Posts: 75 ★★
    edited August 4
    ESF said:

    ahmynuts said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Buttehrs said:

    FiiNCH said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Quote a simple question really. What’s stopping you from increasing the release cadence of champions not available as 7*’s?

    We’re already at the rank 4 progression of 7* and there’s a lot of champions not released in the highest rarity. At the pace we’re on we’ll be moving towards 8* before the full champion pool has been released as 7*’s.

    That's exactly how it was with 6* though. We had a ton of 5* left behind for a long time.
    It was obviously a few years ago now, but I don’t recall the release cadence being anywhere near as slow as it is for 7*’s currently.
    There's a reason for it that Mike already stated. If they give us all champs in-game as 7* right now, what exactly would there be to look forward to? Also, how would you rank any of them up? There's a reason the game drip feeds you champs and rank up resources. You'd play for a month tops, get bored and delete the game. That's basically a console version of mortal kombat.
    This thread isn’t asking for all champs to be released in one go. It’s questioning why certain champs who don’t particularly need a tune up or buff aren’t being released.
    Incoming counter point before it gets used against everyone "you guys just got torch, red guardian, nick fury, fam, galan, and dark phoenix"

    Like all but 1 of those was paywalled
    That’s exactly what I was coming here to say — I definitely don’t want to speak for Zola, as the OP. But since we were asked to make the question more clear, that’s my question/concern:

    To be clear, I absolutely want Kabam to make money. Because I want the game to exist. I spend as part of my entertainment budget, always have/will.

    Yes, 7-stars are released in various ways. Which is great.

    But are we really saying that 7-star Human Torch is “released”? Is that really the best phrase to describe what that is?

    If a character is in a one of the Key events — which, again, is totally fine, because the game needs to generate revenue, and scarcity has value — is it really accurate to say Nick Fury is “released”?

    Again, the reason I care is that at some point, the older characters that aren’t getting any kinds of buffs or reworks/what-not — like Human Torch — should they really be getting paywalled by rarity?

    To be clear, I am not saying that about, for example…Dark Phoenix. New character/kit, make money on the release. Go for it. I get it. I want it to happen.

    Same with the Eidols and Deathless. Whatever else. Sell it and make money. Keep the game going.

    But the old kits — the Thors and Yellowjackets of the world — it’s kinda awkward when those aren’t released by now. Because we hear it and understand: There is no more capacity for extensive reworks. So…those wouldn’t be paywalled. Right?

    It feels uncomfortable to me, just thinking about it.

    So, yeah, to answer the question, I absolutely do think there should be a dump of a chunk of characters into the 7-star Basic.

    I absolutely there should be 7-star Class Crystals. I don’t understand why those don’t exist.

    Because we are in 7r4, and while I totally understand a complete rework like Blue Cyclops being placed on the Platinum track and then the Titan crystal — because again, I do want Kabam to make money! I do! — it felt a little bit uncomfortable when Captain Britain’s relatively minor changes were placed on the track. People can certainly disagree with me there, but that felt like a straight-to-basic kit.

    That’s where I am. That’s why I agree with the OP — if there’s not a ton of capacity for reworks, and some of those kits are just “fine,” and the two new releases a month are still going…IDK. The Key system, the 7-star Human Torch…IDK, man.

    It’s starting to make even me, someone who spends and wants Kabam to make money, a little uncomfortable.




    Very well said. Dark Phoenix didn’t bother me as much as red guardian, human torch, etc. We were INTRODUCED to her as a paywalled champ. The others, we were introduced to as our favorite champs that we expected to always be able to play.

    Then eventually their star level is made irrelevant and essentially we have to pay to continue to use them. It’s scummy. I’d rather them just increase the number of champions developed specifically as paywalled champs instead of paywalling classic champs.

    My heart is going to shatter when they inevitably “release” 7* doom for $800 next year :(
  • Kabam (Osaurus) RexKabam (Osaurus) Rex Community Posts: 499
    edited August 4
    Sambob said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?


    You say that last point like it’s a completely ridiculous idea, yet that’s basically what was done with every new star level up until this point… The only reason this seems ridiculous to you now is because many 7* are now paywalled or event locked.

    I get you guys have your reasons, but dude, you really need to work on not sounding so condescending to legitimate questions and concerns on the forums.
    That is not how Champions entered the pool in previous rarities, even when the Champion pool was half as large as it is now; it would be a bit ridiculous and unrealistic to launch 300 Champions in the new rarity all at once.

    If you're reading my questions in a condescending tone, then I'm sorry it came across that way.
    Tone through text is often interpreted the way you want to be reading it.

    It was a legitimate question as to whether that's what was being asked for here -
    And if that's what the ask was, I can firmly say that is not going to happen based on various reasons outlined in this thread by myself and others.
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,114 ★★★★★

    Sambob said:

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?


    You say that last point like it’s a completely ridiculous idea, yet that’s basically what was done with every new star level up until this point… The only reason this seems ridiculous to you now is because many 7* are now paywalled or event locked.

    I get you guys have your reasons, but dude, you really need to work on not sounding so condescending to legitimate questions and concerns on the forums.
    That is not how Champions entered the pool in previous rarities, even when the Champion pool was half as large as it is now; it would be a bit ridiculous and unrealistic to launch 300 Champions in the new rarity all at once.

    If you're reading my questions in a condescending tone, then I'm sorry it came across that way.
    Tone through text is often interpreted the way you want to be reading it.

    It was a legitimate question as to whether that's what was being asked for here -
    And if that's what the ask was, I can firmly say that is not going to happen based on various reasons outlined in this thread by myself and others.
    So, OK, but you do realize that if we’re going to talk about how kits were released in previous rarities, things like the Platinum track and how 7-star Torch was introduced wasn’t how they were introduced, either?

    Again, we get that there is a financial component to all this. Nobody at all is saying, “Hey, you know, you guys should drop 7-star Doom and 7-star Red Magneto into a $4.99 selector. Tomorrow.”

    We get it.

    But unless I misunderstand the Key system, unless you spend, you didn’t get all six of the last batch with Apocalypse, Nick Fury, etc.

    Those kits also aren’t in the Basic.

    They weren’t buffed.

    Sooooo…that is little bit uncomfortable.
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,897 ★★★★★
    edited August 4

    I don't entirely understand the question here.
    We consistently release new Champions to the 7 Star pool in various ways.

    There are 8 new 7 Star Champions coming in August -

    Are you wanting us to just mass drop every 7 Star into the pool all at once?

    Got busy and came back to 50+ responses. Nice.

    Bit of a straw man phrasing it that way…I don’t think anyone suggested a “mass drop.”

    Personally, I’d like to see some of the champs who could hold their own as is (more or less) added to the Titan as we go. Those that need a little tweak or boost could be added later or included in some of the event crystals (a la Omega Days or Reunion or other similar crystals). Or they could even be platinum pass chase champs like Blue Cyke.

    I’d even suggest enlarging the size of the overall Titan pool—especially since champs now remain in the crystal for the same length of time it takes to carry a human baby to term.

    But no—not a mass drop. Just work them into the game before we fire up the 8* champs.

    Dr. Zola
  • Also, keep in mind, we used to roll out more older Champions in the Titan… I personally liked that, however, we shifted that strategy so we could include more newer Champions in the Crystal - since the feedback was overwhelmingly rooted in pulling older Champions being a poor Titan experience.

    We still see that same sentiment with the small number of older Champions we have in there now (no offense to the Red Hulk fans)
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