Account Sharing [Merged Threads]

In response to the most recent thing about account Sharing and saying you will be taking stricter actions, I've been talking to some of the top alliances. You do realize you will have to ban about half the people that play the game right? @Kabam Miike
I personally don't account share but I don't see anything wrong with it. Lots of people have a life and don't have time to sit in the game constantly or at the last minute in AW

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Midnightfox

Nice to see some action. What is considered egregious? So I know what to watch for.

BrutalMira

@Kabam Miike about account sharing i have 4 accounts that is my own account since the biggining of this game and i put them all in the same alliance if this acct sharing is against ToS what would i do to my acct i will separate them so that i can still play this?

LegoCrafter517

I agree with this, you'll be affecting entire alliance systems by enforcing this. Almost 75% of the player base accounts share, and to be honest, it's not to extreme. Account sharing usually occurs when some can't play at that given moment or any other circumstance. You can't punish people for wanting to play but not being able to because they have some sort of life occurrence outside of mcoc.

Markdarktooth

Thankfully we are shifting to a semi retirement alliance, but it's extremely irritating that they will crack down on this but not go to 30 minute timers. There are no good reasons to stay with the hour timers and expect people to succeed, esp when introducing harder fights in the maps that take longer and eat up more health. You have to have 30 boss killers now, and pray to your God that nobody has anyone come up and cant sign on for 2 hours, or doesn't sleep for too long, or doesn't have a job, of kids or family...

RIDICULOUS

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MarzGroove

Midnightfox wrote: »

Nice to see some action. What is considered egregious? So I know what to watch for.

egregious = extraordinary in some bad way; glaring; flagrant

Eb0ny-O-M4w

They did this tipe of warnings at least 2x times in the past already, and players are still doing the same thing and logging in other players accounts.
Hope this time this gets somehow fixed. This means ban a lot of alliances and players that are sharing accounts alkost every day, or even those players that are payed to complete ingame content

Rikurema

What if you use multiple devices? how would that work? I go from tablet, to phone, to ipod, to another tablet lol....

Vegeta9000

I hope they do clamp down on it, once in a blue moon if a family emergency comes up, but when you are being piloted every war, or every hard piece of content, i cant wait to see bans. But i can tell you now, the top alliances wont receive bans. I’ll probably get my post deleted again, but its the truth, they won’t ban their biggest spenders.

klobberintyme

LegoCrafter517 wrote: »

I agree with this, you'll be affecting entire alliance systems by enforcing this. Almost 75% of the player base accounts share, and to be honest, it's not to extreme. Account sharing usually occurs when some can't play at that given moment or any other circumstance. You can't punish people for wanting to play but not being able to because they have some sort of life occurrence outside of mcoc.

Obviously they can, it's their TOS. You can argue they shouldn't, but you can also argue that 5 star AGs should cost less than 6.8 million dust nonsense and get just as far with changing anyone's minds about the subject.

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VolumeOne

I've never shared my login details with anyone (in fact i'm heavily against it) but I feel this is basically just pushing people towards that whole "the game is feeling like it's a full time job rather than a game" if you have literally anything go on while you're running map 6 and no one can help you out you've hurt the entire alliance. Again, I've never done it but they're just going to cause more strife from players which is sad to see

Eb0ny-O-M4w

1Marve1 wrote: »

What if you use multiple devices? how would that work? I go from tablet, to phone, to ipod, to another tablet lol....

Multiple devices and multiple accounts are allowed. You just can't play on an account that doesn't belong to you

DNA3000

boss6390 wrote: »

In response to the most recent thing about account Sharing and saying you will be taking stricter actions, I've been talking to some of the top alliances. You do realize you will have to ban about half the people that play the game right? @Kabam Miike
I personally don't account share but I don't see anything wrong with it. Lots of people have a life and don't have time to sit in the game constantly or at the last minute in AW

Alliance War is a competition. If you can't log in at the right time to make the best move in AW, then you might lose. Like it or not, that is part of the competition. When you decide to make up your own rules to suit your own situation in order to better compete, that's called "cheating" and the people who bear the cost of that cheating the most are the opponents willing to play by the rules and lose to the players that don't.

If you assume, as many do, that everyone pilots or account shares, then it is not unfair to do so because everyone is doing it. But everyone isn't doing it, and allowing it is unfair to those that don't. That's what's ultimately wrong with it.

Dj_mph

What about your wife or your child’s account? As a married couple you share credit cards, bills, cars, and well everything. Also want about your child as a parent i can’t take my kids phone and play his game or log into his account from my phone to look at his in game messages? So confused what they can actually do in those situations?

Hulk_Smells

does piloting only apply to AW? how about AQ?

ShinobiVIPER

@Kabam Miike
Its all well and good, but if they start banning people that “pilot” and punish them, thats pretty much your entire player base, especially the high end alliances.

It will get to the stage where people can’t get online because they are at work or some kind of a family occasion and their officers can’t log in on their behalf. Then people will get get kicked from the alliances.

I have 2 accounts to my name under different email addresses, will this trigger them to ban me? I spend on both accounts, but if this is the case I will stick with the main.

This not good for the player base, it will crumble alliances. MCOC will loses players on a daily basis as it is. If they put as much effort into fixing the game as they do fighting piloting, maybe things would get better.

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klobberintyme

INTEGRAL wrote: »

What if you fly from The USA to Australia or having a surgery? Will you leave your alliance during the flight?

Risk/reward. You get a ticket for jaywalking too, but there you are.

Webbdog

This will be the end of the game. kabam, you want ppl to live on this game, what you require, because you are greedy, is unrealistic. This is going to be the #1 thing that destroys the game. You need to rework the timers for war and Aq. Just greedy, I get account sharing sucks and is bad as I run a big alliance, but it’s because what you require, asks a lot from ppl. It’s a job for high alliances.

HeRBz3rK

Top alliances spend loads of money to stay at the top, they pilot to win SO I'm interested how they intend to keep getting money and uphold these conditions, esp if each player per ally is spending 1k+ units on AW to perform as well as buying EVERY deal offered. $600 X 30 a week per alliance. This should be interesting.

Sac123_

Are people actually defending account sharing?! I understand that everyone including me has a life, and that they can't always be online. But this is a game, and if you dont have the skills to play at the top level, you shouldn't play. This is a game as I said, and if you dont have the time, quit or move to a smaller alliance. If this gets all the top players banned, so be it, they must deserve it. I never thought I would see the day so many people defending account sharing......

rahul3038

@Kabam Miike Can you let us know more about the monitoring system. What does it consider? IP addresses/Mac addresses or a combination of both?

Plantesan

@Kabam Miike you guys need a better layout on what the tier of punishment you guys handout is.

You realize most of the f2p folk are entrenched deeply into the idea that you won’t touch your cashcows with a heavy hand, but will banhammer everyone else for the smallest offense.

Just a bit more transparency on the matter would be nice is all that’s meant to be understood as

Kabam Miike

Hey All,

Account Sharing is against our terms of service, and always has been. We understand that this might come as a shock to some players, but this is something that many players have been discussing since the beginning of Alliance Wars Season 1, if not long before. It is not fair to allow some players to break the Terms of Service, while others that are playing legitimately are at a disadvantage.

You are allowed to have more than one account, and as long as you are playing your own accounts, you do not have to worry. If you're not breaking the Terms of Service here, you shouldn't be worried.

WARICK99

There’s account sharing, or helping friend out once in a while, then there’s true piloting. Piloting is using one to a few players to run all 30 accounts in an alliance to fight in AW. Their best players log in and fight, severely increasing their odds of winning. A normal alliance just can’t compete with that. My alliance has lost wars to piloting. It’s pretty obvious when you see your opponents all move in succession in a one to two hour period. One account logs on and moves, then a few minutes another, and so on. It’s not super prevalent, but from what I’ve seen probably 20% of top alliances do it. Its been going on for a long time. It’s just REALLY annoying now with seasons implemented where it can really effect your rewards. Our alliance would probably have made platinum 2 this past season but we lost a few to piloting alliances the last 5 or 6 wars.

Rikurema

will-o-wisp wrote: »

1Marve1 wrote: »

What if you use multiple devices? how would that work? I go from tablet, to phone, to ipod, to another tablet lol....

Multiple devices and multiple accounts are allowed. You just can't play on an account that doesn't belong to you

Yes, but what I'm saying is how can they tell the difference between having multiple devices and account sharing?

Riegel

This is the best news to come to MCOC in very long time. I am very happy to see piloting was acknowledged, and that Kabam said they were going to take stricter actions to those that egregiously “pilot” or Account Share in Alliance Wars.

This is a very important part here. Kabam says egregiously “pilot” and in alliance wars. This could mean that in the occasional emergency situation account sharing wont have too harsh a punishment, if any at all, but that over doing in AW will result in harsher punishments (point removal, bans, etc.).

I hope they will also take into account those who account share for other areas as well such as: arena, legends titles, legends runs that reward large ticket items such as Thankos (act 5), etc. This is a huge victory for the integrity of AW, and I hope it will translate to the rest of the game

Kabam, honestly, thank you.

Micklownick

On a lighter note, I hope the guy who is banning people for account sharing is sitting next to the guy who is trying to increase spending....

"Wait, your gunna ban who?!? NOOOOOoooo!"

Kabam Miike

INTEGRAL wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey All,

Account Sharing is against our terms of service, and always has been. We understand that this might come as a shock to some players, but this is something that many players have been discussing since the beginning of Alliance Wars Season 1, if not long before. It is not fair to allow some players to break the Terms of Service, while others that are playing legitimately are at a disadvantage.

You are allowed to have more than one account, and as long as you are playing your own accounts, you do not have to worry. If you're not breaking the Terms of Service here, you shouldn't be worried.

Why dont you just ban the modder alliance sitting on the 7th rank first?

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