Would you be interested in a subscription-based service?

addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
edited February 2018 in General Discussion
If Kabam were to offer a $9.99 a month subscription that would allow you to do things like pick your own avatar and also give you bonus items when opening crystals that you wouldn't normally receive (like an extra 750 T4 Basics on an Uncollected Daily Crystal, or a bonus 55 4* shards on a dupe, etc), would you do it? I only ask because I've seen this done well in a few other games, and it's been pretty helpful.

Would you be interested in a subscription-based service? 97 votes

YES
16%
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NO
55%
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MAYBE - I'd really have to feel like my $10 was money well-spent
27%
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  • Vision_41Vision_41 Posts: 721
    But they do? The Daily Cards are the "subscriptions"
  • GotszbotGotszbot Posts: 140
    Why bother when people can buy units for 5$ to attempt to kill that lastboss
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
    YES
    Vision_41 wrote: »
    But they do? The Daily Cards are the "subscriptions"

    Yeah, but those are not a regular monthly thing, and are specific to one type of item...

    The idea I'm talking about would be you pay a certain amount of money every month, and you get a little extra with everything you do.

    A good example of how this is handled is the subscription-based VIP membership you can do on "Into the Dead 2."

    Every time you open a chest, you get some bonus items that other people don't get, who aren't subscribing.

    So instead of only getting an L1 Alliance Potion with a loyalty crystal, you'd get an L1 potion and 50 PHC crystals or something.
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
    YES
    Another cool subscription possibility would be to increase the daily energy cap from 70 to 100 for subscribers... stuff like that.
  • SpiritOfVengeanceSpiritOfVengeance Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    NO
    No not the energy that has to be earned through levelling up when they end up adding more levels.
  • Vegeta9001_Vegeta9001_ Posts: 38
    edited February 2018
    Something not dissimilar from ESO Plus wouldn't go amiss, get a lump sum of units per month 275 most likely, along with beta access to things like the LC and Rulk guaranteed, and some other small goodies like 5x5 L5 Potions Weekly, or 5 Refills. Just small stuff that adds up, for a 9.99 pm value. Forum side you could have Premium Avatars/Bio Banners, and a premium lounge with a weeks early access to information about upcoming champs. Extra inventory space and a +10 increase to energy cap while the subscription is active would also tempt recurring members rather than a one and done.

    It wouldn't be bad, I personally wouldn't go for it but plenty would go for a Mcoc Premium Membership.
  • YES
    I get what you’re saying would be really cool like maybe extra iso with duped or bonus gold on arena crystals or something I’d sign up for autopay lol
  • HulksmasshhHulksmasshh Posts: 742 ★★★
    YES
    They got me hooked. I’m not blubberiest whale but I will buy my fair share of deals. If they can offer additional items/incentives for a long-term commitment that more than $10 would normally get me from an offer, then sign me up. $10 / month is not a lot at all when in perspective of what they value the more lucrative items in this game.
  • YES
    Yes, I would like it but it needs to be something worthwhile.
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
    YES
    Something not dissimilar from ESO Plus wouldn't go amiss, get a lump sum of units per month 275 most likely, along with beta access to things like the LC and Rulk guaranteed, and some other small goodies like 5x5 L5 Potions Weekly, or 5 Refills. Just small stuff that adds up, for a 9.99 pm value. Forum side you could have Premium Avatars/Bio Banners, and a premium lounge with a weeks early access to information about upcoming champs. Extra inventory space and a +10 increase to energy cap while the subscription is active would also tempt recurring members rather than a one and done.

    It wouldn't be bad, I personally wouldn't go for it but plenty would go for a Mcoc Premium Membership.

    Yes, exactly... you explained some appealing options much better than I did.
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    The problem with this idea is that you are trusting Kabam not to slowly squeeze out non subscribers and indirectly force them to become subscribers by subtly increasing the benefits for subscribers and decreasing standard rewards and content over time for everyone else. You’re putting way too much faith in Kabam making fair and reasonable decisions and not looking at the dollar signs. You’d be giving them an incentive to try to get as many people on the subscription model as possible because, as it stands, they have two classes of players; whales(who will continue to spend subscription or not) and free-to-players(who try not to spend) so Kabam really only sees one revenue stream from those two classes. If you give Kabam an incentive to collect from two revenue streams by making it nearly impossible for free-to-players to progress and enjoy playing the game without subscribing, they’ll do it. If you don’t think Kabam would take this approach you haven’t been playing the game very long.
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
    YES
    Bryman187 wrote: »
    The problem with this idea is that you are trusting Kabam not to slowly squeeze out non subscribers and indirectly force them to become subscribers by subtly increasing the benefits for subscribers and decreasing standard rewards and content over time for everyone else. You’re putting way too much faith in Kabam making fair and reasonable decisions and not looking at the dollar signs. You’d be giving them an incentive to try to get as many people on the subscription model as possible because, as it stands, they have two classes of players; whales(who will continue to spend subscription or not) and free-to-players(who try not to spend) so Kabam really only sees one revenue stream from those two classes. If you give Kabam an incentive to collect from two revenue streams by making it nearly impossible for free-to-players to progress and enjoy playing the game without subscribing, they’ll do it. If you don’t think Kabam would take this approach you haven’t been playing the game very long.
    I don't trust anyone, especially big business.

    That said, I was inquiring in a more hypothetical "perfect world" scenario.

    The idea is that everything would remain exactly as it is now for non-subscribers... so, if you don't subscribe, your progression stays the same.

    Subscribers get a little boost... maybe $25 worth of extra goodies for a a guaranteed $10 to Kabam.

    Maybe even something that doesn't have anything to do with progression... like the ability to choose your own avatar, regardless of your top-champ.

    Just having a discussion... not trying to ruffle any feathers or put any F2P people on the defensive.
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    Bryman187 wrote: »
    The problem with this idea is that you are trusting Kabam not to slowly squeeze out non subscribers and indirectly force them to become subscribers by subtly increasing the benefits for subscribers and decreasing standard rewards and content over time for everyone else. You’re putting way too much faith in Kabam making fair and reasonable decisions and not looking at the dollar signs. You’d be giving them an incentive to try to get as many people on the subscription model as possible because, as it stands, they have two classes of players; whales(who will continue to spend subscription or not) and free-to-players(who try not to spend) so Kabam really only sees one revenue stream from those two classes. If you give Kabam an incentive to collect from two revenue streams by making it nearly impossible for free-to-players to progress and enjoy playing the game without subscribing, they’ll do it. If you don’t think Kabam would take this approach you haven’t been playing the game very long.
    I don't trust anyone, especially big business.

    That said, I was inquiring in a more hypothetical "perfect world" scenario.

    The idea is that everything would remain exactly as it is now for non-subscribers... so, if you don't subscribe, your progression stays the same.

    Subscribers get a little boost... maybe $25 worth of extra goodies for a a guaranteed $10 to Kabam.

    Maybe even something that doesn't have anything to do with progression... like the ability to choose your own avatar, regardless of your top-champ.

    Just having a discussion... not trying to ruffle any feathers or put any F2P people on the defensive.

    My feathers aren’t roughled, I just don’t want to give them any ideas lol. In a perfect idealistic world, yes a subscription model could be intriguing, but unfortunately Kabam’s world is far from perfect so positing this idea is vaguely destructive only in that I personally don’t foresee something like this working out so I’d hate to give Kabam any reason to consider it. But I’m sure they’ve already considered this option and ruled it out as non viable so I’m probably being too paranoid. Anyway, continue on with your poll. I didn’t necessarily mean to try to shut down your idea, it just worries me.
  • BUZZdog3000BUZZdog3000 Posts: 447 ★★
    NO
    pay to win is a no no
  • ShrimkinsShrimkins Posts: 1,320 ★★★★
    MAYBE - I'd really have to feel like my $10 was money well-spent
    I've done this "VIP" subscription thing in other games before so I'm not against the idea, but it really has to be worth it.
  • VimesVonlipVimesVonlip Posts: 172
    NO
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.
  • ShrimkinsShrimkins Posts: 1,320 ★★★★
    MAYBE - I'd really have to feel like my $10 was money well-spent
    pay to win is a no no

    In other games I've played it was never really a P2W thing. It was mostly convenience stuff and/or things that give a minor advantage.

    In MCoC it could be expanded inventories, faster cool downs on arena champs, claiming free crystals every 2 hours instead of 4, ect, ect.

    Plus let's not kid ourselves here. This game is already p2w. So why not offer some services at a more reasonable price?
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    I was in the middle of writing a very well thought out, well articulated point on your thread when they deleted it. Irritating lol. They could have just closed it and not deleted it so people could at least read it.
  • GbSarkarGbSarkar Posts: 1,075 ★★★
    NO
    Shrimkins wrote: »
    In MCoC it could be expanded inventories, faster cool downs on arena champs

    Those are huge advantages
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    Shrimkins wrote: »
    pay to win is a no no

    In other games I've played it was never really a P2W thing. It was mostly convenience stuff and/or things that give a minor advantage.

    In MCoC it could be expanded inventories, faster cool downs on arena champs, claiming free crystals every 2 hours instead of 4, ect, ect.

    Plus let's not kid ourselves here. This game is already p2w. So why not offer some services at a more reasonable price?

    It could also be more shards, faster energy refills, more content, free monthly gifts etc. Not sure why anyone who’s been playing this game for any length of time would assume Kabam would do the fair and reasonable thing if given an option.
  • Vdh2008Vdh2008 Posts: 913 ★★★★
    YES
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    Your poll was idiotic and they've already addressed that sentiment numerous times by telling us the teams are completely different.

  • MMCskippyMMCskippy Posts: 320 ★★
    Marvel Puzzle Quest's VIP program speeds up the rate of your progression and heals your champs faster. Something along those lines would be cool.
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    edited February 2018
    Vdh2008 wrote: »
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    Your poll was idiotic and they've already addressed that sentiment numerous times by telling us the teams are completely different.

    Why was his poll idiotic and what teams are completely different? Be more specific.
  • VimesVonlipVimesVonlip Posts: 172
    edited February 2018
    NO
    Bryman187 wrote: »
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    I was in the middle of writing a very well thought out, well articulated point on your thread when they deleted it. Irritating lol. They could have just closed it and not deleted it so people could at least read it.

    Yeah. I'm not a fan of silencing criticism but Kabam have proven themselves to be shady AF by not perma banning the guys that were using CC fraud to get cheaper credits.

  • VimesVonlipVimesVonlip Posts: 172
    NO
    Vdh2008 wrote: »
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    Your poll was idiotic and they've already addressed that sentiment numerous times by telling us the teams are completely different.

    What teams? What are you even talking about? Get of the crack pipe and make sense.
  • Vdh2008Vdh2008 Posts: 913 ★★★★
    YES
    Vdh2008 wrote: »
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    Your poll was idiotic and they've already addressed that sentiment numerous times by telling us the teams are completely different.

    What teams? What are you even talking about? Get of the crack pipe and make sense.

    You poll, if I'm not mistaken, said Kabam should NOT release new content and champs, but "fix the bugs" instead.

    The teams that create content and champs are different than the teams that "fix the bugs" in most cases. This has been stated numerous times in the forum by the moderators in response to the sentiment you expressed.

    If I am incorrect in my assessment of your poll sentiment, I apologize. But if I am correct, it was idiotic and has been answered.
  • Brew_SwayneBrew_Swayne Posts: 487 ★★
    I don't spend much money on this game (about $100 in nearly 2.5 years) so I'm already not spending $10/month on this game, but if I did spend that much, a subscription of some sort might interest me. My spending averages out to about $3/mo. Put a $3 subscription out there and maybe I sign up for it. Or maybe I don't. Probably not. But I might. Maybe.

    Not a bad suggestion though.
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    Vdh2008 wrote: »
    Vdh2008 wrote: »
    Hmmm, this poll is about something that could potentially make Kabam more money so it'll get to stay around but the poll i posted calling them out on their BS and how they should delay new content until the can fix the current issues gets deleted. Screw Kabam and their nonsense.

    Your poll was idiotic and they've already addressed that sentiment numerous times by telling us the teams are completely different.

    What teams? What are you even talking about? Get of the crack pipe and make sense.

    You poll, if I'm not mistaken, said Kabam should NOT release new content and champs, but "fix the bugs" instead.

    The teams that create content and champs are different than the teams that "fix the bugs" in most cases. This has been stated numerous times in the forum by the moderators in response to the sentiment you expressed.

    If I am incorrect in my assessment of your poll sentiment, I apologize. But if I am correct, it was idiotic and has been answered.

    Even if that is the way Kabam’s teams operate the sentiment of his poll was still valid. If the content development team is different than the bug fixing team than that needs to be rectified and those two teams should be working in a cycle of QA before an app is realeased not after a bad build brakes the app. If the sentiment of the poll was “ should Kabam focus on making the game more stable before focusing on releasing new content” (which is what I took away from it) than the poll was entirely valid and useful.
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 504 ★★★
    YES
    Shrimkins wrote: »
    In MCoC it could be expanded inventories, faster cool downs on arena champs, claiming free crystals every 2 hours instead of 4, ect, ect.
    I agree with everything else you said, but any program like this would have to be related to questing... any arena or alliance activities would have to be excluded, so subs wouldn't have an unfair advantage over non-subs.

    So, faster cool-downs wouldn't work... neither would any bonus alliance related items or crystals, etc.
  • Bryman187Bryman187 Posts: 204
    edited February 2018
    Shrimkins wrote: »
    In MCoC it could be expanded inventories, faster cool downs on arena champs, claiming free crystals every 2 hours instead of 4, ect, ect.
    I agree with everything else you said, but any program like this would have to be related to questing... any arena or alliance activities would have to be excluded, so subs wouldn't have an unfair advantage over non-subs.

    So, faster cool-downs wouldn't work... neither would any bonus alliance related items or crystals, etc.

    Being able to complete high reward yielding, high energy requiring difficult questing content faster than non subs is a pretty big advantage. You’re enabling some folks to build strong rosters by gaining rewards faster than others by paying for the sub on top of paying per need for additional items through the store. That’s basically still p2w.
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