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Solvarch is a letdown?

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  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    What do you do, when the same few street dogs keeps 💩 on your porch?
    You clean the 💩 and shootem (maybe you call animal control idk)
    Your reply tells me, you are the kind of guy who'd ignore the 💩, let it stink and reward the behaviour by feeding them.
    Mods don't care and the fact that someone responds just makes it worse since they respond back every single time. Your illiteracy is a bigger problem honestly. Keep feeding the troll, go ahead :)
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,413 ★★★★★

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    What do you do, when the same few street dogs keeps 💩 on your porch?
    You clean the 💩 and shootem (maybe you call animal control idk)
    Your reply tells me, you are the kind of guy who'd ignore the 💩, let it stink and reward the behaviour by feeding them.
    Mods don't care and the fact that someone responds just makes it worse since they respond back every single time. Your illiteracy is a bigger problem honestly. Keep feeding the troll, go ahead :)
    I'm feeding one right now. It's you. :smile:
    Or do I need a degree to do that?
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    What do you do, when the same few street dogs keeps 💩 on your porch?
    You clean the 💩 and shootem (maybe you call animal control idk)
    Your reply tells me, you are the kind of guy who'd ignore the 💩, let it stink and reward the behaviour by feeding them.
    Mods don't care and the fact that someone responds just makes it worse since they respond back every single time. Your illiteracy is a bigger problem honestly. Keep feeding the troll, go ahead :)
    I'm feeding one right now. It's you. :smile:
    Or do I need a degree to do that?
    Why are you attention seeking all of a sudden, I wasn't even talking to you with that degree stuff haha. Your friend is lucky to have you though, you're a brave guy for standing up for him. How cute :)
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,413 ★★★★★

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    What do you do, when the same few street dogs keeps 💩 on your porch?
    You clean the 💩 and shootem (maybe you call animal control idk)
    Your reply tells me, you are the kind of guy who'd ignore the 💩, let it stink and reward the behaviour by feeding them.
    Mods don't care and the fact that someone responds just makes it worse since they respond back every single time. Your illiteracy is a bigger problem honestly. Keep feeding the troll, go ahead :)
    I'm feeding one right now. It's you. :smile:
    Or do I need a degree to do that?
    Why are you attention seeking all of a sudden, I wasn't even talking to you with that degree stuff haha. Your friend is lucky to have you though, you're a brave guy for standing up for him. How cute :)
    You replied to me! And tbh It does feels like people have had enough of these obvious ragey threads and comments.
    I just want to stick with my gifs(and reply to actual players with confusions here and there).
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    Silence is more powerful than words and there are times when staying silent is no longer an otpion.🙂
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,828 ★★★★★

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    What do you do, when the same few street dogs keeps 💩 on your porch?
    You clean the 💩 and shootem (maybe you call animal control idk)
    Your reply tells me, you are the kind of guy who'd ignore the 💩, let it stink and reward the behaviour by feeding them.
    Mods don't care and the fact that someone responds just makes it worse since they respond back every single time. Your illiteracy is a bigger problem honestly. Keep feeding the troll, go ahead :)
    I'm feeding one right now. It's you. :smile:
    Or do I need a degree to do that?
    Why are you attention seeking all of a sudden, I wasn't even talking to you with that degree stuff haha. Your friend is lucky to have you though, you're a brave guy for standing up for him. How cute :)

  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,557 ★★★★★
    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,828 ★★★★★
    edited August 10

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★
    edited August 10
    Tech Havok? Kinda reminds me of him because of big sp3 damage, energy dmg ramp up, and burst dmg
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★

    Community trying to gaslight themselves into thinking a borderline useless champion is decent? No way! Actually funny how easily you guys are still manipulated by a single youtube video showcasing a champion in battlegrounds with no nodes and masteries. He might do well against Onslaught, Jean and maybe Cassandra Nova when she's obtainable. That's all the meta mutant defenders she can take really, she can't even do the whole class as well as you're making it out to be so why even bother with him? He's straight up terrible against non-energy/mutant defenders, this shouldn't be of discussion at this point. Considering his utility is based around mutant class it shouldn't come off as a surprise when he still performs poorly against the likes of Enchantress and Photon either.

    As a final note I should clarify that all these comments are based on his expected performance in battlegrounds, maybe he turns out great for war but I see no viability for battlegrounds other than maybe some cheesy metas. Also I find it weird that he can't freely do medium combo enders against Onslaught who is the only justification of his existence but we'll see I guess.

    And please don't come up with "He can counter Captain Britain! ", just let her terrible rework be forgotten 🙏 She already peaked for 2 weeks of a bgs meta, there's no higher for her.

    We haven’t obtained her as a 7* yet from the track
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★
    edited August 10

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44
    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    It's unfortunately too late, a similar thread about Solvarch got closed yesterday with an argument including @ItsClobberinTime yet again. He just can't help it.

    Also I'm talking about those who got cap britain first day, nobody used her ever after that 2 week period of bgs including even those who got her as a 7 star. I don't think she'll be that relevant unless metas are shaped around her.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,828 ★★★★★
    edited August 10
    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Don't reply to him, let him get disagree spammed while he screams inside that echo chamber of his it's funny lol I just needed to get one last jab in cause I know it triggers him but I'm done now, back to Solvarch discussion.
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 488 ★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Gang, I’m surprised this thread has even lasted this long💀🙏🏽
    They closed a thread earlier today. Mods must love the free engagement from these types of threads
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Gang, I’m surprised this thread has even lasted this long💀🙏🏽
    Probably because the mods haven’t seen the thread yet
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 484 ★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★

    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Don't reply to him, let him get disagree spammed while he screams inside that echo chamber of his it's funny lol.
    Honestly I don’t think he cares that much lol
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,828 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Don't reply to him, let him get disagree spammed while he screams inside that echo chamber of his it's funny lol.
    Honestly I don’t think he cares that much lol
    I mean, he's over here typing Bibles on a video game forum as if he was in the UN Security Council so idk about that lol.
  • TheMostHated1TheMostHated1 Member Posts: 181
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    As I have said on other threads were especially 2 certain trolls have been baiting for hate, I think it’s totally fine to enjoy a champ that isn’t too powerful. Like the Kamala Khan guy and enjoying her or others like the Daredevil (HK) guy and the psychoman guy. All those enjoy their characters and would tell you how strong and fun they are. Same as Solvarch, despite his obvious weaknesses, I personally really enjoy him and think he’s really strong with his utility and tankiness. Would I like a tune-up? Definitely! Is he still fine as he is and not completely useless, causing me to hate for days on the forums because I overestimate him and took him to r4? Yeah, he’s still a fine champ. And that’s that.

    And there's always that one guy who takes every single bait and turns the simplest post into a battlefield. No idea why its so hard to just not engage with such established trolls, guess some people have all the time in the world with not much else to do. Keep up with your feud guys, let's shut down this thread as well all because of your personal issues!
    Bro farming even more disagrees and he's barely been here four days 💀
    Weren't you studying to become like a preschool teacher, nurse or whatever at an age where most people have already graduated? Why not focus a bit on paying the rent over some random mobile gaming forum since you clearly can't do both at the same time? Mid 20s and still didn't graduate from a piss-easy program but dares to run his mouth here all day long. Maybe its time you work on your future than your karma on a gaming forum? Feel free to give it a try lol.
    I actually graduated as a nurse a while ago and I already have a job with a good enough pay so I don't have to worry about paying rent and spending on this game at the same time. What's crazy tho is I mentioned what I do for a living right after the HoF event, not recently, and you joined forums five days ago correct? Imagine how much of an insecure neckbeard you have to be that you not only created a new account but you're stalking someone on a video game forum for this long. You should take your own advice and do something with your life before mommy and daddy kick you out, basement can only get you so far💀
    I didn't know getting a nursing degree was such a struggle for some people, no need to get mad at me for being an illiterate loser with an unsuccesful academic life lol. Also dw, I'm not stalking anyone especially such middle class people of zero worth like you. I saw a comment months ago and today I replied with that knowledge, if you consider that stalking then I can see why a nursing degree took so long for you :) Again, we're worlds apart on most aspects of life that I wouldn't expect you to understand anything I said as you made clear that you're often unable to comprehend the simplest stuff. You're gonna keep getting trolled on the internet with your lack of braincells but believe me when I say that that is not your primary concern here haha. Just imagine if all those countless hours arguing on a mobile gaming forum and getting trolled -because you're that gullible- could have been focused on your studies and maybe then you wouldn't have been struggling for an eternity over a nursing degree lol. How unfortunate when a mobile gaming forum is the only place you can have an ego, must suck when nobody irl cares about your opinions as much as in here 😞
    You saw a comment months ago but your account was created five days ago? 🤔 Anyways I ain't reading all that I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.
    Haha why type like you won't read and then edit to respond to a portion of what I wrote? I mean it when I say that you're just a gullible, useful idiot. Maybe I misjudged, completing a 4 year nursing program in your middle 20s seems actually impressive from you 🤣
    If you two don’t stop the insulting, Kabam’s gonna close this thread soon

    Anyways, we’re getting off topic here
    Gang, I’m surprised this thread has even lasted this long💀🙏🏽
    Probably because the mods haven’t seen the thread yet
    Fair
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,415 ★★★★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Especially considering that the actual rebalancing changes come after a year at least
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,557 ★★★★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    If he wasn't going to have a mechanic to make up for not critting, why does he have a crit rating and a crit damage rating that are more than the minimum?
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44
    edited August 10

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Maybe we can hide our vile comments if we act like nothing happened and move on to the next page? Like the good and bad guy settles their differences and work together to save the world? I'm down!

    Now back to the topic, I'm personally quite confused as well with the can't crit ability of techs getting more common with something else in place to compensate for the damage loss. Most techs of that sort either inflicted a DoT instead or had something unique like Shocker armor penetration increase. Not sure why but I think Maker doesn't have anything to replace the crits either, nor does Solvarch. The ability can be beneficial by itself against crit punishing champions but just leads to lack of damage in every other scenario. Not sure what the thought process behind that is, champions like Guillotine99 and Prowler get through stuff that punish crits perfectly fine while maintaining their intended damage. Just weird that the latest releases don't have a replacement for some reason. Feels like something missing for sure.
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 484 ★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Maybe we can hide our vile comments if we act like nothing happened and move on to the next page? Like the good and bad guy settles their differences and work together to save the world? I'm down!

    Now back to the topic, I'm personally quite confused as well with the can't crit ability of techs getting more common with something else in place to compensate for the damage loss. Most techs of that sort either inflicted a DoT instead or had something unique like Shocker armor penetration increase. Not sure why but I think Maker doesn't have anything to replace the crits either, nor does Solvarch. The ability can be beneficial by itself against crit punishing champions but just leads to lack of damage in every other scenario. Not sure what the thought process behind that is, champions like Guillotine99 and Prowler get through stuff that punish crits perfectly fine while maintaining their intended damage. Just weird that the latest releases don't have a replacement for some reason. Feels like something missing for sure.
    Maker have a plasma based on his crit damage on his heavy and thats It, If was also in all his specials would be more would be more noticeable since one of his problems is the reliance in the mine for damage

    The solo character who doesn't have a replacement by any form is Solvarch,like i mentioned could be armor penetration based on his crit rating and attack rating increase based on crit damage rating, 14% crit chance and 201% crit damage

    @BigPoppaCBONE Don't know if they had in mind to add the mechanic but cut last second or something,it was just a bad idea in general
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,557 ★★★★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Maybe we can hide our vile comments if we act like nothing happened and move on to the next page? Like the good and bad guy settles their differences and work together to save the world? I'm down!

    Now back to the topic, I'm personally quite confused as well with the can't crit ability of techs getting more common with something else in place to compensate for the damage loss. Most techs of that sort either inflicted a DoT instead or had something unique like Shocker armor penetration increase. Not sure why but I think Maker doesn't have anything to replace the crits either, nor does Solvarch. The ability can be beneficial by itself against crit punishing champions but just leads to lack of damage in every other scenario. Not sure what the thought process behind that is, champions like Guillotine99 and Prowler get through stuff that punish crits perfectly fine while maintaining their intended damage. Just weird that the latest releases don't have a replacement for some reason. Feels like something missing for sure.
    The Maker gets a pass because of the instant Plasmas on his heavy and his Plasma mine, and both of those damages scale with his crit damage multiplier, and he can also power them up with his own Instants Siphon pre-fight.
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 484 ★★
    edited August 10
    EdisonLaw said:

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Especially considering that the actual rebalancing changes come after a year at least


    the next rebalance was Jean and Bastion and neither need changes,spider woman Luminatrix even less, Nico and the Sun girl also don't need soo only Maker,High Evo and Solvarch remain as necessary tune ups

    but at this point i don't expect them to get buffed even if they only need like 4-6 changes in general
  • WhisperDARKWhisperDARK Member Posts: 44

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Maybe we can hide our vile comments if we act like nothing happened and move on to the next page? Like the good and bad guy settles their differences and work together to save the world? I'm down!

    Now back to the topic, I'm personally quite confused as well with the can't crit ability of techs getting more common with something else in place to compensate for the damage loss. Most techs of that sort either inflicted a DoT instead or had something unique like Shocker armor penetration increase. Not sure why but I think Maker doesn't have anything to replace the crits either, nor does Solvarch. The ability can be beneficial by itself against crit punishing champions but just leads to lack of damage in every other scenario. Not sure what the thought process behind that is, champions like Guillotine99 and Prowler get through stuff that punish crits perfectly fine while maintaining their intended damage. Just weird that the latest releases don't have a replacement for some reason. Feels like something missing for sure.
    The Maker gets a pass because of the instant Plasmas on his heavy and his Plasma mine, and both of those damages scale with his crit damage multiplier, and he can also power them up with his own Instants Siphon pre-fight.
    I see. Honestly I believe that Crossbones has one of the most ideal crit replacements in the game since he gets furies with critical hits and those furies get their potency increased with critical damage rating. I think Prowler also has a similar thing going for him where his crits are rupture passives and their damage also scales with critical damage rating. That's more so my point here, I prefer when champions that can't land critical hits get the perks of precisions and cruelties just as well as anyone. I'm fine if not both are compensated simultaneously but it doesn't make much sense when a champion benefits from neither of these stats like Solvarch. And it gets even funnier for him to have some decent critical rating and critical damage rating stats when he benefits from none.
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 484 ★★

    His basic damage is terrible. Every other champ that doesn't crit has something to make a difference there.

    I tried Solvarch r3 in the common bad matchup of Winter Soldier and compared him against Guardian r3, G2099 r1, FalCap r1, Jack r4, and Prowler r1.

    I didn't have all year, so I just compared Mediums.

    Solv - 1854
    Jack - 2633
    Guardian - 1960
    G2099 - 1412 at no combo
    Prowler - 1183

    The others all do something useful to make up for not critting, and Solvarch has his weak Coldsnap. I can get a semi-cooperative Winter Soldier down in less than 90 seconds with r3 Solvarch doing Parry, MM to 3 "bars", GG striker, SP1, SP3. Cleanup. I'm sure there's something optimal after the SP3, but I don't know what it is, so the Cleanup could be optimized to take off more time. Not super impressive, but it is a terrible matchup.

    The worst is that they won't buff him even after he goes to the base pool,even if they annouce it will take months to happen

    It was just give Shocker Mechanic and make the crit rating boost your attack rating ,there would still be some problems but damage wise this could have helped and kept consistency between Non crit techs
    Maybe we can hide our vile comments if we act like nothing happened and move on to the next page? Like the good and bad guy settles their differences and work together to save the world? I'm down!

    Now back to the topic, I'm personally quite confused as well with the can't crit ability of techs getting more common with something else in place to compensate for the damage loss. Most techs of that sort either inflicted a DoT instead or had something unique like Shocker armor penetration increase. Not sure why but I think Maker doesn't have anything to replace the crits either, nor does Solvarch. The ability can be beneficial by itself against crit punishing champions but just leads to lack of damage in every other scenario. Not sure what the thought process behind that is, champions like Guillotine99 and Prowler get through stuff that punish crits perfectly fine while maintaining their intended damage. Just weird that the latest releases don't have a replacement for some reason. Feels like something missing for sure.
    The Maker gets a pass because of the instant Plasmas on his heavy and his Plasma mine, and both of those damages scale with his crit damage multiplier, and he can also power them up with his own Instants Siphon pre-fight.
    I see. Honestly I believe that Crossbones has one of the most ideal crit replacements in the game since he gets furies with critical hits and those furies get their potency increased with critical damage rating. I think Prowler also has a similar thing going for him where his crits are rupture passives and their damage also scales with critical damage rating. That's more so my point here, I prefer when champions that can't land critical hits get the perks of precisions and cruelties just as well as anyone. I'm fine if not both are compensated simultaneously but it doesn't make much sense when a champion benefits from neither of these stats like Solvarch. And it gets even funnier for him to have some decent critical rating and critical damage rating stats when he benefits from none.

    @ItsClobberinTime You 100% care about all the arguing… your actions show it. Doesn’t matter if you sayyyy you don’t if your actions don’t show it. 💀 & calling me a narcissist proves that you have no idea what narcissism is. 🤧

    But you know what… since you’re so upset about it… and i’m such a nice, caring guy…….
    Let me know your exact rotation that makes Solvarch seem decent in your eyes and i’ll actually go and test it out and let you know if it changes my mind or not. So just SP1 and SP3?

    Go watch the video I posted? It has multiple rotations that give him decent enough damage to deal with the current problematic meta defenders. He literally takes all current meta relevant mutants, Zola, Spider Woman and Bullseye in under a minute what else do you want? You keep glazing Patriot every single day but this is trash? Patriot is literally ass for anyone that isn't Photon.

    Anyways, you build to three bars and while at 100 core charges you throw sp1 to get 5 energize then do mm mlllm while they're stunned and sp3 immediately. If a r1 is getting 240k damage in one rotation then a r3 should be close to ko WS with one, if he doesn't you're doing something wrong and just to prove that I will r3 mine before Bastion so you can finally stop complaining and spreading misinformation.
    Used this exact rotation I mentioned on a non energy non mutant matchup and the sp3 was 138k in total for a r1 Solvarch:



    Total damage was 235k, how is 235k damage for a r1 bad? Sure he isn't the fastest I won't argue that, but he can easily punch same rank defenders including non mutant non energy ones like Bullseye in roughly 50-55 secs. Doesn't mean he's insane but he's not trash at all, or mid especially when you think someone like Patriot is top tier lol.
    Tried special damage stat focus previously and the total sp3 damage was 138k, you think it'd be better than armor penetration but I tried it with armor penetration right now and the sp3 damage went from 138k to 151k



    So it seems armor penetration is definitely the way to go with him, again this is r1 Solvarch. I'll be taking him to r4 after Crucible to see what he can really do.
    What is the Armor penetration % of his stat focus?
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