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Ant-Man Buff Request

Savio444Savio444 Posts: 1,781 ★★★★
edited March 2018 in Suggestions and Requests
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20000 5* shards worth of a champ, just sitting there pls pls pls, make him good!!
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  • imnooneimnoone Posts: 316 ★★
    (*facepalm*) ..
    Pls pls pls buff all of the champion in MCOC because someone somewhere has him/her as 5*duped ..
  • Savio444Savio444 Posts: 1,781 ★★★★
    imnoone wrote: »
    (*facepalm*) ..
    Pls pls pls buff all of the champion in MCOC because someone somewhere has him/her as 5*duped ..

    They fixed luke cage and red hulk, no harm in asking
  • imnooneimnoone Posts: 316 ★★
    Savio444 wrote: »
    imnoone wrote: »
    (*facepalm*) ..
    Pls pls pls buff all of the champion in MCOC because someone somewhere has him/her as 5*duped ..

    They fixed luke cage and red hulk, no harm in asking

    They did that at their discretion not because we asked them. They are aware of the problem and just because a player duped and beg them is not gonna change anything.
  • Savio444Savio444 Posts: 1,781 ★★★★
    imnoone wrote: »
    Savio444 wrote: »
    imnoone wrote: »
    (*facepalm*) ..
    Pls pls pls buff all of the champion in MCOC because someone somewhere has him/her as 5*duped ..

    They fixed luke cage and red hulk, no harm in asking

    They did that at their discretion not because we asked them. They are aware of the problem and just because a player duped and beg them is not gonna change anything.

    Again...no harm in asking
  • Brew_SwayneBrew_Swayne Posts: 500 ★★
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.
  • NikoBravoNikoBravo Posts: 447 ★★★
    Instant r4!
  • Savio444Savio444 Posts: 1,781 ★★★★
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    I like antman and want to use him, I’ll take a slight adjustment. Better than nothing.
  • Brew_SwayneBrew_Swayne Posts: 500 ★★
    He makes a half decent defender option in war on all or nothing nodes if he's high sig. Power control champs don't work so well against him because of his glancing ability. Problem though is it's not really worth investing in a champ purely for defensive purposes, so most people tend to r3 him as a 4* and stop, which doesn't give him a tremendous amount of durability that would be need for that that node.
  • VuDahVuDah Posts: 23 ★
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    I’m confused. How was Antman a counter to WP before the nerf? If anything, Antman was useless before the nerf, unless you avoid using light attacks. The WP nerf actually made Antman better.
  • Brew_SwayneBrew_Swayne Posts: 500 ★★
    When WP was op, you could stack fatigue on your opponents and build up to s2. All those fatigue stacks would trigger more WP, which was constantly increasing their regen. Hit em with s2 and all those fatigues turned into poison and reversed healing like crazy.

    It basically worked like Guilly s2. It still does, just not as effectively since WP doesn't provide much regen.
  • KynnyKynny Posts: 104 ★
    VuDah wrote: »
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    I’m confused. How was Antman a counter to WP before the nerf? If anything, Antman was useless before the nerf, unless you avoid using light attacks. The WP nerf actually made Antman better.

    Antman was only useless if you had no idea how to.use him
  • VuDahVuDah Posts: 23 ★
    Kynny wrote: »
    VuDah wrote: »
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    I’m confused. How was Antman a counter to WP before the nerf? If anything, Antman was useless before the nerf, unless you avoid using light attacks. The WP nerf actually made Antman better.

    Antman was only useless if you had no idea how to.use him

    Actually like I said you have to avoid using light attacks...
  • KynnyKynny Posts: 104 ★
    VuDah wrote: »
    Kynny wrote: »
    VuDah wrote: »
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    I’m confused. How was Antman a counter to WP before the nerf? If anything, Antman was useless before the nerf, unless you avoid using light attacks. The WP nerf actually made Antman better.

    Antman was only useless if you had no idea how to.use him

    Actually like I said you have to avoid using light attacks...

    Nope stack em sp2 win..
  • VuDahVuDah Posts: 23 ★
    Btw Antman’s Sp2 were never able to reverse healing affect, it’ll only change fatigue into poison, which still triggers WP. The way WP worked back then is, every single poison triggers 1 WP, Unlike now, 3,4,5 poison still only trigger 1 WP
  • GwendolineGwendoline Posts: 945 ★★★
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    When WP was op, you could stack fatigue on your opponents and build up to s2. All those fatigue stacks would trigger more WP, which was constantly increasing their regen. Hit em with s2 and all those fatigues turned into poison and reversed healing like crazy.

    It basically worked like Guilly s2. It still does, just not as effectively since WP doesn't provide much regen.

    It never reversed it healing. His poison was so weak most of the time people still regened from it. Using ant man in streak 11-16 was a good way to lose your streak.
  • A_Noob_Is1A_Noob_Is1 Posts: 762 ★★
    Brew_Swayne wrote: »
    The only thing that really needs adjusted for Ant Man, imo, is his s2. He was an excellent counter to willpower back in the day when having max WP made you nearly unbeatable, but once WP got fixed (not nerfed, fixed) his S2 became pretty mediocre. Maybe a slight attack bump too, but overall there's really no need to make major changes. He doesn't need buffed as much as slightly adjusted.

    that never happened
  • MegaSkater67MegaSkater67 Posts: 1,377 ★★★★
    edited March 2018
    VuDah wrote: »
    Btw Antman’s Sp2 were never able to reverse healing affect, it’ll only change fatigue into poison, which still triggers WP. The way WP worked back then is, every single poison triggers 1 WP, Unlike now, 3,4,5 poison still only trigger 1 WP

    Not necessarily reverse it. But every stack of poison reduces the effectiveness of any kind of healing. So with a lot of poison stacks healing was hardly even noticeable and he still had the damage over time. I think antman has a good sig, would just be nice to increase his damage output or add something to his first and third specials as well. Even if they just increased his fatigue chance that would help him get more damage in with poison.
  • TurbulentUrFaceTurbulentUrFace Posts: 311 ★
    If they just bumped his damage he'd be pretty good. Problem is he just can't deal enough to be useful, even with his specials. Other than that he's not bad.
  • NOOOOOOOOPEEEEENOOOOOOOOPEEEEE Posts: 2,803 ★★★★★
    Put him on a Bleed or Bleed/Poison immune node in AW defense you should get a few KOs due to timeouts, but this would only work if he's decently ranked.
  • TheBinturongTheBinturong Posts: 8
    Antman is not a strong offensive character, but he is extremely hard to kill with those glancing blows. Since offense is much more about your mastery picks and technical skill, he can be a good character all around in the right hands. If you're whining about how bad he is... Guess who is lacking the right hands.
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    AntMan is infamously annoying as he literally shuts down offensive AAR

    Gwenpool buffs ber attacks to cancel defensive abilities but AntMan’s glancing takes priority meaning that AntMan can glance a 50+ combo Gwenpool

    Not an all star but he’s probably a good champ on a forced damage node
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