**WINTER OF WOE - BONUS OBJECTIVE POINT**
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I paid 10 bucks and got nothing.

VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
edited March 2018 in Suggestions and Requests
I recently purchased a crystal pack order #3389-9220-0570-91565 giving me 5 crystals and didn't receive a single 3 star. Funny thing is my girl did too right next to me with the same result. So out of 10 no 3 or 4? Not one? You would think even with that many one would at least be diff? So how rare is it exactly? Because if I can be blunt that is bull. There no way that I shouldnt have at least got a 3. Or her. But neither of us got anything worth a ****. I'm in the 40s as a summoner. For 10 bucks I got this ****? What am I going to do with a bunch of 2 stars? I want my money back or something better. I didn't sell or use anything I bought.
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  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Posts: 1,377 ★★★★
    That’s the risk you take with crystals. I’m sorry you didn’t get what you wanted from it, but it clearly states guaranteed 2* with a rare chance at 3 and 4*s. There are no guarantees you’ll get something good, regardless of the money involved. Hope your next crystals have a better outcome.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    edited March 2018
    No that is a no chance... Out of 10 draws if there is any real chance I would have got one that was diff or her. The fact that NEITHER of us got anything different means that you don't even have a one in 10 chance there so called "rare" chance should be a little more reasonable since I am paying for it. I can get all this **** for free. I think the drop rate should be better if your paying.
  • KynnyKynny Posts: 104
    1/10 I snt rare..the odds are like 2/100.
  • DizzyDizzy Posts: 236 ★★
    Not to be math-y about it, but let's assume the drop rates for a 3* are 90% (which I don't think they are).

    That means that for every 10 crystals, there is a 35% chance that you get only 2* champs. That's not much worse than a coin toss, and it's what you saw today.

    Your logic is essentially like saying "I flipped two coins and got heads twice. There's no way the odds of tails are 50%."

    If it makes you feel better, I spent $30 today and got all 3* trash. But such is life, and it's a (painful) reminder to not overspend on champions.

  • shchong2shchong2 Posts: 2,419 ★★★★
    Sorry to hear that, it is really down to RNG and luck. I know my luck isn't blessed by RNG God, that's why I won't bother to buy any of those anymore.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,193 ★★★★★
    It's a rare chance. No guarantee. I bought it and got 2*s as well. One of my guys got 4* Setinel. They roll how they roll. Last time I rolled a 3* Hulk Rags. You win some, you lose some.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    yeah but I get a FREE premium and auto open getting a 3* iron patriot.... Out of 10 I get only 35% chance? That's not what I would say rare... That's more like ultra rare and the same thing happens to my girl... That just seems a little fantastical... More like it's a rigged software program look hos it stops on then suddenly skips that awesome 4* mudsa to a dumb 2*iron fist... Always him.... What about those odds?
  • JaffacakedJaffacaked Posts: 1,415 ★★★★
    If you an your girl went to a casino an both bet on number 36 on roulette an didn't win, would you cry like a baby an demand a refund from the casino ?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,193 ★★★★★
    Voodoo wrote: »
    yeah but I get a FREE premium and auto open getting a 3* iron patriot.... Out of 10 I get only 35% chance? That's not what I would say rare... That's more like ultra rare and the same thing happens to my girl... That just seems a little fantastical... More like it's a rigged software program look hos it stops on then suddenly skips that awesome 4* mudsa to a dumb 2*iron fist... Always him.... What about those odds?

    Where are you getting 35% from? In those Crystals, the 2*s are the greatest possibility. 4*s are rare. 4* Featured is more rare, but an increased chance at the 4* being a Featured. I don't know where you're gathering that math from.
  • Cujo999Cujo999 Posts: 117
    Voodoo wrote: »
    yeah but I get a FREE premium and auto open getting a 3* iron patriot.... Out of 10 I get only 35% chance? That's not what I would say rare... That's more like ultra rare and the same thing happens to my girl... That just seems a little fantastical... More like it's a rigged software program look hos it stops on then suddenly skips that awesome 4* mudsa to a dumb 2*iron fist... Always him.... What about those odds?

    What are the odds of me pulling a 4* Bishop, 3* Bishop, and 3* War Machine out of 3 crystals? Bad pulls doesn't mean rigged anymore than good pulls.
  • VuskaVuska Posts: 175
    Dont buy anything unless they promise you that minimum prize is *4. Never..
  • MasterFlintMasterFlint Posts: 97
    Dizzy wrote: »
    Not to be math-y about it, but let's assume the drop rates for a 3* are 90% (which I don't think they are).

    That means that for every 10 crystals, there is a 35% chance that you get only 2* champs. That's not much worse than a coin toss, and it's what you saw today.

    Your Math is wrong. If the drop rate for a 3* is 90%, assuming independence, the odds that out of 10 crystals you only get 2*'s is: (0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1)*(0.1) = 0.0000000001

    Which means you would have a 99.99999999 % chance to get at least one 3* out of 10.

  • TurbulentUrFaceTurbulentUrFace Posts: 311
    Sorry mate but that happens to everyone. The crystals have a really low chance of dropping 3 and 4* champs. That's pretty normal.
  • DiablosUltimateDiablosUltimate Posts: 1,021 ★★★
    Try "I paid 10 bucks and I learned a lesson" instead
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    That's real nice dude had nothing to do what we are talking about your comparison is equal to comparing a two by four to a dog. Your 65$ went to a movie and got what you paid for we all know what we get when we pay fir movies so that was a kinda ignorant comparison. So anyway the 35% chance I was told by someone else and I was going by that. Point is I feel if we pay we should get better odds
  • Voodoo wrote: »
    No that is a no chance... Out of 10 draws if there is any real chance I would have got one that was diff or her. The fact that NEITHER of us got anything different means that you don't even have a one in 10 chance there so called "rare" chance should be a little more reasonable since I am paying for it. I can get all this **** for free. I think the drop rate should be better if your paying.

    You're acting like a little kid. Just cause you paid doesn't mean you get a guaranteed 4* champ. That's why lots of people are F2P. I've gotten like 16 4*'s in 1 year, and I haven't spent a single dime on the game.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    And if you arguing this point to me you are a bot. No hunan will argue that if you pay money you ought to get something that is not given free...if it's a 2/200 chance then it should be like 2/100 if you pay. Something. It's not about math or any of that. It's about IF YOU PAY YOU SHOULD GET A BETTER CHANCE. BY THE WAY THE COIN TOSS? IT NOT ESSENTIALLY TWO COIN TOSSES BECAUSE I BOUGHT 10 CRYSTALS.... SO IF I FLIPPED A COIN ITS 50/50 REGARDLESS THE NUMBER OF TIMES I FLIP IT ANOTHER HORRIBLE COMPARISON. YOU HAVE LIKE A 5% CHANCE. NOT ONLY THAT MY GIRL DID IT RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND GOT THE SAME RESULTS!!!!
  • spooderman123spooderman123 Posts: 53
    edited March 2018
    Voodoo wrote: »
    And if you arguing this point to me you are a bot. No hunan will argue that if you pay money you ought to get something that is not given free...if it's a 2/200 chance then it should be like 2/100 if you pay. Something. It's not about math or any of that. It's about IF YOU PAY YOU SHOULD GET A BETTER CHANCE. BY THE WAY THE COIN TOSS? IT NOT ESSENTIALLY TWO COIN TOSSES BECAUSE I BOUGHT 10 CRYSTALS.... SO IF I FLIPPED A COIN ITS 50/50 REGARDLESS THE NUMBER OF TIMES I FLIP IT ANOTHER HORRIBLE COMPARISON. YOU HAVE LIKE A 5% CHANCE. NOT ONLY THAT MY GIRL DID IT RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND GOT THE SAME RESULTS!!!!

    triggered. stop using caps lol
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    edited March 2018
    Lol hey spooderman you're right ...heh he I git triggers.
  • Voodoo wrote: »
    Lol hey spooderman you're right ...heh he I git triggers.

    Go do an extra shift and work for that 10$ you lost. Now you can shut up.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    edited March 2018
    Well Go do an extra shift and work for that 10$ you lost. Now you can shut up. I am a kid but that's besides the point... I have paid several tine and hardly ever get ****. Don't come on here and bash me spooderman BC I'm upset at unfairness. That's not right of you
  • spooderman123spooderman123 Posts: 53
    edited March 2018
    Voodoo wrote: »
    Well maybe I am a kid but that's besides the point... I have paid several tine and hardly ever get ****. Don't come on here and bash me spooderman BC I'm upset at unfairness. That's not right of you

    I'm a kid too and yet I got a 4* Stark Enchanced, 4* Voodoo, and 4* OG Daredevil all 4/40, yet I have played for a year and didn't spend a single dime. Work for it and it'll pay off.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    You are making my point... If I had the same chance to get that.. I have been playing this game for over a year and the only way I've gotten anything is I payed. Go look at rampug that's me... Anything special on there like you got I had to buy.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    It's a software that is not truly random it's selective.
  • VoodooVoodoo Posts: 21
    edited March 2018
    By the way did he insult your moma spooderman? Because you insulted my kid... So now I ask you are you a part of this game? How about you shut up? This forum is here for people to come vent. Who are you to cone in here and tell someone to shut up? That 10$ was alot to him because that was hid whole allowance . Who's money did you spend? Your moms, you little stuck up snob. It's not about the money it's the principle of the matter. My boy is saying that he feels that if he spends his money on it he should have better odds. Now who really thinks that this boy shouldn't have at least got ONE thing out of what he bought? Learn his lesson? What was the lesson? Ohhhh some we should all take lesson and all never spend a dine on this game again? Hmmm. I wonder who would learn the lesson then? If odds are low it's one thing but when you pay and they are phenomenally low is another. This is not a casino. I could careless honestly because I don't play this ****. It's for kids. He lernt that things like this are rip offs and hell never buy like that again that's the lesson.
  • Quicksilver44Quicksilver44 Posts: 59
    edited March 2018
    @Voodoo hahahahahahahahahaha

    You got KABAMED!!!!!!

    I hope you 1st 5 star to be Kamala Khan!

    It was YOUR choice to buy the crystals! The crystals have a CHANCE to 3 star and 4 star champions, they are not guarantee 4 star heroes!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are a loser if you buy from KABAM!!!!!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,193 ★★★★★
    This is turning into insults. To clarify, I understand you're upset, but the Forum is not for venting. It's to discuss the game. It's here for Players and Staff both to interact. Which means others will comment. Mind you, it should be constructive. It's not for anyone to presume to tell you what to do with your children, but the game is Rated Teen. Which means you assume responsibility when allowing your children to play. The Crystals are not guarantees. Nor are they Casino Gambling. You try for a CHANCE. That much is stated. As for other people making it personal, there's no need for that. What we're trying to say is it's common knowledge that the drops are rare in these cases, and that can be discovered by communicating with Players on the Forum. It's entirely up to you whether you spend again or not, but no one is entitled to anything when they take their own chances.
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