I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
That was Act 7, this is Act 8 lol you 100% need counters for some fights, other you don't but they're way harder and longer without one.
I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
That was Act 7, this is Act 8 lol you 100% need counters for some fights, other you don't but they're way harder and longer without one.
Haha, if she was Act 7, then it really won't be a problem. I was also gonna say bring Void for BWCV, but I think that was Act 9.
Maybe I will take a look at simula's guide, but his Ordeal guide was pretty crappy imo because he's so eager to get it out as early as possible that he doesn't wait for the actual new content to be released but instead just bases it on the prior content. Which I think is what he's going to do here as well.
I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
That was Act 7, this is Act 8 lol you 100% need counters for some fights, other you don't but they're way harder and longer without one.
Haha, if she was Act 7, then it really won't be a problem. I was also gonna say bring Void for BWCV, but I think that was Act 9.
Maybe I will take a look at simula's guide, but his Ordeal guide was pretty crappy imo because he's so eager to get it out as early as possible that he doesn't wait for the actual new content to be released but instead just bases it on the prior content. Which I think is what he's going to do here as well.
What was the problem with his Ordeal planner? It worked out for me, at the least. The only thing that will make his Act 8 Crucible planner flop is when Kabam decides to 7* locked the content. Right now, he's actually considering that it won't be 7* locked.
I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
That was Act 7, this is Act 8 lol you 100% need counters for some fights, other you don't but they're way harder and longer without one.
Haha, if she was Act 7, then it really won't be a problem. I was also gonna say bring Void for BWCV, but I think that was Act 9.
Maybe I will take a look at simula's guide, but his Ordeal guide was pretty crappy imo because he's so eager to get it out as early as possible that he doesn't wait for the actual new content to be released but instead just bases it on the prior content. Which I think is what he's going to do here as well.
What was the problem with his Ordeal planner? It worked out for me, at the least. The only thing that will make his Act 8 Crucible planner flop is when Kabam decides to 7* locked the content. Right now, he's actually considering that it won't be 7* locked.
It can totally work out, but sometimes his alternative suggestions are bad, or don't include the best alternatives, especially when he hasn't personally tested those alternatives and the new content he's giving guides for. Anyway, I understand the battle for clicks doesn't reward patience.
I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
That was Act 7, this is Act 8 lol you 100% need counters for some fights, other you don't but they're way harder and longer without one.
Haha, if she was Act 7, then it really won't be a problem. I was also gonna say bring Void for BWCV, but I think that was Act 9.
Maybe I will take a look at simula's guide, but his Ordeal guide was pretty crappy imo because he's so eager to get it out as early as possible that he doesn't wait for the actual new content to be released but instead just bases it on the prior content. Which I think is what he's going to do here as well.
Personally I'm just doing mine by looking at the nodes, there's really not much else to look into because all the nodes are exactly the same and fights aren't nearly as hard and restrictive as Ordeal was, much less WoF.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
I explored Act 8 earlier this year. It was pretty easy. I can't even imagine doing it with my current roster. Just dive in and pick the worst counter you have for each fight and move on to the next, it will work itself out. No need to plan for this if you've 100% Necro, EoP, WoF, etc.
Yeah there is a need to plan. You could end up getting stuck with a terrible counter to a fight, and while it may still be doable, it'll cost you more revives.
Just save Red Mags for Gwenperion. There is no other fight that will punish you for not having one specific counter. This isn't AoA or something where each fight requires a specific size champ from a specific class with specific tags. You'll be fine if you have experience.
Like i really dont get the point in spreading the misinformation of it being 7* locked,during act 7 crucible's time, we had abt 35-40 7*s they could lock it to 7* but they didn't cuz it would legit leave 60-80% of the community unable to do it. So yeah it aint being 7* locked
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
Huh? There are only about 65 x 7* in the game right now? You sure about that?? 🤪
Guys let me tell my strategy. Make. A excel sheet. List each boss name (ex : 8.1.1 redskull). Look at your roster. Create two columns, available counters, the champ I'm gonna use.
Fill the available counters with all the champs in YOUR ROSTER who you feel could do this fight.
Ex : for 8.1.1 stryfe you need a champ that applies incenerates. So counters may include sentinel, Prowler, ironheart, IMIW etc. List out all these champs in available counter.
Do this for all fights. Remember you can list out the same champ multiple times in this column.
Next go through each colum and pick one champ for this fight in such a way you'll have counters for every fight. Reserve your best champs for ouroborus boss.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
Your information is very outdated, we're currently at 205 7* in-game no idea where you got 65 from, and that number is without counting the 6* that are getting buffed and becoming 7* this month. There are 64 fights in the Crucible but champs we're well over 200 so no it isn't unreasonable at all. Furthermore, I already started doing my list and so far, 8.1 and 8.2 all have more than five options to deal with every boss and unlike WoF they're not niche champs which is what made the whole thing extremely restrictive.
Just because they haven't announced doesn't meant it isn't a strong possibility, look at the rewards, they're way too crazy to be tailored for anyone who isn't already an endgame player.
Like i really dont get the point in spreading the misinformation of it being 7* locked,during act 7 crucible's time, we had abt 35-40 7*s they could lock it to 7* but they didn't cuz it would legit leave 60-80% of the community unable to do it. So yeah it aint being 7* locked
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
I'd be very surprised if they didn't too, calling it legendary and not locking it behind 7* would defeat the whole purpose of the word legendary as a difficulty level. Last year we had 6* and it wasn't that hard, if it isn't 7* locked this year it'll be even easier and for the rewards we're getting that's just insane.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
I'd be very surprised if they didn't too, calling it legendary and not locking it behind 7* would defeat the whole purpose of the word legendary as a difficulty level. Last year we had 6* and it wasn't that hard, if it isn't 7* locked this year it'll be even easier and for the rewards we're getting that's just insane.
Not saying they won't 7* lock it, it's a big possibility but the rewards are not that insane, they are the exact same as last years crucible. They just increased the rank up gem to the current top rank.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
I'd be very surprised if they didn't too, calling it legendary and not locking it behind 7* would defeat the whole purpose of the word legendary as a difficulty level. Last year we had 6* and it wasn't that hard, if it isn't 7* locked this year it'll be even easier and for the rewards we're getting that's just insane.
Not saying they won't 7* lock it, it's a big possibility but the rewards are not that insane, they are the exact same as last years crucible. They just increased the rank up gem to the current top rank.
Yes but the difference is last year 6* r5 were still the strongest so a r3 gem made sense, this year a r4 + a Titan nexus for people who are still using 6* would be a pretty crazy reward. For us endgame players they're good nothing too crazy I do agree with that, but for a Paragon it's a big deal, and if they don't lock the content behind 7* most Paragons will be able to do it. Not trying to gatekeep but endgame content is endgame content for a reason lol
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
I'd be very surprised if they didn't too, calling it legendary and not locking it behind 7* would defeat the whole purpose of the word legendary as a difficulty level. Last year we had 6* and it wasn't that hard, if it isn't 7* locked this year it'll be even easier and for the rewards we're getting that's just insane.
Not saying they won't 7* lock it, it's a big possibility but the rewards are not that insane, they are the exact same as last years crucible. They just increased the rank up gem to the current top rank.
Yes but the difference is last year 6* r5 were still the strongest so a r3 gem made sense, this year a r4 + a Titan nexus for people who are still using 6* would be a pretty crazy reward. For us endgame players they're good nothing too crazy I do agree with that, but for a Paragon it's a big deal, and if they don't lock the content behind 7* most Paragons will be able to do it. Not trying to gatekeep but endgame content is endgame content for a reason lol
The content itself should be valiant locked wym wof is valiant locked right?
If you think of it opening it to paragons doesnt3ven make sense since paragon can complete this content before actually facing these bosses in story mode.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
No it wont, there are just abt 65 7* in the game and i dont think kabam would expect us to take 64 fights? I dont think so and if it were 7* locked it would've been mentioned
There are around 200 7* in the game atm (,july update). And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
I'd be very surprised if they didn't too, calling it legendary and not locking it behind 7* would defeat the whole purpose of the word legendary as a difficulty level. Last year we had 6* and it wasn't that hard, if it isn't 7* locked this year it'll be even easier and for the rewards we're getting that's just insane.
Not saying they won't 7* lock it, it's a big possibility but the rewards are not that insane, they are the exact same as last years crucible. They just increased the rank up gem to the current top rank.
Yes but the difference is last year 6* r5 were still the strongest so a r3 gem made sense, this year a r4 + a Titan nexus for people who are still using 6* would be a pretty crazy reward. For us endgame players they're good nothing too crazy I do agree with that, but for a Paragon it's a big deal, and if they don't lock the content behind 7* most Paragons will be able to do it. Not trying to gatekeep but endgame content is endgame content for a reason lol
The content itself should be valiant locked wym wof is valiant locked right?
I'm not sure, I don't think Crucible was Valiant locked last year was it? And neither was Necropolis. I honestly don't think they should lock endgame content when it comes with a realm event of it's own tbh but we'll see. I think the 7* lock is enough but it shouldn't be locked for Paragon and below that's easy money right there.
If you think of it opening it to paragons doesnt3ven make sense since paragon can complete this content before actually facing these bosses in story mode.
That is true, it will either be 7* locked or Valiant locked then, we'll see which one it is. Only reason I think Valiant locked would be dumb is because there's a whole realm event tied to it.
If you’re doing this, you start with the best, highest ranked counters for the bosses first. If you’re doing anything other than Bahamut with Cheeilth, I’d argue you aren’t thinking about this properly.
To those saying "you don't need to plan anything or a spreadsheet" I guarantee you will, some of these fights are roadblocks without a proper counter and the whole thing is almost 99% guaranteed to be 7* locked in legendary difficulty because allowing 6* would be way too easy. I'll be posting an extensive list with all the 7* options for every fight that requires OR is easier with a counter tonight, if anyone wants to use it good, if you don't oh well 😀
7 star locking it would make it impossible for 99% of the playerbase. It'll be 6 star minimum at most
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I was also gonna say bring Void for BWCV, but I think that was Act 9.
Maybe I will take a look at simula's guide, but his Ordeal guide was pretty crappy imo because he's so eager to get it out as early as possible that he doesn't wait for the actual new content to be released but instead just bases it on the prior content.
Which I think is what he's going to do here as well.
Anyway, I understand the battle for clicks doesn't reward patience.
And as a complete ftp I have 147 7*.
It is totally possible, and logically high chance to lock it behind 7*.
They want to hike the difficulty. I'll be surprised if they didn't lock it behind 7*.
Huh? There are only about 65 x 7* in the game right now? You sure about that?? 🤪
List each boss name (ex : 8.1.1 redskull). Look at your roster. Create two columns, available counters, the champ I'm gonna use.
Fill the available counters with all the champs in YOUR ROSTER who you feel could do this fight.
Ex : for 8.1.1 stryfe you need a champ that applies incenerates. So counters may include sentinel, Prowler, ironheart, IMIW etc. List out all these champs in available counter.
Do this for all fights. Remember you can list out the same champ multiple times in this column.
Next go through each colum and pick one champ for this fight in such a way you'll have counters for every fight. Reserve your best champs for ouroborus boss.
Just because they haven't announced doesn't meant it isn't a strong possibility, look at the rewards, they're way too crazy to be tailored for anyone who isn't already an endgame player.
found this by MCOC NOOB on reddit. This is the only one others are not compiled.
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If you’re doing this, you start with the best, highest ranked counters for the bosses first. If you’re doing anything other than Bahamut with Cheeilth, I’d argue you aren’t thinking about this properly.
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